Wiggins, a man in love!

[Zam_Olyas]

Dr.Mas talks about being insightful, you wont get much worst than Alan Freaking Shearer can you? ..even though i have no opinion on wiggins bradley on tv.

 

[Ferminal]

The only other GT winner in recent years to have such a spectacular rise and fall is Juan José Cobo.

Aitor Gonzalez? A Pescheux special.

 

[King Boonen]

People seem to be confusing the under-fire, stressed-out tour leader Bradley Wiggins who is fed up answering the same questions and dealing with the same accusations with the, witty, stylish, national treasure Bradley Wiggins who the British public will believe if he tells them bikes would be better with square wheels.

Take away the questions and scrutiny and Wiggins would be just fine as a pundit/commentator/expert for cycling on British television.

 

[Michele]

Wiggins' TTing (at least over longer distances) as a scrawny climber was far in excess of the standard he showed when a pure TT specialist. His TT got way better at the same time as his climbing legs appeared from out of nowhere.

Exactly, he was a sort of favourite for the short TT or prologues but then suddenly turned into a very complete GC rider when he lost weight.

 

[William H]

Eh, Wiggins' prologue performances don't seem like they were all that much in excess of his long TTs to me. I mean, neither of them were particularly good really, but in his best pre-'09 road form he got 4th in the '07 prologue and 4th in the '07 long TT to Albi (edit:Well, 5th including Vino).

Wiggins the Prologue specialist was assumed because of his pursuit results, but he never lived up to it especially. Probably the technical nature of many of the courses hurt him.

 

[The Hitch]

People seem to be confusing the under-fire, stressed-out tour leader Bradley Wiggins who is fed up answering the same questions and dealing with the same accusations with the, witty, stylish, national treasure Bradley Wiggins who the British public will believe if he tells them bikes would be better with square wheels.

Take away the questions and scrutiny and Wiggins would be just fine as a pundit/commentator/expert for cycling on British television.

Yeah and Wiggins was allegedly also under continous pressure for those 3 years where he attacked those who questioned Armstrong and defended that ******bag. Especially when he accused Landis of making it up.

The guy had no sympathy for other tdf winners when he said they all deserve to be held under suspicion, why should the same luxury be granted to him?

What behaviour of Wiggins will not get explained by - oh he was under pressure cos he was trying to win a sports event. At what point does a heavily romanticized celebrity in his 30's take responsibility for his actions. *In the real world people have to take responsibility at 18 at the latest yet for Wiggins the fanboys demand that absolutely every time he does something bad it be stricken from the record

 

[King Boonen]

Yeah and Wiggins was allegedly also under continous pressure for those 3 years where he attacked those who questioned Armstrong and defended that ******bag. Especially when he accused Landis of making it up.

The guy had no sympathy for other tdf winners when he said they all deserve to be held under suspicion, why should the same luxury be granted to him?

What behaviour of Wiggins will not get explained by - oh he was under pressure cos he was trying to win a sports event. At what point does a heavily romanticized celebrity in his 30's take responsibility for his actions. *In the real world people have to take responsibility at 18 at the latest yet for Wiggins the fanboys demand that absolutely every time he does something bad it be stricken from the record

I think you misunderstand my post. Those aren't necessarily my views and I'm not trying to defend his past actions and comments, they are the views of the general British public who, realistically, only care about cycling in July and at the Olympics, and as such make him a perfect candidate for punditry work (I very much doubt he'd be a good presenter).

I have an acquaintance on the Wigan Warriors coaching staff who has met him a few times and I've heard he is extremely easy going and fun to talk to.

 

[martinvickers]

Yeah and Wiggins was allegedly also under continous pressure for those 3 years where he attacked those who questioned Armstrong and defended that ******bag. Especially when he accused Landis of making it up.

The guy had no sympathy for other tdf winners when he said they all deserve to be held under suspicion, why should the same luxury be granted to him?

What behaviour of Wiggins will not get explained by - oh he was under pressure cos he was trying to win a sports event. At what point does a heavily romanticized celebrity in his 30's take responsibility for his actions. *In the real world people have to take responsibility at 18 at the latest yet for Wiggins the fanboys demand that absolutely every time he does something bad it be stricken from the record

Have to say, Hitch, that's a pretty perfect example of venting your own feelings and assuming the general GB public shares them. They really don't. Back away from your own dislike for a minute and you'll realise that.

Everyone who really follows track and field suspects strongly that Maurice Greene doped - hell, his once best friend, rival and training partner thinks so!

Now, Ato, for better or worse, has a slightly better rep than Greene. you may not believe in him, you may adopt the 'they all doped' position, that's your faith, that's fine, but generally? Ato has a better rep, not least because of the letter. Ato is also articulate and good copy - so he gets a nice pundit gig.

But you know what? Maurice got a nice pundit gig too! And he can't present for toffee.

So did known doper Séan Kelly of the 'calculations' and 'monotones'. And no doubt they all fold that nice gig into other nice little earners. Just like Redgrave, Colin Jackson, Mark Foster and all the rest. And Wiggins palmares is far better than all of these, possibly bar Kelly and Redgrave.

Wiggins may well not trust or like the media, but he's significantly more entertaining to listen to, not least because he has a slight loose cannon quality. If you don't like listening to him cause you hate the guy for in depth clinic reasons and his personality and back history, that's absolutely kosher and fine. I'm not arguing about the validity of what you think about the guy.

Just, please, stop assuming you reflect public opinion on the matter - you really, really don't, and it skews your analysis of what is likely to occur.


If he went for a pundit gig, they'd find one for him, be not afraid. and he'd then use that 'media' contacts to get his nice little earners flowing. And, short of a drugs bust post ex facto, the GB public will lap it up. He was an absolute rock star, for example, at Sports Personality 2012 - amid all that 2012 bling, Mo, Ennis, Murray et al. I know that may well stick in your throat, and i can understand that, but it doesn't stop it being true.

 

[thehog]

Nothing wrong with his anti-doping talk back in 2007. That was some of the most impressive and refreshing stuff to hear on the topic at the time. Well spoken too.

Agreed. He can be brutally honest at times. I like him a lot. His problem began to occur when he fell in love with Lance and started doping. He couldn't be so open then. Well he tried to be the same but it just sounded stupid.

 

[King Boonen]

Well, one more year of Wiggins, no doubt on a reduced programme then back to the track, so not long for you all to put up with him!

 

[SundayRider]

Would love to know how he can just put on/lose weight at seemingly the click of his fingers!

 

[bunnyhop]

Well, one more year of Wiggins, no doubt on a reduced programme then back to the track, so not long for you all to put up with him!

quite wisely - get your Tour win, cash in, and let the clinic allegations fall onto someone else

 

[cineteq]

quite wisely - get your Tour win, cash in, and let the clinic allegations fall onto someone else

Not as greedy as Lance, and he gets to keep the titles.

 

[Benotti69]

THe latter has absolutely no bearing on the former, Benotti, sorry - Class A c*nts are in fact perfect media animals. See Boardman, C. Or for that matter Lawrenson, M, Willey B, Botham I, Hussain N, Greene Alan, Collymore S, Keane R, etc, etc, etc.

Hell, in my own country we make f***ing saints out of such loudmouth gobsh!tes - George Hook, Eamon Dumphy

Doesn't need to - and remember, this is a public that happily have kept Liggitt and Porter in jobs for decades.

Seriously, leave you bias at the door, and recognise the reality.

No bias. In order to have a bias one has to favour another, i dont.

Yes you have listed plenty of types who are crap pundits.

Wiggins, in my opinion, has a attitude akin to Liam Gallagher and that does not make a pundit.

But next year i maybe proven wrong as he appears to have given up road racing so will be available to do punditry on the TdF.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

People seem to be confusing the under-fire, stressed-out tour leader Bradley Wiggins who is fed up answering the same questions and dealing with the same accusations with the, witty, stylish, national treasure Bradley Wiggins who the British public will believe if he tells them bikes would be better with square wheels.

Take away the questions and scrutiny and Wiggins would be just fine as a pundit/commentator/expert for cycling on British television.

No, the confusion (since clarified) was that he could earn more money in the media than he currently earns as a rider.

Cycling is not that mainstream to do so unless he worked every media gig going - and I do not see him doing road commentary.
He would be a pretty good pundit for track. But thats one week a year and there are others who could offer more value for money, like Hoy or even Pendleton.
Sure, he will get rolled out for Olympics etc, but it will be a small side earner.

 

[the sceptic]

"I can't put all this weight on and then suddenly lose muscle and do GC again. Anyway, the next person in line, the natural successor, is Richie Porte. He really is the next one who could potentially win the Tour."

So the weight loss miracle only works once?

 

[Dr. Maserati]

So the weight loss miracle only works once?

You might have a point if he said;
"I can't put all this weight on and then lose muscle and do GC again."
but he said;
"I can't put all this weight on and then suddenly lose muscle and do GC again."

 

[Benotti69]

So the weight loss miracle only works once?

Maybe egos are being kept in check.

 

[oldcrank]

Best of luck to Wiggo in his quest to become the greatest
cyclist in Olympic history. Not a bad idea to leave the pro
road scene before you get dragged down to the level of
lying, cheating scum like Alberto Contador.

 

[sniper]

Best of luck to Wiggo in his quest to become the greatest
cyclist in Olympic history. Not a bad idea to leave the pro
road scene before you get dragged down to the level of
lying, cheating scum like Alberto Contador.

wiggins has been a more proactive liar than contador, i'm afraid to observe.
you do remember the letter in which he drags his whole family into the equation, or his rant against inquiring journalists and fans, do you, or his emphatic love for armstrong?
contador never went there.

on the other hand, i agree with you that wiggo is wise to step out.
if he's financially safe, there's no reason for him to continue. if he got caught, he would be the biggest embarrassment in the history of cycling. bigger fail than lance. much bigger fail than contador.

 

[Stingray34]

The inside talk - and I am 'on the inside', thank you, your worship - is that Wiggo is ditching cycling to get Ocean Colour Scene back together.

Figures he can transform himself yet again. This time as a better guitarist than Steve Craddock.

From scaling climbs to climbing scales. What the fook?

If he fails he can always become the Poet Laureate Potty Mouth.

She walks in p****** f****** beauty.

 

[King Boonen]

No, the confusion (since clarified) was that he could earn more money in the media than he currently earns as a rider.

Cycling is not that mainstream to do so unless he worked every media gig going - and I do not see him doing road commentary.
He would be a pretty good pundit for track. But thats one week a year and there are others who could offer more value for money, like Hoy or even Pendleton.
Sure, he will get rolled out for Olympics etc, but it will be a small side earner.

No, that was your confusion, not everyones.

Pendleton is a nutcase by all accounts, Hoy maybe but I doubt he has the draw of Wiggins.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

No, that was your confusion, not everyones.

Pendleton is a nutcase by all accounts, Hoy maybe but I doubt he has the draw of Wiggins.

I am just going to borrow your earlier post and change some small details:

"People seem to be confusing the under-fire, stressed-out Olympic hope Victoria Pendleton who is fed up answering the same questions and dealing with the same accusations with the, witty, stylish, national treasure Victoria Pendleton who the British public will believe if she tells them bikes would be better with square wheels.

Take away the questions and scrutiny and Pendleto would be just fine as a pundit/commentator/expert for cycling on British television."

 

[mewmewmew13]

Best of luck to Wiggo in his quest to become the greatest
cyclist in Olympic history. Not a bad idea to leave the pro
road scene before you get dragged down to the level of
lying, cheating scum like Alberto Contador.

wow no intent there.....

 

[keeponrollin]

Not as greedy as Lance, and he gets to keep the titles.

That depends; is there a vial of blood sitting in a freezer somewhere that could get him in the future ?, or does Pat have a file on any other retrospective TUES we don't know about ???