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Alpe d'Huez said:
The sport badly, badly needs to move beyond Lance, and Landis as well. We still have plenty of doping and corruption problems, but neither of these guys are the future of cycling. They're part of the past. A past I think a lot of us would like to see fade away as soon as possible.

Well said Alpe. I was thinking about this last week after the Landis-Kimmage transcript came out. With all the context that it gave on Floyd's character, it seems like he's gonna get out of the spotlight now, at least if his 'this is the last time in a long time I'm gonna talk about the first 35 years of my life' comment is as meaningful as it seemed. And his weird retirement and then next-day 'let's allow dope' proclamation was also contextualized, and seemed to indicate that he realized that he just needs to get away from the media for awhile. So I'm hopeful for that, the Kimmage transcript seemed like a cathartic bookend, and Landis doesn't seem to be a publicity seeker to me.

As far as Armstrong, he's obviously the opposite, but I think you're right - there's nothing new to say right now, obviously the SI article and Landis transcript were fairly large, new developments, and whenever a verdict gets handed down or a new article comes out then this place will be nuts, but he's gone. I feel, and hope, this 'phase' will calm down and we can talk about the other interesting aspects of the sport, and doping within the sport, other than Armstrong. Just wait until somebody blows away the field at MSR with an attack and somebody starts the 'what's he on' thread. Can't wait for the season to start...
 
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Alpe d'Huez said:
The sport badly, badly needs to move beyond Lance, and Landis as well. We still have plenty of doping and corruption problems, but neither of these guys are the future of cycling. They're part of the past. A past I think a lot of us would like to see fade away as soon as possible.
Doping didn't start with these guys. It's not going to end with them either.

This sport is just flat out dirty. It's popularity will ebb and flow (in different parts of the globe) based on the mass-market appeal of its winners. From this standpoint, Armstrong was the pinnacle. When people try to duplicate his path, his story, they look stupid trying. He beat cancer. He won the Tour seven times. We'll never see anything like that again.

People, get used to it. From a popularity standpoint, for this sport, it's only downhill from here... unless a China man wins the Tour.
 

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HelmutRoole said:
Doping didn't start with these guys. It's not going to end with them either.

This sport is just flat out dirty. It's popularity will ebb and flow (in different parts of the globe) based on the mass-market appeal of its winners. From this standpoint, Armstrong was the pinnacle. When people try to duplicate his path, his story, they look stupid trying. He beat cancer. He won the Tour seven times. We'll never see anything like that again.

People, get used to it. From a popularity standpoint, for this sport, it's only downhill from here... unless a China man wins the Tour.

I agree. As far as Lance was, going backwards in time as John Lyndon sings,

"Better days will never be" Even the haters here miss my Herr Lance.

A beautiful period in cycling. It will only get better if we make guys carry tubulars wrapped around their shoulders, riding the Alps with their silca pumps and aluminum bindons hanging from their bars on gravel passes, no helmets wearing goggles.
 
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flicker said:
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A beautiful period in cycling...
From a Tour de France standpoint it's been fairly boring. I'm by no means of fan of Armstrong. I don't even like his pedal motion.

But I am a fan of reality and the reality is, we'll never see anything like that again in cycling.
 

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HelmutRoole said:
From a Tour de France standpoint it's been fairly boring. I'm by no means of fan of Armstrong. I don't even like his pedal motion.

But I am a fan of reality and the reality is, we'll never see anything like that again in cycling.

I was always there to root against Herr Armstrong. I would even want to see Levi beat Armstrong. Seeing Kelme against Armstrong was awesome. I also love the demoralized Iban Mayo getting off his bike and then being forced back on by his team mate, precious moments. Also special tour moments Vino, Tyler H. Doped but epic. Also in the sadness catagory Ulle crashingin the TT.
Drama.
 

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Neworld said:
Hey, if one narcissistically tweets daily about his athleticism, wins the TdF 7 times in a row, makes money off commercials, web sites and oncology patients one should be prepared to be scrutinized heavily.

Live by the sword...

NW

I believe the expression is:
"Live by the sword, Die by the sword"

NOT
"Live by the sword, Die by haters obsessing over your twitter tweets"
 

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Polish said:
I believe the expression is:
"Live by the sword, Die by the sword"

NOT
"Live by the sword, Die by haters obsessing over your twitter tweets"

I disagree, todays LANCETWEETING has sealed Lances fate with the LANCEHATERTWEET FOLLOWERS.
 
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flicker said:
I disagree, todays LANCETWEETING has sealed Lances fate with the LANCEHATERTWEET FOLLOWERS.

Powerful comments by 2 of the most ubiquitous, irrelevant, posters on CN (Polish / Flicker). Nothing short of useless. Thank you, keep the comedy (you) alive.

NW