Vuelta a San Juan 2023 (January 22-29)

[Cookster15]

Why are you guys even watching this race apart from the last 10 km of the mountain stage. This is god awful, and its pretty pointless to complain about the race not being that interesting after looking at the route.. every body and their goddamn mom and their dumbass neighbors would know that you cannot expect anything on a route like this

Why be so negative - its only January and you get to see a 2,600 meter mountain ridden even if its only 4%? It ain't all bad. I am interested to see how Bernal is going.

 

[LesDiablesRouges]

Why be so negative - its only January and you get to see a 2,600 meter mountain ridden even if its only 4%? It ain't all bad. I am interested to see how Bernal is going.

Because in the past this climb doesn't do much to seperate riders from one and another. For professionals it's very difficult to drop climbers on a 4.2% average gradient even if the altitude goes up 2600 meters.

 

[Cookster15]

Because in the past this climb doesn't do much to seperate riders from one and another. For professionals it's very difficult to drop climbers on a 4.2% average gradient even if the altitude goes up 2600 meters.

If this was March I'd agree. But its only January. Like I said I am interested to see what level Bernal is at. That's enough for me even if the route overall looks horrible on paper.

 

[Red Rick]

Why be so negative - its only January and you get to see a 2,600 meter mountain ridden even if its only 4%? It ain't all bad. I am interested to see how Bernal is going.

4% simply is not enough. They did Alto del Verjon in Colombia 2020 which goes up to 3200 and was 5.5% or something and it was basically 5 dudes easily following Bernal going all out

 

[Faserr]

Nice tailwind for them

 

[Lequack]

The shallow climb might mean that Superman Lopez will win, he has something to prove.

 

[Skijumper Roglic fan]

Today‘s MTF suits Ganna well… I think he could finish together with Bernal.

I think favourite is Evenepoel. He apparently is so good that he could finish with a nice gap (here: maybe 30 seconds) to the 2nd.

 

[Didinho]

Echelons!

 

[Tim Cahill]

Surely not full crosswinds in the San Juan? Seems like half the peloton just fell asleep and got caught lacking.

 

[carton]

Not-so-marginal gain having Ganna in front of Bernal. I always found it odd that Porte was in front of Froome all the time instead of Poels who as thin as he is was surely better draft fodder.

I don't think given those ramps Evenepoel can get away from the elite climbers. A better bet for me is someone like Fabio Duarte (or maybe Dani Martinez or Jan Hirt) that can win a la Anacona in 2019.

 

[Izzyeviel]

watch on youtube

 

[houtdffan]

what is this BS about Sagan winning today from the commentators?

 

[Escarabajo]

This is the type of climb where Vandenbroucke would destroy everyone!
Maybe Remco will do something like that.

 

[repre]

This is climb where TT specialist might do well, so Remco has to destroy everybody

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Why be so negative - its only January and you get to see a 2,600 meter mountain ridden even if its only 4%? It ain't all bad. I am interested to see how Bernal is going.

Because we used to have the Tour de San Luís in this slot. It wasn't an amazing race but it was just far superior to this, with better climbs and more variety. And even this race used to have the Punta Negra stage to at least have some time gaps rather than just being a bonus second fiesta until we get to this 4% up a highway. Or at least some hilariously blatant doper like Gonzalo Najár to enliven things.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Oh my god does Carlton still think Quintana retired, I don't think he's heard the news, talking about him like he's delivering an obituary.

 

[postmanhat]

First race I've watched this year and suffering from new kit blindness. Can only recognise Total and Astana from last year

 

[repre]

Because we used to have the Tour de San Luís in this slot. It wasn't an amazing race but it was just far superior to this, with better climbs and more variety. And even this race used to have the Punta Negra stage to at least have some time gaps rather than just being a bonus second fiesta until we get to this 4% up a highway. Or at least some hilariously blatant doper like Gonzalo Najár to enliven things.

Najar's performance was legendary though

 

[memyselfandI]

Top form Pozzovivo day this would be too.

 

[Samamba]

False flat till 2k from the finish.

 

[Samamba]

A 43y old dropping everyone

 

[Mayomaniac]

A 43y old dropping everyone

The future is now, let that young lion roar!

 

[Devil's Elbow]

The Medellin domestiques must have mixed feelings about Lopez joining the team right now.

 

[Tim Cahill]

We might yet get that aforementioned hilariously doped display we were all waiting for. Team MAL on the front, free from the clutches of any of that biopassport nonsense.

 

[repre]

Everybody talking about Ganna and Bernal and nobody about Martinez which is weird