Who would win, Cancellara or Cavendish

[onetofifteen]

in a 200km one-on-one road race on a totally flat motorway with no wind?

Obviously such a race would never happen but I think it would help my understanding of the sport of cycling to know the answer.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Always Cancellara

 

[For The World]

Just for fun, I think it would be Cancellara. They'd test each other out over the first 150km, but then Cancellara would just do what he did in Paris-Roubaix and time trial away from Cavendish. With 40km to go, race officials would just call the race because Cavendish would have no retort for such an attack.

 

[ingsve]

Always Cancellara

You think? I think Cavendish would just sit on his wheel. Without some type of obstacle in the road I can't see him simply riding Cav off his wheel without attacking. Whenever Cancellara attacked I think that Cavendish would be speedy enough to close the gap quickly and stay in the slipstream.

 

[WonderLance]

You think? I think Cavendish would just sit on his wheel. Without some type of obstacle in the road I can't see him simply riding Cav off his wheel without attacking. Whenever Cancellara attacked I think that Cavendish would be speedy enough to close the gap quickly and stay in the slipstream.

you don't race bikes do you?

 

[zapata]

Cancellara could drop Cavendish on the flat without accelerating.

 

[ingsve]

you don't race bikes do you?

No, I don't.

 

[Willy_Voet]

You think? I think Cavendish would just sit on his wheel. Without some type of obstacle in the road I can't see him simply riding Cav off his wheel without attacking. Whenever Cancellara attacked I think that Cavendish would be speedy enough to close the gap quickly and stay in the slipstream.

Have you ever seen a sprinter in a TT when another rider passes them?

 

[jens_attacks]

cavendish.

























if he can sprint from 199 km to go.

 

[El Pistolero]

Have you ever seen a sprinter in a TT when another rider passes them?

They're not allowed to slipstream, so I don't understand the point you're trying to make.

 

[taiwan]

Who would win, Cancellara or Cavendish, in a 200m one-on-one road race on a totally flat motorway with no wind?

Cavendish, easy.

 

[pedaling squares]

You think? I think Cavendish would just sit on his wheel. Without some type of obstacle in the road I can't see him simply riding Cav off his wheel without attacking. Whenever Cancellara attacked I think that Cavendish would be speedy enough to close the gap quickly and stay in the slipstream.

No way, no how could the mighty Cav respond to the quantity and quality of the attacks. They're just two different types of riders and this event is geared towards Canc.

 

[William H]

Cancellara.

There's no incentive for either of them to work on the front, so the initial part of the race would be Cancellara attacking constantly, interspersed with periods of them going extremely slowly. Eventually, I'd expect Cav to crack and Cancellara will ride off into the distance.

 

[elapid]

in a 200km one-on-one road race on a totally flat motorway with no wind?

Obviously such a race would never happen but I think it would help my understanding of the sport of cycling to know the answer.

Cancellara. No doubt.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

You think? I think Cavendish would just sit on his wheel. Without some type of obstacle in the road I can't see him simply riding Cav off his wheel without attacking. Whenever Cancellara attacked I think that Cavendish would be speedy enough to close the gap quickly and stay in the slipstream.

Dude it's not the same as in a peloton or like a PCM game.

1vs1 you can't just stay and "sit in his wheel. Cancellara could keep accelerating until Cavendish is dead, or ride such an increble pace for a long time that he cracks. In the belly of the peloton you can hide completely from the wind. In 2nd wheel however you can't. And certainly in 200km you'll feel it.

 

[hfer07]

is that a real question?

Cancellara indisputably annihilates Cavendish with a time gap close to an hour

 

[The Hitch]

Slipstream is a lot smaller when its 1 rider and hes trying to drop you. Cav is used to a team of 5 FRIENDS pulling him. Not to have Spartacus tt in front of him

In such a race Canc's best tactic would be just stop. He knows in a 200k tt he can take probably about 10 mins from Cav if not more.

If Cav goes give 30 seconds or so and fly past as he makes the catch. If Cav manages to hang on try and try again.

If Cav stops with Canc, then wait a bit and go. Once again, try and try again.

This is just 1 fun tactic. there are so many other ways he can drop cav over 200k.


The fairer fight would be 10k. Now there we could see if Canc could make the drop.

And as i suggested in another thread this should be incorporated into GTs with a pick your poison match. From top too halfway on the GC every rider picks another rider to face off against pver a 10k distance. If you win your pick your poison you get a minute on gc/ points in kom/ points in green jersey. If you lose you dont. Preferably done on same day as short sprinter stage.

 

[ingsve]

I stand corrected. I overestimated the advantage of sitting on wheel when only one on one.

 

[Fowsto Cope-E]

Dude it's not the same as in a peloton or like a PCM game.

1vs1 you can't just stay and "sit in his wheel. Cancellara could keep accelerating until Cavendish is dead, or ride such an increble pace for a long time that he cracks. In the belly of the peloton you can hide completely from the wind. In 2nd wheel however you can't. And certainly in 200km you'll feel it.

But the question is if Cancellara is really that strong to the point that he can drop another Tour-caliber rider. Of course after 200k, Cav would feel it, but won't Fabien be feeling it as well?

 

[titleshot]

This is an awesome joke thread. Have you ever seen cavendish in a breakaway or make an acceleration other than in the last 1km? Cavendish cant time trial. So if cancellara got a gap he would never catch back up....

 

[Mambo95]

This is an awesome joke thread. Have you ever seen cavendish in a breakaway or make an acceleration other than in the last 1km? Cavendish cant time trial. So if cancellara got a gap he would never catch back up....

Yeah, in the Commonwealth Games RR, where he rode his backside off.

Plus, he's a double madison World Champion.

And he can time-trial when he needs to, at least over short distances. He's won a couple of prologues in the past.

I'd still have my money on Cancellara though.

 

[Fowsto Cope-E]

This is an awesome joke thread. Have you ever seen cavendish in a breakaway or make an acceleration other than in the last 1km? Cavendish cant time trial. So if cancellara got a gap he would never catch back up....

How is Cancellara going to get a gap if he is being pursued by the person with the world's best acceleration?

 

[ferryman]

Did you watch Paris-Roubaix this year? He just, sorts of rides off in to the distance with 50K to go Same would happen on a pan flat course with Cav, assuming both had been sharing the wind at race speed up until then.

 

[Jukebox]

How is Cancellara going to get a gap if he is being pursued by the person with the world's best acceleration?

Cancellara can hold that pace for much, much, much, much longer than cav. Sure cav could catch back up, but once he did he'd get dropped from the high pace almost immediately since he wouldnt be able to recover sitting second wheel.

 

[ferryman]

Cancellara can hold that pace for much, much, much, much longer than cav. Sure cav could catch back up, but once he did he'd get dropped from the high pace almost immediately since he wouldnt be able to recover sitting second wheel.

Indeedly, the build up of fast twitch lactic from the catch ups ends this race ugly.