- May 23, 2010
Ninety5rpm said:I'd like to know what white-collar crimes you're thinking of that don't have victims. What comes to mind is embezzling, which clearly has a victim (the embezzled). The bank employee who conspires with his high school buddies to rob the bank is a white collar criminal guilty of a crime with a victim (the bank).
I too want the truth to come out, but I also recognize my desire for the truth to come out does not warrant violating the rights of others in, I hate to say it, a witch hunt for the commission of a crime. Most investigation start with evidence of a crime being committed, and then they try to figure out who did it. So I'm just asking, what is the crime here and who are the victims?
I like the Ullrich answer, and I agree he was a victim of Armstong in some sense of the word, but I don't see a legal case there. That is, I don't see him going to the police to claim he was legally wronged, that he's a victim in the eyes of the law. Our legal/sports systems are not connected like that.
Let's say the police catches you speeding. No one's hurt, but you were just a bit beyond the posted speed limit. Instead of a ticket, you and the police come to an arrangement that you will donate $50 to the college fund of the police's daughter. You hand him the bill and that's that. No victims, in fact everyone walks away happy. Hence no crime?
If you do a bit of misrepresentation to get a sponsorship from a quasi-government agency, to promote the image of clean, pro cycling next to the sponsor's name - and then later are found to have lied about it, no harm done since everyone belived the lies at the time and hence the sponsor got their publicity. No need to open old wounds. No one got hurt. No crime?
Your twisted sense of the legal system is probably exactly how LA justified his actions to himself. No one's getting hurt. In fact lots of people are benefiting, cancer survivors and all. He figured as long as he was not caught in a doping test, he was as good as gold.
The problem at the end is that if you lie long enough, some people will become mad at you. At the end it does not matter what chapter of the legal book they catch you with. What did Al Capone go to prison for? Tax evasion.