BroDeal said:
No, our positions are quite a bit different. Even though I like Landis, I have no problem admitting that he doped.
Again your assumption is of the mark. I just re-read my posts to be sure, and I have not commented to date on what I believe in Floyd's case.
In the end, and if you trust Châtenay-Malabry, exogenous testosterone was found in Floyd's blood. My assumption would be that the infinitesimal amounts detected are residual from a Tour build up "program", rather than actual doping during the event. Which doesn't mean that he, or any other rider didn't do that as well. You just can't level accusations without some modicum of proof. That is what testing is for. But there is the rub.
If I knew you were guilty of murder, and I tampered with or planted evidence to insure your conviction, am I a hero or a criminal? Should I get a medal, or should I go to jail? When a lab and an administrative authority subvert testing protocols and procedures to catch a big fish, is justice being served or shattered like a window?
The system is rife with conflict of interest. Do labs have a vested interest in making sure that a B sample substantiates their A sample assessment? Hmmm... I don't know. Ask Iban Mayo what he thinks. Does the UCI in it's dual role as Promoter and Policeman of international cycling waffle weekly on issues of political expediency? Hmmm... I don't know. Ask Alejandro ValVerde in a week or two what he thinks.
Does WADA need doping? Hmmm... Do police need criminals to remain viable? Why does **** Pound continue (long after he should) to vilify cycling in the press? Because cycling has the most comprehensive testing? What the net result of more comprehensive testing? A higher number (but not percentage!) of athletes testing positive? And the net result of more doping positives is? Oh yeah... more funding for WADA. While their Mission Statement may espouse lofty ideals pertaining fairness to sport; it seems fairly transparent that nailing another Marion Jones is their primary focus and motivation.
So back to Floyd... Did he dope during the TdF? I have no idea, but I also don't see much credible evidence. Was he positive for testosterone? Yes! Did it play a part in Stage 17? I don't believe so, no more than any other riders Tour preparation "program". Was his cycling career ground into dust between the slow moving wheels of justice, and the conflicting interests of WADA, USADA, ASO, the UCI, the CAS, the Labs, and the Press? I'd have to say that's my conclusion.
In the U.S. legal system, the stinger in the tail of subversion of justice is that the accused go free. It may not always be right, but it is the lever that maintains the balance of process and abuse. It's supposed to keep the playing field level. Compromising your integrity and allowing the end to justify the means is the same crime for all parties concerned.
Did Floyd cheat?... Yeah probably. Did they cheat to catch him?... It's more than likely. Was justice served?... Not really. Did Floyd get screwed by the process?... In my opinion; Absolutely!
All of which brings us back to the original inane question; Why does Floyd Landis Suck now? It kind of makes me feel silly for getting sucked into this myopic, and self absorbed debate. Who the hell are we to even ask? Let alone decide.