Teams & Riders Who are The Top 10 Climbers of All Time

[Ilmaestro99]

Funnily enough, he never actually tested positive. Only got caught because his name was on the list of a doping doctor whose network was uncovered after an anti doping raid against some XC skiers. But I guess that's a discussion for a different forum.

On another note, I actually only don't care about spots 3 to 10. Number two is clearly Bernhard Kohl.

Felix Gall nummer 3? He humiliated vingegard on le loze

 

[BigCoward]

The guy whose results in GTs are 3rd, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd isn't committed.

No. He goes balls to the wall in every race, he's amazing, he's my favourite cyclist by far. But if he wanted to beat JV at the tour above everything else, he would have a very different schedule. And ride differently from Jan to July.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

The GOAT.

View: https://youtu.be/TrPMUcEHsRY?si=Gmt2PBfKPebnPVTt

 

[proffate]

Its the manner of the losses
A) absolutely destroyed
B) when it really counted
C) not just his main rival dropping him. Snce you mentioned him, he got caned by WvA.
He's young and may drop a few pounds and commit to grand tour racing, but at the minute I can't see it at all.

this is a dumb take. You judge cyclists on their best performances, not their worst ones, or else Sagan is a chump because he pulled out of a race once.

 

[BigCoward]

this is a dumb take. You judge cyclists on their best performances, not their worst ones, or else Sagan is a chump because he pulled out of a race once.

Speaking of dumb takes.....
When it really mattered, he was found wanting. No shame in that, Vingo is a beast, but let's not pretend his main rival isn't streets ahead if him the last 2 years when it counted.

 

[Netserk]

Speaking of dumb takes.....
When it really mattered, he was found wanting. No shame in that, Vingo is a beast, but let's not pretend his main rival isn't streets ahead if him the last 2 years when it counted.

Indeed. It's not about best performances or worst performances - but most important performances.

 

[Wyndbrook]

I can go back a long time as a cycling fan, but have only really been able to watch actual races as they became available to me in the 80's. Prior to that everything has been written with a few clips here and there.
I probably cling to the romantic vision that a climber is a rider soaring on his own in the mountains.

To me Pantani is the only rider that meets that vision that I have seen.

 

[Skijumper Roglic fan]

To me Pantani is the only rider that meets that vision that I have seen.

Agree. Pantani is just the eternal climbing legend.

Of course we cannot know if Ricco would have surpassed him one day. But Pantani‘s results speak for themselves.

I by the way am quite sure that the best Pantani was still to come. If there had been no tragedy in Madonna di Campiglio in 1999, Pantani‘s improvements as a rider certainly would have continued for another three to five years.

What I find surprising is that we as cycling supporters hardly get any comparisons of Pantani’s performance numbers to the numbers of Armstrong, Contador, Froome, Pogacar, Vingegaard, Roglic in their best times. I would love to get to know comparisons, when it comes to watts/kgs, vertical meters per hour, climbing times or speeds in kms/hr. One hardly reads about this, but it would be so interesting. So you could compare Pantani to the best climbers after his era.

 

[snipeheem]

Agree. Pantani is just the eternal climbing legend.

Of course we cannot know if Ricco would have surpassed him one day. But Pantani‘s results speak for themselves.

I by the way am quite sure that the best Pantani was still to come. If there had been no tragedy in Madonna di Campiglio in 1999, Pantani‘s improvements as a rider certainly would have continued for another three to five years.

What I find surprising is that we as cycling supporters hardly get any comparisons of Pantani’s performance numbers to the numbers of Armstrong, Contador, Froome, Pogacar, Vingegaard, Roglic in their best times. I would love to get to know comparisons, when it comes to watts/kgs, vertical meters per hour, climbing times or speeds in kms/hr. One hardly reads about this, but it would be so interesting. So you could compare Pantani to the best climbers after his era.

What was his w/kg on alpe d heuz?? Did anybody know?