Who will win la Vuelta a España 2012?

[airstream]

Lol, so who do you think will win la Vuelta.

I don't know whether ban has re-educated Alberto or he'll bluff again. Everything depends on that.

 

[LaFlorecita]

It's a myth. Even Contador can't provide verbier shows a few times during one GT. All the more so, it'd be better to attack with somebody else because, with a positional pursuit, a train often has the edge over the only escapee in a quite long distance.

Also, I see that you went from "Alberto will never provide Verbier again" to "He can't provide Verbier a few times during a GT". What happened?

Btw, Alberto doesn't need to "provide Verbier" in order to crush Froome.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I don't know whether ban has re-educated Alberto or he'll bluff again. Everything depends on that.

 

[SafeBet]

Vino/other is pretty much the voices of Cobo aint it?

You mean Vino is not riding the Vuelta?

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

You mean Vino is not riding the Vuelta?

He is supposed to quit after the Olympics, but perhaps he want to show us that the true gt rider of this generation is not AC

 

[airstream]

How should it be understood? OK, frankly speaking, if the tolerance promotes entertainment, i go with juanjo, but if cycling fights against doping, froome will win.

 

[airstream]

Also, I see that you went from "Alberto will never provide Verbier again" to "He can't provide Verbier a few times during a GT". What happened?

Btw, Alberto doesn't need to "provide Verbier" in order to crush Froome.

I was always saying about the Tour. It still can happen in the Giro / Vuelta.

But we should consider we've never seen so far how Froome can attack for himself, barring a little slice of Pena Cabarga, that impressed so so much.

 

[LaFlorecita]

How should it be understood? OK, frankly speaking, if the tolerance promotes entertainment, i go with juanjo, but if cycling fights against doping, froome will win.

It should be understood this way: Your constant hinting at Alberto's doping case is getting really annoying, especially since you hate him for it but yet you cheer for Cobo

 

[LaFlorecita]

He is supposed to quit after the Olympics, but perhaps he want to show us that the true gt rider of this generation is not AC

Lol Airstream probably thinks it is Andy

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Lol Airstream probably thinks it is Andy

lol, If Andy had the mentality of Vino it would actually be pretty damn awesome

 

[airstream]

It should be understood this way: Your constant hinting at Alberto's doping case is getting really annoying, especially since you hate him for it but yet you cheer for Cobo

No, simply his new (or old) attitude to doping will predetermine his future career and that's it. that is clear as day. I can't hate riders.

I started rooting for Juanjo a little bit in 2007 yet. Very bright climber, but sadly a mysterious and unstable one.

 

[jsem94]

Alberto will win.

 

[LaFlorecita]

No, simply his new (or old) attitude to doping will predetermine his future career and that's it. that is clear as day. I can't hate riders.

I started rooting for Juanjo a little bit in 2007 yet. Very bright climber, but sadly a mysterious and unstable one.

If you want to discuss Alberto's attitude to doping and what influence it will have on his future career you can take it to the Clinic.

 

[LaFlorecita]

This poll is a good example of a "landslide"

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

This poll is a good example of a "landslide"

So what is the top three gona be LaFlorecita?

1.Vino - after deciding to win the Vuelta just for the fun of it
2.AC - Was giving Vino a pretty good fight, but let us be honest, we all knew already from the begining that he wouldnt be able to keep Vinos pace
3. Cobo - he did barely make the timelimit on most mountain stages

 

[LaFlorecita]

So what is the top three gona be LaFlorecita?

1.Vino - after deciding to win the Vuelta just for the fun of it
2.AC - Was giving Vino a pretty good fight, but let us be honest, we all knew already from the begining that he wouldnt be able to keep Vinos pace
3. Cobo - he did barely make the timelimit on most mountain stages

I believe it will be:

Alberto

Jesus +17'46"

Purito +26'52"

Froome +39'24"

Gesink +1h02'36"

Schleck +1h35'02"

It will be a massacre.

Ok, Vino +22'41"

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Ok, Vino +22'41"

Can Vino atleast get 7 stage victories and the KOM jersey?

 

[The Hitch]

You guys really need to get over the notion that Chris Froome is anywhere on the level of an Alberto Contador. That's just silly talk. if Contador were in the tour he would be blowing up the Sky train every time the road went up.

Yes, and its particularly laughable to hear that a "top form" Contador (a stipulation that invalidates rights to brag should post ban contador be a lesser beast than the machine that we knew) will struggle with a post TDF Froome.

I mean its one thing to say a top top peak Froome (and i am a big fan) could maybe with a little bit of luck here and there, surprise a underperforming Contador, but the idea that Froome is going to come off his TDF peak into Pantani mode for the Vuelta is ridiculous.

Has anyone ever been the best rider at the Tour - which froome arguably is, 2nd at worst, and then gone on and be even better at the Vuelta? In the 18 or so years that the Vuelta has been in September, i dont think so. Some like Heras have done very well in the Tour and gone on to win the Vuelta but to have a peak like froome has for the Tour and go on to improve. What is he going to be like when he finally does decide to peak if this is just a warm up?

 

[LaFlorecita]

Couldn't agree more Hitchy.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Can Vino atleast get 7 stage victories and the KOM jersey?

Yes

But maybe Alberto will win KOM because he will win all 8 mtfs.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Yes, and its particularly laughable to hear that a "top form" Contador (a stipulation that invalidates rights to brag should post ban contador be a lesser beast than the machine that we knew) will struggle with a post TDF Froome.

I mean its one thing to say a top top peak Froome (and i am a big fan) could maybe with a little bit of luck here and there, surprise a underperforming Contador, but the idea that Froome is going to come off his TDF peak into Pantani mode for the Vuelta is ridiculous.

Has anyone ever been the best rider at the Tour - which froome arguably is, 2nd at worst, and then gone on and be even better at the Vuelta? In the 18 or so years that the Vuelta has been in September, i dont think so. Some like Heras have done very well in the Tour and gone on to win the Vuelta but to have a peak like froome has for the Tour and go on to improve. What is he going to be like when he finally does decide to peak if this is just a warm up?

Well put Hitch

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Yes, and its particularly laughable to hear that a "top form" Contador (a stipulation that invalidates rights to brag should post ban contador be a lesser beast than the machine that we knew) will struggle with a post TDF Froome.

I mean its one thing to say a top top peak Froome (and i am a big fan) could maybe with a little bit of luck here and there, surprise a underperforming Contador, but the idea that Froome is going to come off his TDF peak into Pantani mode for the Vuelta is ridiculous.

Has anyone ever been the best rider at the Tour - which froome arguably is, 2nd at worst, and then gone on and be even better at the Vuelta? In the 18 or so years that the Vuelta has been in September, i dont think so. Some like Heras have done very well in the Tour and gone on to win the Vuelta but to have a peak like froome has for the Tour and go on to improve. What is he going to be like when he finally does decide to peak if this is just a warm up?

Because he is a freaking machine. :searching for reasons:

 

[ilmaffe]

Yes, and its particularly laughable to hear that a "top form" Contador (a stipulation that invalidates rights to brag should post ban contador be a lesser beast than the machine that we knew) will struggle with a post TDF Froome.

I mean its one thing to say a top top peak Froome (and i am a big fan) could maybe with a little bit of luck here and there, surprise a underperforming Contador, but the idea that Froome is going to come off his TDF peak into Pantani mode for the Vuelta is ridiculous.

Has anyone ever been the best rider at the Tour - which froome arguably is, 2nd at worst, and then gone on and be even better at the Vuelta? In the 18 or so years that the Vuelta has been in September, i dont think so. Some like Heras have done very well in the Tour and gone on to win the Vuelta but to have a peak like froome has for the Tour and go on to improve. What is he going to be like when he finally does decide to peak if this is just a warm up?

Perfect.

Alberto will win Giro2011 style because I don't think Andy would be in top form and other guys are clearly a couple of level below.

What about Ryder? After the retire in the Tour is he planning to go to Spain in September?

 

[The Hitch]

Perfect.

Alberto will win Giro2011 style because I don't think Andy would be in top form and other guys are clearly a couple of level below.

What about Ryder? After the retire in the Tour is he planning to go to Spain in September?

Doubt it. Hes already had a long season with Giro, is going to do the olympics road and tt i think. The Giro was a long term goal, 6 months of preperation. I think he will realize that trying a rapid peak on an already tired body will be hard.

 

[ilmaffe]

Doubt it. Hes already had a long season with Giro, is going to do the olympics road and tt i think. The Giro was a long term goal, 6 months of preperation. I think he will realize that trying a rapid peak on an already tired body will be hard.

Well you're probably right. Was asking because I'm very curious to see him fight for another Gt with his Giro form.