Which one is the best race: Tirreno-Adriatico or Paris Nice?

[lukinox]

Considering the level of participants from the past two years, I think Tirreno-Adriatico has really become the best of the two.
What's your opinion?

 

[Fetisoff]

Considering the level of participants from the past two years, I think Tirreno-Adriatico has really become the best of the two.
What's your opinion?

I think Giro is the best race

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Tirreno, allways some cool uphill finishes

 

[lukinox]

I think Giro is the best race

Thanks Fetisoff for trying to veer my first ever thread off topic.
(I agree with you that the Giro is great, by the way)

 

[Fetisoff]

Thanks Fetisoff for trying to veer my first ever thread off topic.
(I agree with you that the Giro is great, by the way)

Nah, I was just trying for you to insert a poll into this thread, which I see you've now done.

 

[spalco]

Paris-Nice, reason being that it's the first.

 

[Havetts]

With poop parcourses like this and last year's P-N, Tirreno by far.

 

[jens_attacks]

tirreno but that's because i love more the italian races
paris-nice is of course awesome too also this year.

 

[airstream]

Honestly i don't like both, that's why i would prefer the race with harder climbs. A couple of years ago PN included stump of Mont Ventoux. As I see, Tirreno has only Monte Lupone, right?

 

[Dazed and Confused]

After stage 2 of P-N, I think the Frogs will hold the upper hand this year.

 

[Fetisoff]

After stage 2 of P-N, I think the Frogs will hold the upper hand this year.

That's the one reason I haven't voted in the poll yet. I mean last year T-A was obviously a better race, this year's parcours looks great, especially stage 4, however after today's P-N stage, I might have even voted for it. So I will wait to vote instead.

 

[Fetisoff]

Honestly i don't like both, that's why i would prefer the race with harder climbs. A couple of years ago PN included stump of Mont Ventoux. As I see, Tirreno has only Monte Lupone, right?

Is there any one-week race you like then?

 

[cineteq]

Honestly i don't like both, that's why i would prefer the race with harder climbs. A couple of years ago PN included stump of Mont Ventoux. As I see, Tirreno has only Monte Lupone, right?

For some reason, I think you also like LBL

 

[airstream]

Is there any one-week race you like then?

no, but i have a slight indulgence to dauphine. or rather, i dont like them very much.

 

[Kwibus]

Depends on the course.

Not going to vote on this one. Both are good races and it looks like T-A will be better this year again, but next year P-N might be better again.

 

[Cogombre]

This year, on paper (read, the route) Tirreno is the better race, imo. But P-N just started and the stage which was bound to be the dullest turned out to be pretty cool, so hard to know. And participation wise there's not much difference, so I won't vote just yet.

If we're talking about prestige, P-N > T-A, in my opinion.

 

[Eshnar]

Honestly i don't like both, that's why i would prefer the race with harder climbs. A couple of years ago PN included stump of Mont Ventoux. As I see, Tirreno has only Monte Lupone, right?

Passo Lanciano is no joke actually. Saying that TA has only Montelupone is a bit of disrespect. The focus on short and steep climb of TA is a recent thing anyway, and it's not by any means a rule; for istance it included Monte Bondone once (many years ago)

 

[Libertine Seguros]

With poop parcourses like this and last year's P-N, Tirreno by far.

This. Paris-Nice had been in a run of great races, then 2011 killed all the momentum it had with a godawful parcours.

Honestly i don't like both, that's why i would prefer the race with harder climbs. A couple of years ago PN included stump of Mont Ventoux. As I see, Tirreno has only Monte Lupone, right?

No Montelupone this year. But there are some really nasty rises into Chieti, Macerata etc. that they can - and do - include, not just Montelupone (though I admit that is the greatest of them). Lots of short, steep ramps in Tirreno. Lots of them.

After stage 2 of P-N, I think the Frogs will hold the upper hand this year.

Not so fast though; last year, the early stages of Paris-Nice were good too, with Voeckler and de Gendt going haywire. Then the "hilly" stages disappointed and the TT settled everything.

This year, on paper (read, the route) Tirreno is the better race, imo. But P-N just started and the stage which was bound to be the dullest turned out to be pretty cool, so hard to know. And participation wise there's not much difference, so I won't vote just yet.

If we're talking about prestige, P-N > T-A, in my opinion.

Prestige-wise, I'd agree. But at the moment, Paris-Nice has lost its momentum for putting on good races after last year's snoozer, while Tirreno-Adriatico is in a strong run; the days of Cancellara and Freire's GC wins are forgotten, and the last 3 editions have been mighty entertaining.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Not so fast though; last year, the early stages of Paris-Nice were good too, with Voeckler and de Gendt going haywire. Then the "hilly" stages disappointed and the TT settled everything.

right, but the race today completely open up business. Very different from last year. Of course things could turn out to be a controlled event from now on. Hoping Valverde/Movistar will keep the pressure on and that other "losers" will do something in the next few stages.

 

[Andy99]

P-N from an armchair viewers perspective purely because of the quality of TV coverage.

Italian stuff is always shaky and grainy and never in HD.

 

[Red Rick]

Tirreno, because the PN sucked in the last year and will suck this year.
Why is TGBM not an option?

 

[Froome19]

no, but i have a slight indulgence to dauphine. or rather, i dont like them very much.

Suprised you dont like ATOC a bit.
After this year I doubt you will like the dauphine much any more.

 

[ferryman]

After stage 2 of P-N, I think the Frogs will hold the upper hand this year.

Upper hand against the.....

 

[DominicDecoco]

The impressive lineup in P-N compared to previous years should add up.

I normally fancy T-A course more though.

 

[skidmark]

I have found that it varies from year to year, as Libertine was saying. On the balance of all time history, if I had to choose one it'd be Paris-Nice. If you're talking about, say, the last 2 years or last year, I'd say T-A. If you're taking about this year's parcours, I like both to a certain degree but I think I like P-N better.