We need a "maillot rouge sang" for the clinic for biggest doper

[Moose McKnuckles]

We should award a clinic jersey for the biggest apparent doper who has not been caught in the current year.

For the past year, I'd rate the contenders as:

1. Froome
2. Wiggins
3. Purito
4. Boonen
5. Contador

Team award: Team Sky
Most aggressive doper: Wiggins

 

[Ferminal]

Terpstra
Voeckler
Rogers

 

[palmerq]

I think we shouldn't :S it cheapens the clinic sub forum.. pretty much it is just accusation being thrown at people who do well and that are not well liked here :S... would be better if there was actually evidence but whatever carry on with your slanderous quest !

 

[thehog]

Riche Porte.

 

[The Hitch]

I think we shouldn't :S it cheapens the clinic sub forum.. pretty much it is just accusation being thrown at people who do well and that are not well liked here :S... would be better if there was actually evidence but whatever carry on with your slanderous quest !

dont see whats wrong with it

Especially if posters expalin why they think those riders should be in those positions.

For me the biggest apparent doper (not been caught) would probably be

1 samuel Sanchez Gonzalez. this is not just for the idiotic thing he said about Lance but also for the fervent defense of Contador last year where he didnt even bother denying contador doped, just said that Contador should be allowed to race.

2 Wiggins - 134th in the tour to 4th when he met lance. Need i say more? Also for going back on everything he had said in his anti doping mode, swearing at a reporter for daring to ask a question (while he himself has no trouble accusing others), Spending the first 7 months of this year citing Lance and USPS as an inspiration, then conveniently claiming he is against everything they stand for once the **** hit the fan

3 Phil Gil. - im taking into account his 2011 season, the fact that he has the records for the ardennes climbs, and his close friendship with Vino

4 Nibali - Bassos best friend moves to Astana to work with Vino and Martinelli. Says Lance did nothing wrong.
New generation is clean my ***

5 Turgot. Dont know exactly how the whereabouts thing is going to go and maybe he has been caught though i dont know. Anyway Could have chosen anyone from Europcar which has had its fair share suspicion but Turgot 2nd in Pr was a surprise and then he misses the test. hmmm

Team award - Astana - Not only do they not try to hide it but their ardennes campaign was as much lol as sky tdf and opqs cobbles. And yes i do get that MI is a quality 1 day rider

Most aggressive doper- Nibali. Or Voeckler. (contador but he has failed a test)

 

[palmerq]

well im not going to stop you :S but to post stuff like this with no evidence in my opinion is ridiculous and pretty low ... just my thoughts... I dont see how you can in good conscience pretty much flat out accuse and slander people in this way... but whatever go for it !

dont see whats wrong with it

Especially if posters expalin why they think those riders should be in those positions.

For me the biggest apparent doper (not been caught) would probably be

1 samuel Sanchez Gonzalez. this is not just for the idiotic thing he said about Lance but also for the fervent defense of Contador last year where he didnt even bother denying contador doped, just said that Contador should be allowed to race.

2 Wiggins - 134th in the tour to 4th when he met lance. Need i say more? Also for going back on everything he had said in his anti doping mode, swearing at a reporter for daring to ask a question (while he himself has no trouble accusing others), Spending the first 7 months of this year citing Lance and USPS as an inspiration, then conveniently claiming he is against everything they stand for once the **** hit the fan

3 Phil Gil. - im taking into account his 2011 season, the fact that he has the records for the ardennes climbs, and his close friendship with Vino

4 Nibali - Bassos best friend moves to Astana to work with Vino and Martinelli. Says Lance did nothing wrong.
New generation is clean my ***

5 Turgot. Dont know exactly how the whereabouts thing is going to go and maybe he has been caught though i dont know. Anyway Could have chosen anyone from Europcar which has had its fair share suspicion but Turgot 2nd in Pr was a surprise and then he misses the test. hmmm

Team award - Astana - Not only do they not try to hide it but their ardennes campaign was as much lol as sky tdf and opqs cobbles. And yes i do get that MI is a quality 1 day rider

Most aggressive doper- Nibali. Or Voeckler. (contador but he has failed a test)

 

[thehog]

2 Wiggins - 134th in the tour to 4th when he met lance. Need i say more? Also for going back on everything he had said in his anti doping mode, swearing at a reporter for daring to ask a question (while he himself has no trouble accusing others), Spending the first 7 months of this year citing Lance and USPS as an inspiration, then conveniently claiming he is against everything they stand for once the **** hit the fan

This +100.

He also went into blame the French mode then said himself is clean because there's no more long breakaways like Virenque conveniently skipping the Armstrong years (this is before USADA).

 

[skidmark]

not caught this year, eh? I'd say:

Bjarne Riis
Marco Pantani
Ricardo Ricco
Gert-Jan Theunisse
Raimondas Rumsas

 

[ultimobici]

This +100.

He also went into blame the French mode then said himself is clean because there's no more long breakaways like Virenque conveniently skipping the Armstrong years (this is before USADA).

Had it been after the decision you'd have a point. Before the decision it would have been career suicide if Armstrong had managed to beat the rap (yet again). More to the point, Armstrong never made long lone breaks so would have been a pointless example.

 

[proffate]

not been caught in the current year.

Valverde? Is there really anyone in the world who would make a case that Valverde rode a clean Vuelta?

 

[Grandillusion]

well im not going to stop you :S but to post stuff like this with no evidence in my opinion is ridiculous and pretty low ... just my thoughts... I dont see how you can in good conscience pretty much flat out accuse and slander people in this way... but whatever go for it !

You don't get it either do you?

All of these posters are way more culpable for the current crisis in your sport than the people they're pretending to criticize.

Positively 4th Street .

And you weren't too impressive either savaging that poor first time poster a week or two back.

Look in the mirror the lot of you.

 

[L'arriviste]

In 2012, it has to be Michele Ferrari, although this is based on the revelation of retrospective data. On pure 2012 data, i.e. speculation on performances together with a single appreciable candidate, it's probably Ibarguren.

Focusing on riders is daft - this jersey competition should be totally dominated by doctors.

 

[airstream]

1. Contador, Valverde, Purito. Apparently, straight before the Vuelta chineses embeded some new molecule into good old Edgar so that it became undetectable. Or organizers carefully warned trinity about letting hit hematocrit up to 60 like in the 90s. Froome severely sucked with his outdated microdosing.
2. Wiggins, Froome.
3. Rolland, Pinot.

 

[sniper]

Spending the first 7 months of this year citing Lance and USPS as an inspiration, then conveniently claiming he is against everything they stand for once the **** hit the fan

The USADA file brought things to the fore that were impossible to see beforehand. How could Wiggo have known? Lance fooled everybody.

 

[peterst6906]

Lance fooled everybody.

Really?

If people outside the peleton could see it as far back as '99 (and some insiders even before that), then I have to wonder.

 

[Grandillusion]

1. Contador, Valverde, Purito. Apparently, straight before the Vuelta chineses embeded some new molecule into good old Edgar so that it became undetectable. Or organizers carefully warned trinity about letting hit hematocrit up to 60 like in the 90s. Froome severely sucked with his outdated microdosing.
2. Wiggins, Froome.
3. Rolland, Pinot.

From an outsider's perspective, it's like watching a huge grinning yellow tapeworm. And the deceased, chain-smoking professional contrarian is almost as repulsive.

 

[airstream]

lol, honestly, i know a few words and firstly somehow i thought you were saying about traffic light, having a look at my post. But googletranslate amazed me.

 

[Grandillusion]

Yep, it's a bit extreme, but the point I'm making is there's a HUGE battle for the soul of your sport going on, and you seem to be utterly oblivious. It's pretty incredible for an outsider like myself to witness this.

All the "fans" like yourself who aren't fighting, at this critical time, appear parasitic (parasites are harmful to their host, maybe even kill it in the end).

Your "host" is your own sport.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Yep, it's a bit extreme, but the point I'm making is there's a HUGE battle for the soul of your sport going on, and you seem to be utterly oblivious. It's pretty incredible for an outsider like myself to witness this.

All the "fans" like yourself who aren't fighting, at this critical time, appear parasitic (parasites are harmful to their host, maybe even kill it in the end).

Your "host" is your own sport.

What is your sport?

 

[sniper]

Really?

If people outside the peleton could see it as far back as '99 (and some insiders even before that), then I have to wonder.

i was being sarcastic of course.
it's the BS excuse they (the riders) keep on using.

 

[taiwan]

Yep, it's a bit extreme, but the point I'm making is there's a HUGE battle for the soul of your sport going on, and you seem to be utterly oblivious. It's pretty incredible for an outsider like myself to witness this.

All the "fans" like yourself who aren't fighting, at this critical time, appear parasitic (parasites are harmful to their host, maybe even kill it in the end).

Your "host" is your own sport.

Denial seems to be the preferred technique for you. So just say "what clinic " parasites eliminated

The underside of your carpet must be fairly busy place

 

[frenchfry]

1. Contador, Valverde, Purito. Apparently, straight before the Vuelta chineses embeded some new molecule into good old Edgar so that it became undetectable. Or organizers carefully warned trinity about letting hit hematocrit up to 60 like in the 90s. Froome severely sucked with his outdated microdosing.
2. Wiggins, Froome.
3. Rolland, Pinot.

Here is a article on Pinot that I saw just after seeing his name cited in your post as a candidate for top doper.

http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme-sur-route/Actualites/Pinot-j-aimerais-bien-dominer/327916

A quote from him:

«Si je peux les battre [des coureurs dopés], je peux aussi battre tous les autres.» «J'aimerais bien dominer...»
(If I can beat them (doped riders), I can also beat all the others. I would like to dominate...)

 

[Grandillusion]

What is your sport?

Stay on topic or get lost mate... you're not off the hook either.

 

[Grandillusion]

Denial seems to be the preferred technique for you. So just say "what clinic " parasites eliminated

The underside of your carpet must be fairly busy place

A totally incoherent post. You'll have to re-phrase then I may be able to respond.

 

[taiwan]

A totally incoherent post. You'll have to re-phrase then I may be able to respond.

Well you're happy to deny the plausibility (and IMO probability) of the accusations made in here - why not also deny that the thread itself exists and you have no problem. Comprende?