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Who will win the Giro 2018?

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Who will win the Giro 2018?

  • Christopher Froome

    Votes: 36 26.1%

  • Davide Formolo

    Votes: 1 0.7%

  • Domenico Pozzovivo

    Votes: 2 1.4%

  • Fabio Aru

    Votes: 5 3.6%

  • Johan Esteban Chaves Rubio

    Votes: 5 3.6%

  • Miguel Ángel López Moreno

    Votes: 17 12.3%

  • Simon Yates

    Votes: 1 0.7%

  • Thibaut Pinot

    Votes: 29 21.0%

  • Tom Dumoulin

    Votes: 42 30.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    138
  • Poll closed .
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Escarabajo said:
Pantani_lives said:
Let's see if the forum agrees with the bookmakers. The first names are in alphabetical order. If you think "other" mention the name in the forum.
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Of course not. We vote with our hearts not our wallets! :D
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However it looks like the same top 2 at the moment: Froome and Dumoulin. I have my doubts about Dumoulin, because there are more serious mountain stages than last year, so I think climbers like López and Aru might have a better chance. I voted López, but that's a vote with the heart. He might just win a stage and finish fifth. Objectively Froome is favorite, but I don't want to see him win. I really hope the climbers can tear it apart this year.
 
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I have trouble seeing Froome as a superior climber when looking at 2017.
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That's true, but he still has his time trial, his regularity and a strong team, so even without dropping all the others on a climb he's still a candidate. I don't think he's as much the favorite as in last year's Tour however. It remains to be seen how he copes with those steep Italian mountains in the final nine days.
 
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Red Rick said:
I have trouble seeing Froome as a superior climber when looking at 2017.
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You think Froome would have been dropped on Foza and Piancavallo like Tom? I certainly think Froome is more consistent and better on back-to-back mountain stages.
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Hard to say. Dumoulin was alone, and limited the damage very well on his own. Something Froome never had to do.

I honestly believe that Dumoulin's climbing before that was stronger than Froome on the big climbs in 2017.
 
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Red Rick said:
Netserk said:
Red Rick said:
I have trouble seeing Froome as a superior climber when looking at 2017.
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You think Froome would have been dropped on Foza and Piancavallo like Tom? I certainly think Froome is more consistent and better on back-to-back mountain stages.
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Hard to say. Dumoulin was alone, and limited the damage very well on his own. Something Froome never had to do.

I honestly believe that Dumoulin's climbing before that was stronger than Froome on the big climbs in 2017.
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They also underestimated Dumoulin last year and Nibali and Quintana spent much of the race looking at each other rather than attacking
 
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Froome is the obvious favorite, but I definitely don't think he'll win by a large margin. The trend, that his performances in his last preparation race got worse over the years, continued so I don't see a reason to believe he will somehow return to his former self which could gain minutes on mtf's. If he wins this, he'll win with consistency and the ITT. The question is, is that enough to beat Dumoulin, Lopez, Aru,... I can very well see the climbing shape of Lopez to simply be so good that he gains a few seconds on every single mtf, and if that happens the two ITT's probably will not be enough. I also think that if Dumoulin doesn't fade in consecutive mountain stages like last year, he is the man to beat (that said, I think he'll have the same problems as last year)
This won't be a walk in the park for Froome. His team isn't as strong as it usually is in the tour and the racing will be a lot less controlled. I think this will be a pretty good giro.
 
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Froome.

At some point in his career he'll fade, but as it stands he won the last two Grand Tours and has more Grand Tour wins and podiums than the rest of the startlist combined.

Pinot and Dumoulin to complete the podium.
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A palmares is exactly that, a reflection of the rider he used to be. At the same time, younger riders are just entering their best years.
 
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Yeah, watch out for Lopez. He's produced a few deceptively good ITTs in the past and if he takes off uphill he's hard to get back.
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Superman's ITT is mediocre. He'll lose at least 2 to 3 minutes in Trento.

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All of his results in (official) prologues and timetrials:
2018
- 8th in National Championships (25k) - flat time trial, lost more than a minute to Bernal
- 28th in Abu Dhabi (12.6k) - flat, 50 seconds slower than Dennis, which is a lot over 12k
- 75th in Tirreno (10.05k) - flat once more, bad shape in Tirreno. Which resulted in a loss of 1:05 to Dennis

2017
- 2nd in Österreich-Rundfahrt (0.8k) - the first 800m of Schlossberg, so a climbing prologue
- 141st in Suiza (6k) - flat prologue, only his second day of racing of the season, so not too much to read into, but 141st out of 176 is pretty bad
- 22nd in Vuelta (40.2) - rolling-ish timetrial. Result itself not that bad, but lost 2:34 to Froome.

2016
- 2nd in Suiza (16.8k) - tougher than advertised, not really comparable to Longroño
- 36th in Suiza (6.4k) - hillyish prologue in Baarn
- 64th in Romandia (15.1k) - hilly timetrial in Sion, lost 1:29 to Pinot
- 35th in Romandia (3.95k) - hillyish prologue in La Chaux-de-Fonds, lost 21 seconds to Izagirre
- 9th in Itzulia (16.5k) - Arrate, so a very, very tough timetrial
- 4th in National Championships (35.2k) - flat timetrial, lost 1:22 to Walter Vargas, 0:37 to Brayan Ramirez

2015
- 46th in Suiza (38.4k) - hilly timetrial in Bern, lost 3 minutes to Dumoulin
- 99th in Suiza (5.1k) - flat prologue, lost 26 seconds to Dumoulin

2014
- 36th in World Championships U23 (36.1k) - flat time trial, lost 2:37 to Campbell Flakemore
- 4th in National Championships U23 (25k) - flat (IIRC) time trial, lost 1:25 to Carlos Ramirez

All things considered and knowing that both the time trials are rolling-ish and thus in favor of Tom, I think it's fair to say Superman will lose around 2:30 to Trento and might already be looking at a loss of 0:40 - 0:45 seconds this Friday.
 
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Parker said:
Froome.

At some point in his career he'll fade, but as it stands he won the last two Grand Tours and has more Grand Tour wins and podiums than the rest of the startlist combined.

Pinot and Dumoulin to complete the podium.
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A palmares is exactly that, a reflection of the rider he used to be. At the same time, younger riders are just entering their best years.
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They're not from days of yore. He's just been the first person to win back to back GTs in twenty years. Literally in the last two races.
 
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