Vuelta a España Who’s going to win La Vuelta? Rest Day 2 Poll

[Tonton]

I voted Kuss. Gewiss-Ballan all over. Volta ao Spain. That's how I feel.

 

[Escarabajo]

I voted Kuss. Gewiss-Ballan all over. Volta ao Spain. That's how I feel.

 

[dobrien]

I don't really get it. Kuss is seemingly in the shape of his life riding his third consecutive GT. Now I guess at least a bit of that is inferior competition but it's still absolutely remarkable.

I still think this is far from over. I think he can have a bad day any moment and something like Ayuso really going for it on the angliru could absolutely kill his gc ambitions. But I have to admit I massively underestimated him. Pretty incredible.

Don't forget he didn't ride for GC in either the Giro or Tour; not that that still isn't an incredible amount of hard riding but it should make a difference. He's a robust guy, recovers very well, and so far it seems like all the racing has suited him very well because he is flying. That said, there is a long way to go and the third week is still very hard. A big factor is frankly, as I said in Sepp's thread, it would be hard to imagine being in the leaders jersey at the end of the second week in a better position than he is. Pretty nice time buffer, two teammates either there to work for him or pick up the slack if he has a bad day. And if he DOES have the bad day, who except the usual suspects on here who irrationally hate the guy are going to blame him? He's got 2 2/3rds GC's in his legs; it wouldn't be a huge shock if he fades. He's got nothing to lose and everything to gain.

For me, he looks GREAT right now, happy, relaxed, and strong, and Ayuso was just quoted as saying he thinks Sepp is the strongest TJV guy. I believe he's going to do it.

 

[hfer07]

unfortunately, the winner will be picked by the DS & JVT management, UNLESS some misfortune happens to Kuss.
I mean.... Will Vingegaard attack Kuss? or Roglic for that matter? the situation is quite sketchy if you ask me

 

[gregrowlerson]

I voted other/Vino for Remco because he’s been the strongest the last 2 days.

Logic is your friend has been reincarnated as topcat.

 

[Nick2413]

King Kuss will take the throne in Madrid.

 

[dennisdy]

unfortunately, the winner will be picked by the DS & JVT management, UNLESS some misfortune happens to Kuss.
I mean.... Will Vingegaard attack Kuss? or Roglic for that matter? the situation is quite sketchy if you ask me

Kuss could falter, but the Angliru climb may be the only opportunity for this to happen. After all that he has done for Roglic and Vingegaard, an attack from that quarter is very unlikely. That leaves it to his few other GC challengers (Ayuso, Soler, Landa...). Kuss should be the one.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Don't forget he didn't ride for GC in either the Giro or Tour; not that that still isn't an incredible amount of hard riding but it should make a difference. He's a robust guy, recovers very well, and so far it seems like all the racing has suited him very well because he is flying. That said, there is a long way to go and the third week is still very hard. A big factor is frankly, as I said in Sepp's thread, it would be hard to imagine being in the leaders jersey at the end of the second week in a better position than he is. Pretty nice time buffer, two teammates either there to work for him or pick up the slack if he has a bad day. And if he DOES have the bad day, who except the usual suspects on here who irrationally hate the guy are going to blame him? He's got 2 2/3rds GC's in his legs; it wouldn't be a huge shock if he fades. He's got nothing to lose and everything to gain.

For me, he looks GREAT right now, happy, relaxed, and strong, and Ayuso was just quoted as saying he thinks Sepp is the strongest TJV guy. I believe he's going to do it.

He was actually riding GC at the Tour though until his crash. Without it he’s in the top 10.

 

[ice&fire]

unfortunately, the winner will be picked by the DS & JVT management, UNLESS some misfortune happens to Kuss.
I mean.... Will Vingegaard attack Kuss? or Roglic for that matter? the situation is quite sketchy if you ask me

The division of labour at Jumbo has been clear in the last three stages, and was confirmed by Ayuso in an interview yesterday:
Kuss follows Mas. Roglic follows Ayuso (even to pee breaks). Vingegaard follows everyone else.
So if Kuss is dropped, the winner is "somehow decided" by Jumbo's opponents.

 

[search]

Kuss could falter, but the Angliru climb may be the only opportunity for this to happen

he could, but on paper Angliru is the best climb of the race for him, and it comes after basically two rest days, given the junior length of the stage tomorrow. I'd think it's more likely Kuss wins than falters on Angliru.

 

[movingtarget]

Would prefer to see Kuss win a grand tour but.................

 

[TrekCyclist]

Hope Kuss can make it. But if its all in on Angliru, he might have a hard time. If he is losing a minute or so, I can imaging Rog and Vingo will stay with him and support. But if some of the Spaniards are about to gain more time on Kuss on Angliru, I expect Vingo and/or Rog to go for the GC.

 

[dennisdy]

he could, but on paper Angliru is the best climb of the race for him, and it comes after basically two rest days, given the junior length of the stage tomorrow. I'd think it's more likely Kuss wins than falters on Angliru.

I agree that he will more likely gain time than lose it. I was just emphasizing that this is the only stage that someone could attack him.

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

That really brings in the fanboys.

It is really hilarious that you replies to 2 posts from KOM without being able to sense he's being insanely ironic in these 2 posts and then you use his ironic posts as proof that fans of Remco have no connection to reality.

If you'd read any of KOMs post during this Vuelta it's clear that he's not a big fan of Remco (unless recognizing it was a nice breakaway win on stage 14 is enough to be put in the bracket)...

No wonder people like you are struggling with Remco fans when you can't even sense joke posts from people not being Remco fans pretending to be way over the top massive fanboys without a connection to the real world.

 

[Rackham]

After giving this whole situation some more thought (& despite the fact I really just want Rog to win the damned thing), I actually think Kuss winning GC could be hilarious... as long as he holds Bimba on the podium. I mean he's just got to.

 

[dobrien]

He was actually riding GC at the Tour though until his crash. Without it he’s in the top 10.

He was in a good position, but there is no way he was TARGETING the yellow jersey at the Tour; his job 100% was working for Jonas. Of course someone like Sepp is going to find himself high up the GC just by the nature of his strengths as a rider, but he had his days off at the Tour which was ultimately my point.

 

[dobrien]

he could, but on paper Angliru is the best climb of the race for him, and it comes after basically two rest days, given the junior length of the stage tomorrow. I'd think it's more likely Kuss wins than falters on Angliru.

If he is getting better as he says, I could definitely see him winning on Angliru rather than having any trouble. Unless he completely loses it the last week the only type of stage I could see him running into trouble would be an echelon type race and I don't know what the winds are like in the area around Friday's stage. As long as he stays good the type of climbing left in this race suits him very well.

edit: Saturday also looks like some fun potential chaos, that's actually the one I'm most looking forward to this week. A long way to go yet.

 

[SafeBet]

I believe if Kuss falters it happens on stage 20.

 

[Rob5091]

This Vuleta is over - next year though the Vuelta becomes the Volta, baby!
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling/vuelta-a-espana-2024-rumoured-to-start-in-lisbon-portugal

Lisbon, the capital of Portugal, could be the city that will host the start of the Vuelta a Espana 2024. The rumour has surged today, after the race having cancelled the stages in it's Iberic neighbor back in 2020 due to the Covid-19 pandemic.
According to AS, "there are talks with several locations and Lisbon is the one most likely to host the departure".

So G can race next year and feel young again, as we go to the land of rocket fuel and elderly stage winners.

 

[gregrowlerson]

This Vuleta is over - next year though the Vuelta becomes the Volta, baby!
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling/vuelta-a-espana-2024-rumoured-to-start-in-lisbon-portugal

Lisbon, the capital of Portugal, could be the city that will host the start of the Vuelta a Espana 2024. The rumour has surged today, after the race having cancelled the stages in it's Iberic neighbor back in 2020 due to the Covid-19 pandemic.
According to AS, "there are talks with several locations and Lisbon is the one most likely to host the departure".

So G can race next year and feel young again, as we go to the land of rocket fuel and elderly stage winners.

Gearing up already for plenty of obscure rider references from LS.

 

[SHAD0W93]

He was in a good position, but there is no way he was TARGETING the yellow jersey at the Tour; his job 100% was working for Jonas. Of course someone like Sepp is going to find himself high up the GC just by the nature of his strengths as a rider, but he had his days off at the Tour which was ultimately my point.

There’s a difference between targeting the yellow Jersey and riding for GC. Kuss was making sure to finish with the main group every.

 

[carolina]

This Vuleta is over - next year though the Vuelta becomes the Volta, baby!
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling/vuelta-a-espana-2024-rumoured-to-start-in-lisbon-portugal

Lisbon, the capital of Portugal, could be the city that will host the start of the Vuelta a Espana 2024. The rumour has surged today, after the race having cancelled the stages in it's Iberic neighbor back in 2020 due to the Covid-19 pandemic.
According to AS, "there are talks with several locations and Lisbon is the one most likely to host the departure".

So G can race next year and feel young again, as we go to the land of rocket fuel and elderly stage winners.

It was supposed to start in Portugal in 2020, but then covid happend

 

[ice&fire]

It was supposed to start in Portugal in 2020, but then covid happend

Innacurate. Portugal was expected to host two stages in the third week. The 2020 start was planned in Utrech.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Never underestimate third week
Landa

 

[Bolder]

I literally cannot believe that Sepp Kuss is the runaway favorite to win the Vuelta on a team with Vingegaard and Roglic. WTF just happened?

(ofc I voted for him)