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Why I will always be a "fanboy" and proud of it

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Why is it any time Armstrong is being shown up as a liar, his defenders always turn it into a Lemond thread.

Always the same, LeMond doped because well, he just had to have doped, no evidence but yeah he definitely doped.

They seem to ignore the people in the know like Laurent Fignon who said it was possible to win clean in the 80s even though he doped himself.

Like Willy Voet who said there were clean top riders like Charly Mottet despite naming countless people who did dope.

Like Paul Koechli, who ran a clean team in Helvetia/La Suiise without any needles and said LeMond won the Tour clean. Before people say that was because he was his manager, Koechli never said Hinault won the tour clean and he was his manager too. Bernard Tapie, owner of the team said the only guys he knew that definitely didnt dope were LeMond and Bauer, not Hinault, not Bernard.

Like Peter Winnen who says it was possible to win clean in the 80s but everything changed with EPO.

These poster are not just refuting other posters, they are refuting guys from that period who were involved in cycling, people who have said they doped themselves or that doping was present.
 
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Dr. Maserati said:
What did you ever ask me that I did not produce?

Come on. I am tired of your games because they never end.
If end was close your clinic inmates came to try to rescue you. To much work.

I didn't talk to you dottore.
 
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Cobblestoned said:
Is your "Greg -weedsmoker- Lemond won them all clean, always clean" a kind of defiance, or do you really believe in that miracle ?
As I told you earlier, after all we know (perhaps you too) about cycling, only a kid believes in a clean Greg

st Ihr "Greg Lemond-weedsmoker-gewann sie alle sauber, immer sauber", eine Art von Trotz, oder glauben Sie wirklich, dass Wunder? - Wie ich sagte Ihnen bereits, nach allem was wir wissen (vielleicht auch) über das Radfahren nur ein Kind, glaubt an einen sauberen Greg eines träumenden stur Hasser.

means as much sense to a stray dog
 

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Cobblestoned said:
Come on. I am tired of your games because they never end.
If end was close your clinic inmates came to try to rescue you. To much work.

I didn't talk to you dottore.

So you couldn't find what I asked....... again.

It is really simple - if you have something to offer other than your opinion than you should back it up.
Its not a game that you were playing - and that you have lost, it was your credibility.
 
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pmcg76 said:
Why is it any time Armstrong is being shown up as a liar, his defenders always turn it into a Lemond thread.

Always the same, LeMond doped because well, he just had to have doped, no evidence but yeah he definitely doped.

They seem to ignore the people in the know like Laurent Fignon who said it was possible to win clean in the 80s even though he doped himself.

Like Willy Voet who said there were clean top riders like Charly Mottet despite naming countless people who did dope.

Like Paul Koechli, who ran a clean team in Helvetia/La Suiise without any needles and said LeMond won the Tour clean. Before people say that was because he was his manager, Koechli never said Hinault won the tour clean and he was his manager too. Bernard Tapie, owner of the team said the only guys he knew that definitely didnt dope were LeMond and Bauer, not Hinault, not Bernard.

Like Peter Winnen who says it was possible to win clean in the 80s but everything changed with EPO.

These poster are not just refuting other posters, they are refuting guys from that period who were involved in cycling, people who have said they doped themselves or that doping was present.

Don't hold your breath for an answer. You will notice that they all post the same stuff

rambling, impossible to understand screeds
never answer a direct question
post again and again the same claims that have been debunked again and again

I would defer to Dr Maserati
 
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Cobblestoned said:
Come on. I am tired of your games because they never end.
If end was close your clinic inmates came to try to rescue you. To much work.

I didn't talk to you dottore.

Answer man we need answers!
 
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Dr. Maserati said:
So you couldn't find what I asked....... again.

It is really simple - if you have something to offer other than your opinion than you should back it up.
Its not a game that you were playing - and that you have lost, it was your credibility.

Yes, thats exactely how your game works.
You even claimed to be the winner at same time I was sleeping or working.
"Look, I am still here, he refuses answering me now and I had the last word. I won."
Again: Play with other people who are not tired of your games and gamerules.
I leave you alone - you leave me alone.
 
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Benotti69 said:
st Ihr "Greg Lemond-weedsmoker-gewann sie alle sauber, immer sauber", eine Art von Trotz, oder glauben Sie wirklich, dass Wunder? - Wenn seine Verachtung für seine ok mir und verständlich, wenn nicht, warum sollte Fanboys und andere Plakate nehmen Sie und Ihre babbledibabble ernst weitere? - Wie ich sagte Ihnen bereits, nach allem was wir wissen (vielleicht auch) über das Radfahren nur ein Kind, glaubt an einen sauberen Greg eines träumenden stur Hasser. oder __________________


means as much sense to a rabiddog;)

That is your answer ? Thank you.
 

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Cobblestoned said:
Yes, thats exactely how your game works.
You even claimed to be the winner at same time I was sleeping or working.
"Look, I am still here, he refuses answering me now and I had the last word. I won."
Again: Play with other people who are not tired of your games and gamerules.
I leave you alone - you leave me alone.
I would ask you to back up what you just wrote, but......

Again to the highlighted, very simple.
No - I have no problem backing up what I write and I expect you to do the same.
 
flicker said:
What the heck is a fan-boy anyway? My guess it is anyone who is a fan of someone. What harm is it to be a fan of someone?

"FanBoy" is a term created here on the Forum by Initially designed to dismiss the blind hero worshiper whose knowledge of cycling they have deemed unworthy. It is now ubiquitously used and cleverly designed to derail any attempts at logic and debate. It is used to express frustration and discontent that you would dare to challenge collective opinions of this small group of Forum contributors whose annual post count most likely exceeds their cycling mileage. Generally a dismissive term, it is used liberally as a means to declare an irrational and symbolic victory by these posters who need ego gratification when attempts at reason and decorum have completely escaped and left them feeling vulnerable and exposed.
 
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VeloFidelis said:
"FanBoy" is a term created here on the Forum by a morally superior group of posters. Initially designed to dismiss the blind hero worshiper whose knowledge of cycling they have deemed unworthy. It is now ubiquitously used and cleverly designed to derail any attempts at logic and debate. It is used to express frustration and discontent that you would dare to challenge collective opinions of this small group of Forum contributors whose annual post count most likely exceeds their cycling mileage. Generally a dismissive term, it is used liberally as a means to declare an irrational and symbolic victory by these posters who need ego gratification when attempts at reason and decorum have completely escaped , and left them feeling vulnerable and exposed.

Beautiful. Brought a tear to my eye.
 
VeloFidelis said:
"FanBoy" is a term created here on the Forum by a morally superior group of posters. Initially designed to dismiss the blind hero worshiper whose knowledge of cycling they have deemed unworthy. It is now ubiquitously used and cleverly designed to derail any attempts at logic and debate. It is used to express frustration and discontent that you would dare to challenge collective opinions of this small group of Forum contributors whose annual post count most likely exceeds their cycling mileage. Generally a dismissive term, it is used liberally as a means to declare an irrational and symbolic victory by these posters who need ego gratification when attempts at reason and decorum have completely escaped and left them feeling vulnerable and exposed.

I think quite often it is a term which is used out of frustration when the same people continue to regurgitate the same worn out fables about their idol.
 
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JMBeaushrimp said:
Good enough. How about 'hater' now? I'm starting a dictionary...

Hater (plural: haterz, slang: hatiz, verb form: hate on) : Shows some skepticism about whether Lance Armstrong won any of his Tours de France cleanly. Must love cancer. Also skeptical about the purpose of the Lance Armstrong Foundation. Hates cycling. Hates everything. Should do more cycling and spend less time on Cyclingnews forums. Regularly clashes in internet forums with fanboys. Incapable of believing in miracles. Refuses to drink certain types of kool-aid. See: Anti-Armstrong brigade.
 
AngusW said:
Hater (plural: haterz, slang: hatiz, verb form: hate on) : Shows some skepticism about whether Lance Armstrong won any of his Tours de France cleanly. Must love cancer. Also skeptical about the purpose of the Lance Armstrong Foundation. Hates cycling. Hates everything. Should do more cycling and spend less time on Cyclingnews forums. Regularly clashes in internet forums with fanboys. Incapable of believing in miracles. Refuses to drink certain types of kool-aid. See: Anti-Armstrong brigade.

Beautiful. Brought a tear to my eye. :cool:
 
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AngusW said:
Hater (plural: haterz, slang: hatiz, verb form: hate on) : Shows some skepticism about whether Lance Armstrong won any of his Tours de France cleanly. Must love cancer. Also skeptical about the purpose of the Lance Armstrong Foundation. Hates cycling. Hates everything. Should do more cycling and spend less time on Cyclingnews forums. Regularly clashes in internet forums with fanboys. Incapable of believing in miracles. Refuses to drink certain types of kool-aid. See: Anti-Armstrong brigade.

Would that be Grape Smuggler Kool-Aid?