Who is/are your favorite rider(s)

[airstream]

You are clearly trolling in this thread.

And by trolling I mean clearly trying to hijack this thread by baiting people into a discussion youve had with them hundreds of times.

This thread is called "who is/are your favourite (proper english) rider".

Why are you so determined to make it about how Andy is the best climber in the world. Can't you start your own thread for that?

alright, we'll try to start such a debate in Andy Schleck appreciation thread as soon as there is a new reason

 

[Magnus]

He wasn't the best in 2011. He could never get a gap on anyone except on one stage where no one bothered to react on his attack.

Evans gapped him on some stages though

Yeah, if you discount the most awesome move in a GT mountain stage in recent years he sucked...

And when did Evans gap him?

 

[Havetts]

And when did Evans gap him?

There, exactly there.

 

[El Pistolero]

Yeah, if you discount the most awesome move in a GT mountain stage in recent years he sucked...

And when did Evans gap him?

He made most of his time in the valley between the two mountains. That's why I'm not really counting it. Great performance for sure, but we can't now for sure if no one could react on it. They let him go, that much was obvious. Evans practically took the whole final climb for him self and reduced the gap between them A LOT. Who was the strongest that day? I don't know...

He lost time to Evans on the first stage of the Tour, Mur de Bretagne, Super-Besse and on stage 16 that finished in Gap.

Samu Sanchez and Evans did just as great as Andy in the mountains, that's my opinion. This kid is definitely not the best climber of the decade.

 

[virandociclista]

He made most of his time in the valley between the two mountains. That's why I'm not really counting it. Great performance for sure, but we can't now for sure if no one could react on it. They let him go, that much was obvious. Evans practically took the whole final climb for him self and reduced the gap between them A LOT. Who was the strongest that day? I don't know...

He lost time to Evans on the first stage of the Tour, Mur de Bretagne, Super-Besse and on stage 16 that finished in Gap.

Samu Sanchez and Evans did just as great as Andy in the mountains, that's my opinion. This kid is definitely not the best climber of the decade.

I would like to know how much money Andy Schleck give to that Quickstep rider that was in the break in the valley who did a lot of work for the leopard.

 

[Magnus]

He lost time to Evans on the first stage of the Tour, Mur de Bretagne, Super-Besse and on stage 16 that finished in Gap.

He didn't loose time in Super-Besse. And frankly I fail to see how his performances in stage 1, 4 and 16 are indicative of climbing abilities.

This kid is definitely not the best climber of the decade.

Agreed

 

[The Hitch]

He didn't loose time in Super-Besse. And frankly I fail to see how his performances in stage 1, 4 and 16 are indicative of climbing abilities.


Agreed

Well 16 was. He cracked. Contador attacked 3 times and it was lights out.

4 maybe since it was a hill.

1 definately no. The Liege podium finisher came in like 3 minutes behind not because of a 200m roadbump but because he decided to just walk in after the crash. A shame though that The Andy Schleck Organization gave him a better time than about 50 riders who beat him on that stage.

 

[airstream]

He made most of his time in the valley between the two mountains.

that has only a referential significance cos such a raid couldn't have unfolded other way and he was doomed to lose time on last 7-8k of galibier because of the fact that all the rivals did before is generating strength, so your reasoning is a wrong dichotomy in substance. its the same like i would say, ah he's a superb descender, he put time on the peloton on the downhill from izoard.

I would like to know how much money Andy Schleck give to that Quickstep rider that was in the break in the valley who did a lot of work for the leopard.

he did 1.5 pulls.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Now the big question is, who am I gona love and dream about after this years tour when Vino is retiering? any suggestions?

 

[El Pistolero]

that has only a referential significance cos such a raid couldn't have unfolded other way and he was doomed to lose time on last 7-8k of galibier because of the fact that all the rivals did before is generating strength, so your reasoning is a wrong dichotomy in substance. its the same like i would say, ah he's a superb descender, he put time on the peloton on the downhill from izoard.


he did 1.5 pulls.

Lol

You mean Monfort... He did the descending.

Devenys did 23% of the work. I still remember the graphics they used in the Tour

You live in a fantasy world I guess.

 

[The Hitch]

Lol

You mean Monfort... He did the descending.

Devenys did 23% of the work. I still remember the graphics they used in the Tour

You live in a fantasy world I guess.

Though you ignore the fact that cycling behind 1 or 2 riders is not the same as cycling in the peloton or even in a group of 10.

You still have to do a lot of work to keep up.

 

[El Pistolero]

But you can't really use that stage to determine who is the best climber now can you? Something I've been saying all along.

 

[airstream]

Lol

You mean Monfort... He did the descending.

Devenys did 23% of the work. I still remember the graphics they used in the Tour

You live in a fantasy world I guess.

I was taking that example purposely to show absurdity of your judgment on Galibier stage as the peloton was riding slowly, overbraking every turn, without an accented pursuit, whereas Schleck and Monfort were going full blast, changing each other. It's the same irrelevant situation as yours with the attempt to split the stage into "valley" and "climbs", calculate time on each of them and make a conclusion.

How many previous k did that graphics take into consideration?

 

[hrotha]

Go read the stage thread to see what people saw Devenys do at the time.

 

[greenedge]

Now the big question is, who am I gona love and dream about after this years tour when Vino is retiering? any suggestions?

Hoogerland the future GC contender

Why not just keep on following someone from Astana?

 

[RedZone]

A few of mine are

Chavanel
Sammy Sanchez
Porte
Hoogerland

 

[LaFlorecita]

Now the big question is, who am I gona love and dream about after this years tour when Vino is retiering? any suggestions?

Alberto.

Or Samu or Jesus or Nibs or Sagan or Eddy.

 

[Red Rick]

Better?



Incredibly open-minded. I even put others in my top. I could've just selected one but that's just not true.



I wonder how he confirmed it.

Yeah, I get people dislike the likes of gesink but Johnny is the true Dutch hero

 

[maltiv]

Yeah, I get people dislike the likes of gesink but Johnny is the true Dutch hero

That's not really true. Before 2011 there was a lot of dislike for him on this forum (particularly in the clinic). He had a very unflattering nickname too...

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Hoogerland the future GC contender

Why not just keep on following someone from Astana?

Astana? meh, i have followed Vino since his Telekom days, nothing to do with Astana (im not from Kazaksthan either )

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Alberto.

Or Samu or Jesus or Nibs or Sagan or Eddy.

Allready like Alberto, Samu is also ok, Eddy is kinda cool, but not good enough in the hills/mountains

And i can't like Sagan when i like EBH

Noone of them got the Vino charm over them though... Hoogerland is an ok idea

 

[El Pistolero]

Allready like Alberto, Samu is also ok, Eddy is kinda cool, but not good enough in the hills/mountains

And i can't like Sagan when i like EBH

Noone of them got the Vino charm over them though... Hoogerland is an ok idea

How about Boonen in the Belgian tricolour?

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

How about Boonen in the Belgian tricolour?

Boonen, love him in the classics, but need someone that can be there and make hell in the mountains, as well as in hills

this is some tricky ****

 

[El Pistolero]

Boonen, love him in the classics, but need someone that can be there and make hell in the mountains, as well as in hills

this is some tricky ****

How about Gilbert with Boonen's look?

Otherwise your best bet would be.... Evans

 

[maltiv]

And i can't like Sagan when i like EBH

Why is that?