Considering the level of participants from the past two years, I think Tirreno-Adriatico has really become the best of the two.
What's your opinion?
What's your opinion?
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lukinox said:Considering the level of participants from the past two years, I think Tirreno-Adriatico has really become the best of the two.
What's your opinion?
Fetisoff said:I think Giro is the best race
lukinox said:Thanks Fetisoff for trying to veer my first ever thread off topic.
(I agree with you that the Giro is great, by the way)
Dazed and Confused said:After stage 2 of P-N, I think the Frogs will hold the upper hand this year.
airstream said:Honestly i don't like both, that's why i would prefer the race with harder climbs. A couple of years ago PN included stump of Mont Ventoux. As I see, Tirreno has only Monte Lupone, right?
For some reason, I think you also like LBLairstream said:Honestly i don't like both, that's why i would prefer the race with harder climbs. A couple of years ago PN included stump of Mont Ventoux. As I see, Tirreno has only Monte Lupone, right?
Fetisoff said:Is there any one-week race you like then?
Passo Lanciano is no joke actually. Saying that TA has only Montelupone is a bit of disrespect. The focus on short and steep climb of TA is a recent thing anyway, and it's not by any means a rule; for istance it included Monte Bondone once (many years ago)airstream said:Honestly i don't like both, that's why i would prefer the race with harder climbs. A couple of years ago PN included stump of Mont Ventoux. As I see, Tirreno has only Monte Lupone, right?
This. Paris-Nice had been in a run of great races, then 2011 killed all the momentum it had with a godawful parcours.Havetts said:With poop parcourses like this and last year's P-N, Tirreno by far.
No Montelupone this year. But there are some really nasty rises into Chieti, Macerata etc. that they can - and do - include, not just Montelupone (though I admit that is the greatest of them). Lots of short, steep ramps in Tirreno. Lots of them.airstream said:Honestly i don't like both, that's why i would prefer the race with harder climbs. A couple of years ago PN included stump of Mont Ventoux. As I see, Tirreno has only Monte Lupone, right?
Not so fast though; last year, the early stages of Paris-Nice were good too, with Voeckler and de Gendt going haywire. Then the "hilly" stages disappointed and the TT settled everything.Dazed and Confused said:After stage 2 of P-N, I think the Frogs will hold the upper hand this year.
Prestige-wise, I'd agree. But at the moment, Paris-Nice has lost its momentum for putting on good races after last year's snoozer, while Tirreno-Adriatico is in a strong run; the days of Cancellara and Freire's GC wins are forgotten, and the last 3 editions have been mighty entertaining.Cogombre said:This year, on paper (read, the route) Tirreno is the better race, imo. But P-N just started and the stage which was bound to be the dullest turned out to be pretty cool, so hard to know. And participation wise there's not much difference, so I won't vote just yet.
If we're talking about prestige, P-N > T-A, in my opinion.
airstream said:no, but i have a slight indulgence to dauphine. or rather, i dont like them very much.
Dazed and Confused said:After stage 2 of P-N, I think the Frogs will hold the upper hand this year.