Vuelta Stage 21: Arroyomolinos → Madrid - 118km

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Contador lost 4th to Kelderman :surprised:

Contador doesn't care about 4th or 5th anyway. Neither does Wilco I think.

Wilco cares for minor placings, we all saw what he did at Angliru.

That was the podium...

Don't react to that :lol: that was an obvious bait

 

[TomLPC]

Froome will hang that one up proudly next to his 2014 dauphine points jersey

 

[El Pistolero]

Re: Re:

People, Pisti is just upset because Trentin is a QS rider. If he was a Belgian same reaction. If he was any other team or nationality, he would commend Froome. If Froome was a Belgian he would commend Froome. If Froome was part of a Belgian team he would commend Froome.

It's too predictable. Just laugh :lol:

*You* go on about someone for being nationalistic?
OK.

The strange thing is I'm absolutely not nationalistic. I would never cheer for boring riders like Jurgen Van Den Broeck or Stijn Devolder. DT meanwhile cheers for everything Dutch.

 

[Kwibus]

Re:

As I wrote earlier, I have always endured the Froome and Sky criticism here because I perfectly understand - and sometimes even feel - the frustration of the SkyBots choo-chooing.
But to criticize him for trying to win a major classification!!??
That's beyond ridiculous.

But it was obviously a one man opinion. Actually a lot of "sky haters" said it was ridiculous

 

[wwabbit]

Perhaps he wanted those UCI World Ranking points (100 for the green jersey)

 

[El Pistolero]

Re:

didn't vino steal 5th place from levi on the champs?

should lemond not have tried to win beat fignon in 1989 final ITT?

lol. the ceremonial last stage is bs the way it has become.

anyway the green jersey is supposed to recompense the most consistent rider - not the best sprinter (see Sagan, Kelly, Zabel, VanSpringel, etc...)

and if you love the vuelta for all its hilly stages, then the green jersey most likely should go to an all-rounder.

No, that's what the leader's jersey is for.

Green jersey in the Tour doesn't reward the most consistent rider, otherwise all stages would give equal points. The competition actually is not in Sagan's favour, he's just so good and talented that he wins it anyway.

The Vuelta Points Jersey is so flawed it becomes pointless.

 

[jsem94]

NO! *** Flecha.

 

[El Pistolero]

Contador lost 4th to Kelderman :surprised:

Contador doesn't care about 4th or 5th anyway. Neither does Wilco I think.

Wilco cares for minor placings, we all saw what he did at Angliru.

That was the podium...

Like I said, minor placings. Why did you quote me?

 

[Rollthedice]

Re:

NO! **** Flecha.

"What a stage!"

 

[StephenC2020]

I will admit that my initial reaction to Froome defending green today was biased by my feelings about him and Sky. He deserved it and of course it is good to see entertaining racing and riders fighting for the classifications. I still feel like this was one Sky could have let go but Froome won it fair and square.

 

[Big Doopie]

Re: Re:

didn't vino steal 5th place from levi on the champs?

should lemond not have tried to win beat fignon in 1989 final ITT?

lol. the ceremonial last stage is bs the way it has become.

anyway the green jersey is supposed to recompense the most consistent rider - not the best sprinter (see Sagan, Kelly, Zabel, VanSpringel, etc...)

and if you love the vuelta for all its hilly stages, then the green jersey most likely should go to an all-rounder.

No, that's what the leader's jersey is for.

Green jersey in the Tour doesn't reward the most consistent rider, otherwise all stages would give equal points. The competition actually is not in Sagan's favour, he's just so good and talented that he wins it anyway.

The Vuelta Points Jersey is so flawed it becomes pointless.

u r 100% wrong.

the points jersey is traditionally for the the rider who PLACES most consistently throughout the race. In that way it is different from the GC that is based on time.

again, see sagan, kelly, van springel, zabel...and many many others...NOT the best sprinters.

besides, has ANYONE EVER complained about sagan going with the break in the mountains to take the intermediate sprint points away from greipel, cavendish, kittel? NEVAH!

 

[TommyGun]

Re: Re:

NO! **** Flecha.

"What a stage!"

Flecha: "Alberto is saying goodbye to his family"

 

[Jagartrott]

It was that intermediate Froome took while everybody was napping in stage 3 (?) or so that got him the green jersey. I don't blame him for sprinting here, though the Sky meddling at the intermediate today was a bit over the top.

 

[Asturiano]

How beautiful to watch Contador doing the honor last tour with the Vuelta's song.

I don't know if you can watch it.

 

[Forever The Best]

Re: Re:

didn't vino steal 5th place from levi on the champs?

should lemond not have tried to win beat fignon in 1989 final ITT?

lol. the ceremonial last stage is bs the way it has become.

anyway the green jersey is supposed to recompense the most consistent rider - not the best sprinter (see Sagan, Kelly, Zabel, VanSpringel, etc...)

and if you love the vuelta for all its hilly stages, then the green jersey most likely should go to an all-rounder.

No, that's what the leader's jersey is for.

Green jersey in the Tour doesn't reward the most consistent rider, otherwise all stages would give equal points. The competition actually is not in Sagan's favour, he's just so good and talented that he wins it anyway.

The Vuelta Points Jersey is so flawed it becomes pointless.

Trentin was OTL yesterday...

 

[Winnen]

Re: Re:

didn't vino steal 5th place from levi on the champs?

should lemond not have tried to win beat fignon in 1989 final ITT?

lol. the ceremonial last stage is bs the way it has become.

anyway the green jersey is supposed to recompense the most consistent rider - not the best sprinter (see Sagan, Kelly, Zabel, VanSpringel, etc...)

and if you love the vuelta for all its hilly stages, then the green jersey most likely should go to an all-rounder.

No, that's what the leader's jersey is for.

Green jersey in the Tour doesn't reward the most consistent rider, otherwise all stages would give equal points. The competition actually is not in Sagan's favour, he's just so good and talented that he wins it anyway.

The Vuelta Points Jersey is so flawed it becomes pointless.

So if Trentin would have won the jersey it would be a great win, but if Froome wins it by the tiniest of margins the complete jersey is pointless?

Little bit overreacting?

 

[El Pistolero]

Re: Re:

didn't vino steal 5th place from levi on the champs?

should lemond not have tried to win beat fignon in 1989 final ITT?

lol. the ceremonial last stage is bs the way it has become.

anyway the green jersey is supposed to recompense the most consistent rider - not the best sprinter (see Sagan, Kelly, Zabel, VanSpringel, etc...)

and if you love the vuelta for all its hilly stages, then the green jersey most likely should go to an all-rounder.

No, that's what the leader's jersey is for.

Green jersey in the Tour doesn't reward the most consistent rider, otherwise all stages would give equal points. The competition actually is not in Sagan's favour, he's just so good and talented that he wins it anyway.

The Vuelta Points Jersey is so flawed it becomes pointless.

u r 100% wrong.

the points jersey is traditionally for the the rider who PLACES most consistently throughout the race. In that way it is different from the GC that is based on time.

again, see sagan, kelly, van springel, zabel...and many many others...NOT the best sprinters.

Then why doesn't it give equal points for every stage in the Tour?

As for traditions: blindly following ancient traditions and customs does not mean the dead are alive, but that the living are dead.

I love that quote, I can use it in so many situations to back up my argument.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re: Re:

NO! **** Flecha.

"What a stage!"

Flecha: "Alberto is saying goodbye to his family"

:lol:

 

[Bardamu]

Re: Re:

didn't vino steal 5th place from levi on the champs?

should lemond not have tried to win beat fignon in 1989 final ITT?

lol. the ceremonial last stage is bs the way it has become.

anyway the green jersey is supposed to recompense the most consistent rider - not the best sprinter (see Sagan, Kelly, Zabel, VanSpringel, etc...)

and if you love the vuelta for all its hilly stages, then the green jersey most likely should go to an all-rounder.

No, that's what the leader's jersey is for.

Green jersey in the Tour doesn't reward the most consistent rider, otherwise all stages would give equal points. The competition actually is not in Sagan's favour, he's just so good and talented that he wins it anyway.

The Vuelta Points Jersey is so flawed it becomes pointless.

u r 100% wrong.

the points jersey is traditionally for the the rider who PLACES most consistently throughout the race. In that way it is different from the GC that is based on time.

again, see sagan, kelly, van springel, zabel...and many many others...NOT the best sprinters.

You expect that Pistolero watched cycling before Tommeke?

 

[Alexandre B.]

Team Sky wore a leader's jersey in the Tour/Vuelta for 38 days out of 42.

 

[TMP402]

Trentin (as accurately as I can remember): "[Froome] told me he was defending it, and he made it... winning four stages but not the jersey is kind of a joke, but I will survive".

 

[bigcog]

Re:

I will admit that my initial reaction to Froome defending green today was biased by my feelings about him and Sky. He deserved it and of course it is good to see entertaining racing and riders fighting for the classifications. I still feel like this was one Sky could have let go but Froome won it fair and square.

Yeah I'm not sure about it tbh.

 

[Frankschleck]

Imagine if trentin hadn't given that stage to lampaerts

 

[PremierAndrew]

dont feed the troll

 

[Jagartrott]

Re:

Team Sky wore a leader's jersey in the Tour/Vuelta for 38 days out of 42.

Not good for neutral fans.