Widar Wonderkid

[Brullnux]

I think a lot of it is unknown. What we do know is that Widar's acceleration uphill is absurd.

 

[hayneplane]

Of the races he is slated for next year I like what he could do in Flèche Wallone as that kind of punchy effort could be a good fit.

 

[Didinho]

Good way to end his U23 career. Hopefully for a good start with the pros.

 

[Mayomaniac]

So, how long until he breaks his contract?

 

[elguapo]

U23 talents look too promising. WT teams soon to fastrack retirement of their 30+ riders.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

So there were cameras recording. They even deployed a helicopter. Where is the full coverage, where was the live broadcast? Pathetic.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBrfHUSGdyk

 

[Samamba]

“Zevende? Tja, maar er zat niks op mijn benen”: prijs voor ‘Meest Ontwapenende Analyse’ in Ronde van de Algarve is voor... Jarno Widar

Op de slotdag van de Ronde van de Algarve zette Juan Ayuso (23) de kroon op het werk: rit- én eindwinst. Hij en zijn dichtste belager Paul Seixas komen zo meteen aan het woord. Eerst willen we u volgend, doodeerlijk gesprekje met Jarno Widar boven op Alto do Malhão niet onthouden. Hoeveel...

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Positive: he was 7th with bad legs, so can do better
Negative: he doesn't now why he was feeling bad this week. He's always been mediocre in his first races, but normally he knows why (for example sickness just before his first race last season)

 

[Samamba]

So got sick after Algarve, tried Saturday in Ardeche but felt bad, first competition block over as no Laigueglia or Strade either. Bad start of the season but not the first time for him.

 

[Berniece]

So got sick after Algarve, tried Saturday in Ardeche but felt bad, first competition block over as no Laigueglia or Strade either. Bad start of the season but not the first time for him.

Now to altitude for Basque and spring classics?

 

[Samamba]

Now to altitude for Basque and spring classics?

Unless he ads something to his race schedule (like I don't know Milano Torino would be interesting if it ends on Superga again?) yes. Does Indurain just before Basque I think.

 

[Didinho]

If there’s one race I would’ve like him to skip with sickness it was Strade. He could do well there but don’t know his bike skills on gravel. Could also end up bad.

Just want him to be fully healthy for Huy and Liege.

 

[Samamba]

If there’s one race I would’ve like him to skip with sickness it was Strade. He could do well there but don’t know his bike skills on gravel. Could also end up bad.

I agree, I don't mind it. I get he wants to try and ride it, for experience, but it's a very dangerous race and he's not ready to get a result in it anyways.

More sad about Ardeche/Drome and Laigueglia, those were races I wanted to see him good in as they suit him a lot.

 

[SafeBet]

Unless he ads something to his race schedule (like I don't know Milano Torino would be interesting if it ends on Superga again?) yes.

Superga finish is confirmed.

 

[repre]

To be honest, i don't get the hype about Widar. Yes, he has a great punch, but what he can do at high level besides that?

 

[Berniece]

Unless he ads something to his race schedule (like I don't know Milano Torino would be interesting if it ends on Superga again?) yes. Does Indurain just before Basque I think.

That would fall in the middle of an altitude session. So doubt he'll add that.

 

[Samamba]

To be honest, i don't get the hype about Widar. Yes, he has a great punch, but what he can do at high level besides that?

Then i'm assuming you also don't understand the hype about any other guy that is very good at u23 or junior level? Not saying he isn't a bit overrated or overhyped, but it's kinda normal there's interest in a guy who has the results he had at youth level.

That would fall in the middle of an altitude session. So doubt he'll add that.

Yeah doubt it too, but it's just that these are the kind of races I would like to see him in. I really feel like he skips a step. From u23 level races to WT level races, barely anything .1 or .Pro cause he did an extra u23 year and now doesn't want to wait before doing WT races.

 

[repre]

Then i'm assuming you also don't understand the hype about any other guy that is very good at u23 or junior level? Not saying he isn't a bit overrated or overhyped, but it's kinda normal there's interest in a guy who has the results he had at youth level.

Wow, calm down.

What is his ceiling? F-W winner?

He is not GC guy, he is not cobbles guy, he is not a sprinter.

Just a good puncher.

Thread title literally says 'wonderkind', when Widar is a glorified Ben Hermans.

If you say he can win or podium GT i'm listening.

 

[Berniece]

Yeah doubt it too, but it's just that these are the kind of races I would like to see him in. I really feel like he skips a step. From u23 level races to WT level races, barely anything .1 or .Pro cause he did an extra u23 year and now doesn't want to wait before doing WT races.

I agree. It makes sense to do some WT races this year, but 80% should be focused on .1 and some .Pro races.

 

[Samamba]

Wow, calm down.

What is his ceiling? F-W winner?

He is not GC guy, he is not cobbles guy, he is not a sprinter.

Just a good puncher.

Thread title literally says 'wonderkind', when Widar is a glorified Ben Hermans.

If you say he can win or podium GT i'm listening.

Where am I not calm lol. I just think it's a very weird statement. Look at his u23 palmares. EC, Baby Giro, LBL, Alpes Isere, Isard, Valle d'Aosta twice, 2nd in Avenir (behind the biggest talent of the last x years, beating him twice in mountain stages). Obviously it's completely normal for there to be some hype.

Like I said, overhyped is different, I agree in the sense that great u23 results don't mean he will ever be close to GC succes in GTs, but that's the case with like 90% of talents nowadays.

Saying glorified Ben Hermans is just ridiculous and you know it. Taking the piss for no reason. No reason to discuss anything with you then.

 

[Salvarani]

To be honest, i don't get the hype about Widar. Yes, he has a great punch, but what he can do at high level besides that?

We will see, maybe he will find it harder in the pros to be a winner compared to what he did in the youth ranks.

A bit early to rule him out though.

 

[repre]

Where am I not calm lol. I just think it's a very weird statement. Look at his u23 palmares. EC, Baby Giro, LBL, Alpes Isere, Isard, Valle d'Aosta twice, 2nd in Avenir (behind the biggest talent of the last x years, beating him twice in mountain stages). Obviously it's completely normal for there to be some hype.

Like I said, overhyped is different, I agree in the sense that great u23 results don't mean he will ever be close to GC succes in GTs, but that's the case with like 90% of talents nowadays.

Saying glorified Ben Hermans is just ridiculous and you know it. Taking the piss for no reason. No reason to discuss anything with you then.

If he won't have success in GTs then where he will? Ardennes and that's all. Stevie Williams has won F-W and nobody called him wonderkind.

If i would call Widar the next Stevie would you call me ridiculous? He even has TDU GCm which seems like a good ceiling for Widar.

 

[Berniece]

If he won't have success in GTs then where he will? Ardennes and that's all. Stevie Williams has won F-W and nobody called him wonderkind.

If i would call Widar the next Stevie would you call me ridiculous? He even has TDU GCm which seems like a good ceiling for Widar.

I think it's way too premature to say where Widar's ceiling might be.

 

[Samamba]

If he won't have success in GTs then where he will? Ardennes and that's all. Stevie Williams has won F-W and nobody called him wonderkind.

If i would call Widar the next Stevie would you call me ridiculous? He even has TDU GCm which seems like a good ceiling for Widar.

I don't call and have never called Widar a wonderkid.

You have called him a glorified Ben Hermans tho.

And yes I would call you ridiculous. While Stevie Williams is talented (and we will never know here his ceiling will be given his body seemed to haven given up), his results at youth level were nowhere near those of Widar. There is right now absolutely no reason to think Widars ceiling isn't higher than that of Williams, or that his ceiling is the fricking TDU.

Anyways like I said, you're obviously taking the piss here and I won't let this thread become a troll thread like Remco's where 50% of posts are from people who just like to hate on "overhyped" Belgian riders. This dude has been a pro for 2 months, hasn't been actually fit for more than a few race days and you are already trolling.