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Roubaix>RVV>Liège>Sanremo>Lombardia for prestige, I think.
Lombardia>Liège>RVV>Roubaix>Sanremo for my opinion.
Lombardia>Liège>RVV>Roubaix>Sanremo for my opinion.
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ak-zaaf said:
You'd still end up with more people saying Vlaanderen is the most prestigious then.
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El Pistolero said:Care to explain?
Simple really - those are the races in the order of my personal preference. Hence the list of what I think is the general prestige perception, then the list of my personal view.
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Roubaix by a couple of clear bike lengths from the Ronde.
MSR a length further back.
LBL a distant 4th and GdL struggling to make the time limit.
MSR a length further back.
LBL a distant 4th and GdL struggling to make the time limit.
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Libertine Seguros said:
Yes, but why do you think that I mean. Not a lot of people share that opinion.
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Lombardia has beautiful views, a great profile that really challenges, plus as it's late in the season it combines the moroseness of being the end of the genuine racing season with the hopeful look forward as often a lot of big names shut up their season after the Worlds so we get to see some young stars breaking through.
L-B-L has lots of ankle-biting short climbs that I really enjoy, and a great finale. It's also one of the least predictable, with the winner coming in several different ways in the last few years.
RVV has amazing atmosphere, and steep cobbled climbs that I enjoy. I often find the finale a bit of an anticlimax on the route (not this year though!!!), however.
Roubaix has the thrill of the cobbles, and the rough, dusty/muddy trails. It often feels like more of a lottery than the other monuments, however, which disappoints me, plus I prefer the challenge of the cobbled bergs to the flat but rough cobblestones.
Milan-San Remo has beautiful scenery but all too often can get predictable. This year's was the most exciting in years. It's also the monument most likely to come down to bunch sprints, and as you of course know I am the biggest fan of bunch sprints in the known universe.
L-B-L has lots of ankle-biting short climbs that I really enjoy, and a great finale. It's also one of the least predictable, with the winner coming in several different ways in the last few years.
RVV has amazing atmosphere, and steep cobbled climbs that I enjoy. I often find the finale a bit of an anticlimax on the route (not this year though!!!), however.
Roubaix has the thrill of the cobbles, and the rough, dusty/muddy trails. It often feels like more of a lottery than the other monuments, however, which disappoints me, plus I prefer the challenge of the cobbled bergs to the flat but rough cobblestones.
Milan-San Remo has beautiful scenery but all too often can get predictable. This year's was the most exciting in years. It's also the monument most likely to come down to bunch sprints, and as you of course know I am the biggest fan of bunch sprints in the known universe.
Paris-Roubaix is not more of a lottery than any other race. Quite on the contrary, actually. The best are usually in front.
Prestige suggests history. Hence, in my opinion, it should be as followed:
1 Paris Roubaix: Queen of the classic. The one that every legend wanted to have in their palmarès until 1990's specializing and EPO era.
2 Milan Sanremo: Classicissima for the Italians. Great palmarès. Quite a unique race. Legendary 7-win record by Merckx. The race has been stolen by sprinters but only in recent years and I still can't understand how they could manage it.
3 Tour of Lombardy: Perhaps not considered prestigious here in the North because it's in autumn. Hard route now but has changed it too often in its history (the 1985 edition sucked all the way!)
4 Tour of Flanders: Prestigious because related to the myth of the Flandrians. But too easy - mostly in the old days before the Koppenberg was added - to be considered a prestigious classic. The poorest palmarès of the four, whatever Descender might think.
5 Liège Bastogne Liège: hard route and the oldest of all but the first editions had a fairly local field up until the 50's and even then the Arrow or Paris-Brussels had a better field. Liège is a top classic only since the Merckx era, when Paris-Brussels was temp scrapped. In terms of hardness, I'd rank it much higher.
Prestige suggests history. Hence, in my opinion, it should be as followed:
1 Paris Roubaix: Queen of the classic. The one that every legend wanted to have in their palmarès until 1990's specializing and EPO era.
2 Milan Sanremo: Classicissima for the Italians. Great palmarès. Quite a unique race. Legendary 7-win record by Merckx. The race has been stolen by sprinters but only in recent years and I still can't understand how they could manage it.
3 Tour of Lombardy: Perhaps not considered prestigious here in the North because it's in autumn. Hard route now but has changed it too often in its history (the 1985 edition sucked all the way!)
4 Tour of Flanders: Prestigious because related to the myth of the Flandrians. But too easy - mostly in the old days before the Koppenberg was added - to be considered a prestigious classic. The poorest palmarès of the four, whatever Descender might think.
5 Liège Bastogne Liège: hard route and the oldest of all but the first editions had a fairly local field up until the 50's and even then the Arrow or Paris-Brussels had a better field. Liège is a top classic only since the Merckx era, when Paris-Brussels was temp scrapped. In terms of hardness, I'd rank it much higher.
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Echoes said:Paris-Roubaix is not more of a lottery than any other race. Quite on the contrary, actually. The best are usually in front.
Prestige suggests history. Hence, in my opinion, it should be as followed:
1 Paris Roubaix: Queen of the classic. The one that every legend wanted to have in their palmarès until 1990's specializing and EPO era.
2 Milan Sanremo: Classicissima for the Italians. Great palmarès. Quite a unique race. Legendary 7-win record by Merckx. The race has been stolen by sprinters but only in recent years and I still can't understand how they could manage it.
3 Tour of Lombardy: Perhaps not considered prestigious here in the North because it's in autumn. Hard route now but has changed it too often in its history (the 1985 edition sucked all the way!)
4 Tour of Flanders: Prestigious because related to the myth of the Flandrians. But too easy - mostly in the old days before the Koppenberg was added - to be considered a prestigious classic. The poorest palmarès of the four, whatever Descender might think.
5 Liège Bastogne Liège: hard route and the oldest of all but the first editions had a fairly local field up until the 50's and even then the Arrow or Paris-Brussels had a better field. Liège is a top classic only since the Merckx era, when Paris-Brussels was temp scrapped. In terms of hardness, I'd rank it much higher.
I can't see how the LBL is the least prestigious at this point in time. I'd say:
PR
LBL
Flanders
Lombardy
MSR
In terms of overall prestige among the cycling world right now.
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Echoes said:Paris-Roubaix is not more of a lottery than any other race. Quite on the contrary, actually. The best are usually in front.
Prestige suggests history. Hence, in my opinion, it should be as followed:
1 Paris Roubaix: Queen of the classic. The one that every legend wanted to have in their palmarès until 1990's specializing and EPO era.
2 Milan Sanremo: Classicissima for the Italians. Great palmarès. Quite a unique race. Legendary 7-win record by Merckx. The race has been stolen by sprinters but only in recent years and I still can't understand how they could manage it.
3 Tour of Lombardy: Perhaps not considered prestigious here in the North because it's in autumn. Hard route now but has changed it too often in its history (the 1985 edition sucked all the way!)
4 Tour of Flanders: Prestigious because related to the myth of the Flandrians. But too easy - mostly in the old days before the Koppenberg was added - to be considered a prestigious classic. The poorest palmarès of the four, whatever Descender might think.
5 Liège Bastogne Liège: hard route and the oldest of all but the first editions had a fairly local field up until the 50's and even then the Arrow or Paris-Brussels had a better field. Liège is a top classic only since the Merckx era, when Paris-Brussels was temp scrapped. In terms of hardness, I'd rank it much higher.
You are seeking for some attention or what ?
You might perhaps get a chance to sort it out.
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boomcie said:I really don't care about football. Except for the worlds.
Why do you think I'm here?
sorry even tho cycling is my favourite sport, i still love football. if people didn't have this "i love this 1 sport and hate all the rest" attitude some sports (cycling included) would prolly have a lot more fans.
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Alright, for the moment it looks like the following tendencies have come forward:
1) Roubaix is the most prestigious.
2) The sample completing the survey is probably not representative, with a pretty large northern bias.
3) I am quite sure though that LBL is more prestigious than it's Italian counterpart GdL.
4) RVV is probably blown out of proportion the most in the votes, because of it's strong local backing.
1) Roubaix is the most prestigious.
2) The sample completing the survey is probably not representative, with a pretty large northern bias.
3) I am quite sure though that LBL is more prestigious than it's Italian counterpart GdL.
4) RVV is probably blown out of proportion the most in the votes, because of it's strong local backing.
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