Who is next to dominate GT's?

[Ryo Hazuki]

latin riders are not leaders by their nature

what do you call cipo then?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I'm guessing Froome or van Garderen. Pinot, Quintana and others might be able to nick a GT win here or there but Tejay and Froome are far too good at TTing to be seriously challenged by anybody except each other.

except van garderen sucks at climbing. he will never be a serious force in gt's.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Certainly not a given that. Still need to see whether Contador can take on Froome and then also see whether he is up to his very best after his ban as we never got to see that properly in the Vuelta. Schleck and Froome are certainly not far off him if not his equal when it comes to climbing so another rider coming to challenge whilst still at his peak is not unimaginable.

Omg Alberto is one of the most talented riders in the peloton, I simply won't believe froome can beat Alberto when they're both at their best. Froome his equal when it comes to climbing, this beats everything and is the most stupid thing I've ever heard

 

[LaFlorecita]

Quintana or Pinot, they are still young, Froome he is already 27 he won't improve much

 

[ILovecycling]

what do you call cipo then?

Exactly!

@airstream Quintana will be GT leader,thats for sure and when Valverede retires he will have a strong team around him

 

[El Pistolero]

so is geraint thomas, but for him it's impossible to improve much as he's already too old for that (your words). lol man you are hilarious

Where did I say that?

Thomas De Gendt has shown potential for GC because of his podium in the Giro. What potential has Geraint Thomas shown in Roubaix?

Now go troll somewhere else, stick to your Rujano thread, so at least I won't have to read your nonsense. I'm sure you've already bashed a few Belgian riders there, but luckily I don't care enough for Rujano to actually look or make a post there.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Can't see anybody being able to dominate behind Contador for now, but somebody will step forward and claim the position.

 

[BlenJones2]

The future is Sagan. Reckon he'll spend the next few years collecting points jerseys and classics to his palmares and with age his endurance will grow and weight drop. Be afraid...

 

[Altitude]

except van garderen sucks at climbing. he will never be a serious force in gt's.

His climbing is decent enough for the Tour. A sh!tty route like 2012 for example suits him perfectly.

 

[calinmarian]

The future is Sagan. Reckon he'll spend the next few years collecting points jerseys and classics to his palmares and with age his endurance will grow and weight drop. Be afraid...

When Contador retires the three GTs will be splitted between Peter Sagan(if he decides to become a stage race rider) Tejay van Garderen(Cadel Evans apprentice) and Quintana.

 

[Altitude]

I know De Gendt came third but it's hard for me to take that Giro seriously considering that freaking Ryder Hesjedal won it.

 

[The Hitch]

Omg Alberto is one of the most talented riders in the peloton, I simply won't believe froome can beat Alberto when they're both at their best. Froome his equal when it comes to climbing, this beats everything and is the most stupid thing I've ever heard

You have to realize that someone who started watching cycling in July 2011 will only have seen Contador crack on Galibier, fail to drop Levi in San Luis and lose mountain after mountain to Purito at the VUelta. In that same time he has seen Froome 2nd the Vuelta and win a stage while domestiquing, and be the best climbr in a Tour de France.

So its not that surprising he thinks Froome is Contadors equal in climbing. Hell he actually deep inside likely thinks that Froome is significantly better at climbing but is afraid to say it that way because these Contador fanboys, who (god knows why) seem to think Contador is this great climber who can drop anyone, will call him an idiot.

 

[The Hitch]

Thomas De Gendt has shown potential for GC because of his podium in the Giro. What potential has Geraint Thomas shown in Roubaix?

He has won the u23 edition and placed 2nd in the Tour de France stage that went over it.

Thomas probably has as good a chance of winning Paris Roubaix as De Gendt has at winning the Tour.

But of course ultranationalistic types who's view of cycling is so clouded by where someone comes from that the metaphorical glasses are for all intents and purposes opaque, will rate one of those significantly higher than the other. Depending where exactly they come from of course.

 

[El Pistolero]

He has won the u23 edition and placed 2nd in the Tour de France stage that went over it.

Thomas probably has as good a chance of winning Paris Roubaix as De Gendt has at winning the Tour.

But of course ultranationalistic types who's view of cycling is so clouded by where someone comes from that the metaphorical glasses are for all intents and purposes opaque, will rate one of those significantly higher than the other. Depending where exactly they come from of course.

No, he hasn't.

He has finished 64th in his first Roubaix and abandoned in his second Roubaix.

Thomas De Gendt rode with the best on Alpe Dhuez and rode an excellent time trial during his first Tour and finished on the podium in his first Giro while winning a stage on the Stelvio. He also won a climbing stage during the Tour de Suisse, beating Andy Schleck. Though admittedly, that isn't much of an achievement.

How can you even compare the two.

At least I don't have to make up results.

Ps: I don't think Thomas de Gendt will dominate the GTs or win the Tour. I just don't think a 26 year old who finished on the podium in his second GT is too old like some already claimed. 25 years old actually at the time of the Giro.

 

[Pandora]

Considering GT's cycling has pretty much dynasties you can say. Merckx, hinault, indurain, (go the clinic) and now Contador.

Who do you think will dominate GT's after Contador? Let's say 5 more years Contador and then what?

Speaking of dynasties reminds me of Moreno Moser. He is not of Contador's caliber, but I can easily see him winning a GT in 5-6 years. Contador after Contador? No, my crystal ball doesn't show any name at the moment.

 

[The Hitch]

No, he hasn't.

He has finished 64th in his first Roubaix and abandoned in his second Roubaix.

Thomas De Gendt rode with the best on Alpe Dhuez and rode an excellent time trial during his first Tour and finished on the podium in his first Giro while winning a stage on the Stelvio. He also won a climbing stage during the Tour de Suisse, beating Andy Schleck. Though admittedly, that isn't much of an achievement.

How can you even compare the two.

At least I don't have to make up results.

Ps: I don't think Thomas de Gendt will dominate the GTs or win the Tour. I just don't think a 26 year old who finished on the podium in his second GT is too old like some already claimed. 25 years old actually at the time of the Giro.

Junior Paris Roubaix then. He won the junior edition.

 

[Panda Claws]

Junior Paris Roubaix then. He won the junior edition.

Pretty much any pro with any potential used to be amazing with the Juniors.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

His climbing is decent enough for the Tour. A sh!tty route like 2012 for example suits him perfectly.

That was an atypical TDF course designed with Wiggins in mind. You can't just expect that there will be more of that anytime soon. I'd expect the opposite with Rolland and Pinot as the most likely French GC contenders.

 

[airstream]

Exactly!

@airstream Quintana will be GT leader,thats for sure and when Valverede retires he will have a strong team around him

it doesn't make sentence wrong. I prefer potential confirmed with results otherwise we bump into absurd like 'quintana. froome wont be able to improve much'

You have to realize that someone who started watching cycling in July 2011 will only have seen Contador crack on Galibier, fail to drop Levi in San Luis and lose mountain after mountain to Purito at the VUelta. In that same time he has seen Froome 2nd the Vuelta and win a stage while domestiquing, and be the best climbr in a Tour de France.

This scheme of reasoning would have worked perfectly if only guys who started following in 2011 had thought this way.

 

[Froome19]

You have to realize that someone who started watching cycling in July 2011 will only have seen Contador crack on Galibier, fail to drop Levi in San Luis and lose mountain after mountain to Purito at the VUelta. In that same time he has seen Froome 2nd the Vuelta and win a stage while domestiquing, and be the best climbr in a Tour de France.

So its not that surprising he thinks Froome is Contadors equal in climbing. Hell he actually deep inside likely thinks that Froome is significantly better at climbing but is afraid to say it that way because these Contador fanboys, who (god knows why) seem to think Contador is this great climber who can drop anyone, will call him an idiot.

Lol..

A couple of facts about me. I never started watching cycling in July 2011.
I watched Tours from 2009..

And Btw do you not realise the ironic nature of your post?

 

[TheGame]

No, he hasn't.

He has finished 64th in his first Roubaix and abandoned in his second Roubaix.

Was working for Flecha, and the second one he crashed (About three times)

 

[airstream]

Lol..

A couple of facts about me. I never started watching cycling in July 2011.
I watched Tours from 2009..

And Btw do you not realise the ironic nature of your post?

i like his mentor intonations.

Whats the difference.. a man with a lesser fan experience can easily see deeper sometimes.

 

[Jason_Mercier]

Contador five years more dominating... WTF? 2007-2017? HAHA

 

[Peccio89]

Van Garderen and Pinot.
With Dombrowski and Quintana to shake things up in the mountains

 

[will10]

I know De Gendt came third but it's hard for me to take that Giro seriously considering that freaking Ryder Hesjedal won it.

Ahead of some guy called Rodriguez who gave Contador a hell of a fight in the Vuelta.

The "weak field" argument that comes up on this forum incessantly is seriously tiresome. Some people need to twig that the list of top GC men is changing all the time and not every GT has a weak field FFS.