Knowing what Ricco was doing with stuff that belongs into the clinic it made me feel like an instant no, maybe other gc contesters do clinic stuff too but weren't/arent as obvious as Ricco.The Hitch said:though part of my mind is screaming "Cobra!"
Exactly, I agree on this one. The moment when 'it matters' Samu was there and actually was the best climber behind Andrew and Berty. It kind of gives me the feeling if Samu wants to peak for something he has set his mind on he can contend it when he wants to. So thats why I was doubting between him and Gesink's potential, though he hasnt shown it this year yet.The Hitch said:Samu was the best of the rest in the Tour which we could argue was where the title for "best climber other than Contador and Schleck" was fought out.
Its weird. He thrashed everyone in GP Miguel Indurain, then was only decent in Vasco winning that stage only because he won it before but sucked bad in tt.Havetts said:Knowing what Ricco was doing with stuff that belongs into the clinic it made me feel like an instant no, maybe other gc contesters do clinic stuff too but weren't/arent as obvious as Ricco.
Exactly, I agree on this one. The moment when 'it matters' Samu was there and actually was the best climber behind Andrew and Berty. It kind of gives me the feeling if Samu wants to peak for something he has set his mind on he can contend it when he wants to. So thats why I was doubting between him and Gesink's potential, though he hasnt shown it this year yet.![]()
How about winning a mountain stage of the Vuelta back in '06 and being the only person to be able to stay with Contador and Valverde in the '08 one until crashing out?luckyboy said:Would've been better to see Anton in the rest of the Vuelta. Haven't remembered him doing really well in the mountains apart from the Vuelta.
Have to wait and see how Gesink goes this year also.
LOL, how can you have a thread asking who is the best climber in the world but then put a qualifier on it by excluding the best two climbers??! Thats just dumb.The Hitch said:At the moment the position of best climber in the world seems to clearly held by Alberto Contador, followed by Andrew Schleck in second.
Bit if we take out Al and Andy, who is the greatest climber of the rest.
Actually if you read the thread and the question, Al and Andy are eliminated first, then the question is posed.Yeahright said:LOL, how can you have a thread asking who is the best climber in the world but then put a qualifier on it by excluding the best two climbers??! Thats just dumb.
He dropped Contador, Soler and Mosquera last year in CyL in El Morredero... dropped Contador cuz He covered every attack and cooked himself in the process...luckyboy said:Would've been better to see Anton in the rest of the Vuelta. Haven't remembered him doing really well in the mountains apart from the Vuelta.
Young climber ----> Henao as proved more than Monsalve and Sontoro together...greenedge said:I think good questions to ask would be if Pozzovio, Uran and Sastre should be on that list and who is the best Young climber ( monsalve, santoro ) and who has been the best climber ever, Jimenez, Virenque, Bahamontes, Pantani or Contador.
Lets talk about real climbs! anything over 10%...Timmy-loves-Rabo said:depends on the climb.
Oh I understood it fine as well but that doesn't change the fact that it is a non sequitur and therefore irrelevant. The best climber is the best climber, period. Essentially you are actually asking; "Who is the third best climber in the world?"The Hitch said:Actually if you read the thread and the question, Al and Andy are eliminated first, then the question is posed.
Everyone else seemed to understand it fine.
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