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On the other hand, Sérgio Sousa and Javi Moreno managed to ride up to the bunch from being way back too, so...

good ride from Piamonte though. The cameras didn't really show anything that was happening behind. It was a miracle that we saw what we did! Disappointed in Santí. Very impressed with Alejandro Marque, who was behind Santí but ahead of Schumacher - he's normally an ITT specialist! Gorka Izagirre, far from a climber, had been in the lead group but held on to finish just after Báez.

Probably stage of the year so far.

Anyway, today, the break stuck, Victor Cabedo of the Orbea team leaving his break companions behind to come in solo ahead of Rory Sutherland and José Iván Gutiérrez. Looks like no change at the business end of the GC.
 
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Descender said:
Looks good this Cabedo lad.

Even Orbea are pulling a better season than Andalucia. :D
I heard commentators say that one of Andalucia's team cars ended today into a river. Nobody was seriously hurt, though.
 
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Last stage

As of this year, the Clásica Subida al Naranco dissapears as an independent 1-day race and becomes the last stage of the Vuelta.



The course has some differences wrt the tradicional course of the Clásica, the main one this wall 8kms before the final climb:

 
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Libertine Seguros said:
On the other hand, Sérgio Sousa and Javi Moreno managed to ride up to the bunch from being way back too, so...

good ride from Piamonte though. The cameras didn't really show anything that was happening behind. It was a miracle that we saw what we did! Disappointed in Santí. Very impressed with Alejandro Marque, who was behind Santí but ahead of Schumacher - he's normally an ITT specialist! Gorka Izagirre, far from a climber, had been in the lead group but held on to finish just after Báez.

Probably stage of the year so far.

Anyway, today, the break stuck, Victor Cabedo of the Orbea team leaving his break companions behind to come in solo ahead of Rory Sutherland and José Iván Gutiérrez. Looks like no change at the business end of the GC.
yeah but they had started their pursuit before the final climb(with piamonte I think). baez did in the last 5 km. very stupid tactics in hindsight. also because epm have no clue what riders are good in these races so it's one big guess usually, who to follow and how. they may know santi perez but other than that...
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
yeah but they had started their pursuit before the final climb(with piamonte I think). baez did in the last 5 km. very stupid tactics in hindsight. also because epm have no clue what riders are good in these races so it's one big guess usually, who to follow and how. they may know santi perez but other than that...
Sorry, but I can't believe they would be that ignorant.
Are you assuming this, or do you actually have proof? I'm very skeptical.
I mean, It is a ridiculous thought that a cycling team would have no idea of who the danger men are.
 
Ryo Hazuki said:
yeah but they had started their pursuit before the final climb(with piamonte I think). baez did in the last 5 km. very stupid tactics in hindsight. also because epm have no clue what riders are good in these races so it's one big guess usually, who to follow and how. they may know santi perez but other than that...
So what you're saying is, they should have done more research.

The weather was probably a factor yesterday, made it as much about who was strong enough to deal with the conditions as who was the best pure climber. I would never mark Gorka Izagirre down as a better climber than Santí Pérez, for example, but Gorka is good in dreadful weather owing to coming from a place known mostly for raining all the time and having a cyclocross background.
 
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Timmy-loves-Rabo said:
Sorry, but I can't believe they would be that ignorant.
Are you assuming this, or do you actually have proof? I'm very skeptical.
I mean, It is a ridiculous thought that a cycling team would have no idea of who the danger men are.
I've talked to a few riders and a friend of mine is more closer involved, he knows many of them. one time edward beltran was offered contract at geox and he asks a friend of mine is that team any good?? he tells him sastre rides there. Who?? sastre, he won the tour...

he had no idea, they only follow their own cycling. also you could see in races that epm and cep rode together they kept counter attacking each other because they hate each other and because they know what guys are dangerous from each others teams. of course they know a contador and armstrong but not much else.

also camilo suarez day before start of vuelta catalunya, friend tells him man must be great to be racing with contador, basso etc. he said are they racing there also?? he hadn't even bothered to check the startlist

during vuelta castilla y leon epm mechanic put wrong gears for the mountainstage because they had only looked to average of the climb while the hardest climb was very steep towards the end and where almost all of them dropped except baez, because they had very heavy gears and could barely stay on their bikes, you could see suarez moving left and right while contador flatted and had wasted all their energy there.

things like this is typically latin and should be solved within a few years at the most. but it's very typical and something a european like myself can really be shocked about
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
So what you're saying is, they should have done more research.

The weather was probably a factor yesterday, made it as much about who was strong enough to deal with the conditions as who was the best pure climber. I would never mark Gorka Izagirre down as a better climber than Santí Pérez, for example, but Gorka is good in dreadful weather owing to coming from a place known mostly for raining all the time and having a cyclocross background.
gorka izagirre was from the break with suarez, zaballa, broco etc. he wasn't better climber than santi who didn't follow that attack
 
Descender said:
He's not Basque though.
To continue from my post before, I dug up an interview with him here:
http://www.megustaelciclismo.com/entrevista-a-victor-cabedo/

He's been travelling from Onda (Comunidad Valenciana) to the Basque country to train and compete for several years now. He explains that as he is under the wing of the Fundación Euskadi, the foundation's aim is to prepare cyclists within the elite amateur team Naturgas Energia and the Continental team Orbea to make the step up to Euskaltel-Euskadi. His partner is Dorleta Zorrilla, a Basque cyclist who rides for the Bizkaia-Durango team (based in the Basque country and with some ties to the Fundación Euskadi, but not a fully Basque team), though she is inactive at the moment due to studying. His ambition is simply to finish the Tour de France, and his role model is Samuel Sánchez.
 
Descender said:
Looks good this Cabedo lad.

Even Orbea are pulling a better season than Andalucia. :D
Cabedo was the best junior in spain some years ago. Dominant in both climbs and especially in time trials. His u23 yeras was a bit dissapointing exept a few time trial results and he also did fairly well in the u23 1 dayraces last season, but with his showings this season he seems right back on track towards a great career. A complete and very talented rider indeed.
 
And we are live.

Your breakaways:

Gorka Izagirre (EUS), 11th @ 4'44"
Rafael Infantino (EPM), 16th @ 7'49"
Kirill Sveshnikov (RUS-NAT), 17th @ 7'50".

They are about 1'40" ahead of the main group. Filipe Cardoso (BEF) has just put himself into a chasse-patate. He's 44 minutes down so he's probably just stagehunting, and potentially giving a platform for Santí or Sérgio Sousa to attack later.
 
Libertine Seguros said:
And we are live.

Your breakaways:

Gorka Izagirre (EUS), 11th @ 4'44"
Rafael Infantino (EPM), 16th @ 7'49"
Kirill Sveshnikov (RUS-NAT), 17th @ 7'50".

They are about 1'40" ahead of the main group. Filipe Cardoso (BEF) has just put himself into a chasse-patate. He's 44 minutes down so he's probably just stagehunting, and potentially giving a platform for Santí or Sérgio Sousa to attack later.
Libertine, do you have the link of the live feed?

Thanks.
 

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