Vuelta a Espana Stage 9: Villacastín - Sierra de Bejar. La Covatilla 183,0 km

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The Hitch said:
Anyone with an idea where I can catch a replay of todays stage, or at least the mountain. Preferably something that can be downloaded or at least paused to load rather than a stream and preferably not in Dutch.

TeamSkyFans posted a link a few pages ago. It has the final mountain.
 
Oct 26, 2010
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virandociclista said:
so... last post about this assunt!

if was nibbles that atacked at the line after all the wiggles work.. will you agree with me?! :D
No:) He would have all the right to do so. He attacked earlier and then was caught. Besides he was fighting to stay in touch so he couldn't help either.

I get your point: the guy that works the most deserves to win. Theoretically I would agree, but when there are different ambitions, early moves and bonus on the line the situation is a bit different.
 
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TeamSkyFans said:

thanks for that. very nice to see it again!

oh, nibali is determined but just dragging in the end. wiggans and froome were strong and so were geox riders, cobo and menchov.

poor scarponi and anton :(

have to say it: go taaramae and mollema and especially dan martin! feisty racing by all of them. sounds like dan was robbed. Go dan, go!
 
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virandociclista said:
i'm new in the sport... I just watched the final of today's stage... and I did not see a great victory from Dan Martin..

If I was him.. I would feel bad for "wheelsuckink" wiggles all the way and sprint in the line... some from TGBM...

Maybe this is the culture of the sport and look like a normal and "great" win for the "inside" people... but for me.. this win is not a deserved one...

Wiggles was the real and true champion...

Hmm did you not see Martin's attack on the climb??pretty sure Martin was one of the first ones to attack? And to call Martin a wheel-sucker is plain ignorant, maybe if you watched the Tour of Poland you would have seen Martin attacking wherever he could...
 
May 25, 2010
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greatking88 said:
Hmm did you not see Martin's attack on the climb??pretty sure Martin was one of the first ones to attack? And to call Martin a wheel-sucker is plain ignorant, maybe if you watched the Tour of Poland you would have seen Martin attacking wherever he could...

Take it easy on the guy. Like he said he's new to cycling and I understand his way of thinking.
Riding hard on the front of a group pretty much destroys your chances of winning a stage. The reasons of pulling a group or peloton are:
-You got a very good sprinter in your team which can win a bunchsprint.
-You are dragging your teammate up a mountain for his GC.
-You are a GC rider and a lot of potention competitors for the GC have been dropped and you want to increase the gap on them.

There are more. Wiggins knew he wouldn't win when he was pulling the first group up the mountain, but he also knew he has by far the best TT of that group so losing some boniseconds at the finish won't hurt him.

Wiggins has a serious shot at getting the red jersey tomorrow.
 
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Having just watched the overhead of the finale again, Martin really opened up a huge gap. When Mollema jumped after him, the gap stopped growing briefly, but then it started going out again.
 
May 25, 2010
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Winterfold said:
Wiggo came of age as a GC rider today

Wiggins has been impressive this year. Dauphine was a very nice win and he looked really good at the TdF. It's unfortunate he had to drop out because of a broken collarbone. Now he didn't race anything before the Vuelta and he still performs great, but we've seen other riders doing that before in the past.
I'm really curious at what step of the podium he will be at the end of this Vuelta as somehow I'm pretty sure he will be on the podium.
 
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Kwibus said:
Take it easy on the guy. Like he said he's new to cycling and I understand his way of thinking.
Riding hard on the front of a group pretty much destroys your chances of winning a stage. The reasons of pulling a group or peloton are:
-You got a very good sprinter in your team which can win a bunchsprint.
-You are dragging your teammate up a mountain for his GC.
-You are a GC rider and a lot of potention competitors for the GC have been dropped and you want to increase the gap on them.

There are more. Wiggins knew he wouldn't win when he was pulling the first group up the mountain, but he also knew he has by far the best TT of that group so losing some boniseconds at the finish won't hurt him.

Wiggins has a serious shot at getting the red jersey tomorrow.

Yeah fair enough. But if anybody was watching that today, they saw Martin attacking and trying to go solo into a headwind. Then when he was caught with the final 2km he needed a brief rest and he took the sprint with so much ease. A perfectly deserving winner I would think..
 
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trevim said:
No:) He would have all the right to do so. He attacked earlier and then was caught. Besides he was fighting to stay in touch so he couldn't help either.

I get your point: the guy that works the most deserves to win. Theoretically I would agree, but when there are different ambitions, early moves and bonus on the line the situation is a bit different.

Not always....

I was thinking like a breakaway winning finish.... my fault!

thanks for the replies
 
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Kwibus said:
Wiggins has been impressive this year. Dauphine was a very nice win and he looked really good at the TdF. It's unfortunate he had to drop out because of a broken collarbone. Now he didn't race anything before the Vuelta and he still performs great, but we've seen other riders doing that before in the past.
I'm really curious at what step of the podium he will be at the end of this Vuelta as somehow I'm pretty sure he will be on the podium.

Yep all of those are good points but today he attacked grimpeurs on a mountain top finish and put the hurt on. At the Dauphine he defended a big lead, here he attacked from quite a way behind. Psychologically there is a huge difference which is why I think tomorrow is a different place for Brad even post Dauphine.

The gap to Scarponi is what impressed me above all. Sections of this climb were pretty steep - much more than you would get in France, except first few bends of Alpe or the middle of Ventoux.
 
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A most unexpected result. Big shock. Wiggins, Menchov and Mollema have now really announced thmeselves as possible Vuelta winners. Really wide open now.
 
Defensive riding by JVDB. I knew why, before he cracked. He knows he isn't 100% yet and he bluffed, jumped in the wheel of Scarponi and Nibali (i think). It almost paid off, but lost 19 seconds in the end. I expect him to improve the coming week(s), but he'll have to try to take more time on guys like Rodriguez and not lose too much time to guys like Nibali and Wiggins in the ITT. It's still not a bad result. Only half a minute down. The podium is certainly not out of reach.

Is Molllema a better ITT'er than JVDB? I didn't think so, but i hear he certainly not bad either.
 
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Just want to register how amused I was at Katusha drilling the lower slopes.

How often do we see Domestiques cooking their own teamleader.
 
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Brilliant result for Dan Martin! When he and Roche went away together I was screaming at the TV so loud, it's not often us Irish get something to shout about! And Dan's sprint at the end was very powerful, nobody was close. Also happy to see TGBM there just because he's TGBM!
 
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Very disapointing that Purito cracked but what Wiggins did is one of the most impressive things ive ever seen.

Some people will probably try to compare it to Evans at the tour but then Evans had to pull, he was the only rider who hadnt been screwed so no one else had any reason to work for him.

Here every single rider there was fighting for the gc and almost all had a higher gc ranking than Wiggins but he just pulled and dropped almost all of them amazing.

Reminiscent of Mosquera Andorra. Doesnt ask anyone to take a pull, no, does it all himself.

Chapeau.
 
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The Hitch said:
Some people will probably try to compare it to Evans at the tour but then Evans had to pull, he was the only rider who hadnt been screwed so no one else had any reason to work for him.

Here every single rider there was fighting for the gc and almost all had a higher gc ranking than Wiggins but he just pulled and dropped almost all of them amazing.

Chapeau.

So contador, sanchez, basso, vockler (more in particular team eurosport) werent riding for GC? they had to pull to stay in the GC race just like evans did. If Evans didnt chase it down andy would of won the tour. So i would compare it. Yes you could say wiggins didnt have to pull but he knows nibali is the main contender in this race and he could not lose more time to him. so in my opinion he had no choice. He had to do something. Cos even if he did sit there and let the other favourites do the work at the end of the day he would still be down time on nibali and the other contenders.

Amazing ride by wiggins tho, never thought he was capable of something like that. Always thought he would rely on his time trialing to win him a GT. Going to be interesting with the TT tonight. He should be able to gain some time on the favourites.
 
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Waterloo Sunrise said:
Just want to register how amused I was at Katusha drilling the lower slopes.

How often do we see Domestiques cooking their own teamleader.

Lampre too... well played guys.
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
Yea, Wiggins' drive was intense, but he did seem to run out of steam in the final km when everybody was still sitting on him, as the Menchov group were very close at the end, just came out of nowhere to be right with the leaders.

Taaramae had alot of energy, he got caught out when the Wiggins group went, he had the power tho. Every time we saw the Menchov, Kessiakoff group, Taaramäe was in the lead of it.
 
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So the guys who were looking really good in the past few days did quite average being Fuglsang, Rodriguez and Scarponi. What happened to those guys?

Good to see Menchov coming back to the front of the race and looking strong.

I seriously think that Wiggins has a good chance to win the overall along with Mollema.
 
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By looking at some stage footage, I am amazed at some of the comments by people comparing Wiggins' ride to Evans on the Galibier. Baffling.