Will Chris Boardman be on the French list for taking EPO.

[sniper]

Re: guess

i guess boardman never made the EPO list?

any other thoughts....

Mark L

for "other thoughts" to exist, there needs to be something of a starting thought.
i don't see one.

 

[Benotti69]

Re: guess

i guess boardman never made the EPO list?

any other thoughts....

Mark L

Former rider Jonathan Vaughters begs to differ......

But Boardman has been so critical of Sky's hiring of Leinders, Yates, Jullich, Knaven etc all people he would have known doped or enabled doping. Yes, the silence from Boardman about his friends at Brit Cycling aka TeamSky has been deafening.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Re: guess

i guess boardman never made the EPO list?

any other thoughts....

Mark L

Former rider Jonathan Vaughters begs to differ......

But Boardman has been so critical of Sky's hiring of Leinders, Yates, Jullich, Knaven etc all people he would have known doped or enabled doping. Yes, the silence from Boardman about his friends at Brit Cycling aka TeamSky has been deafening.

oh my god your simple brainless logic. I haven't been on all kinds of fora or media against white supremacy movements, does that make me a neo=nazi?

 

[The Hitch]

Re: guess

i guess boardman never made the EPO list?

any other thoughts....

Mark L

Yes.

To repeat what was said in this thread, explaining that, plenty of people who doped EPO weren't amongst those who had the samples retested.

Any other questions?

 

[Freddythefrog]

Wow - just finished after a long day. Sat down in front of the TV and just caught the last 15 minutes of the BBC hard talk news program. Chris Boardman was being interviewed by someone who thought he was being "hard" and Boardman was wetting himself with the questions.

"Is there any mechanical doping in the peloton ?"

"No, there is not. Only 1 bike has ever been found and all sorts of checks have been put in place to stop it. That bike was in cyclo-cross so no it is not in the main road peloton. I would be astonished if anyone had used a motor in a road bike." (OK I won't ask if he just stole the line that worked so well for Brailsford when he was told Lance had doped.)

So by that logic Femke is truly the cutting edge of doping technology. She beat the whole system, only to be caught at the final hurdle by the super sleuths of the UCI ! No Spartacus or Ryder. (How far back do JV and Boardman go - sharing rooms together ? )

It is worth a watch for seeing Boardman crack the odd smile when he is telling them. Boardman even stated that the problem of motors in bikes was electric gears and allowing cables in bikes - it encouraged the motors, oh hold on.... the motors that nobody has put in a racing bike.....errr wait..........

Boardman was even able to turn the Shane story on its head and now not only is Shane a victim of the press but he is as well. Well I never knew that ....

I could not stomach looking for it on the iplayer now but I think I will have a look tomorrow when I am more willing to sustain an assault on my intelligence.

"Hard Talk" - if they only knew ! Has anyone read his book ?

 

[sniper]

Boardman reaching omerta levels previously unknown to the peloton.
Chapeau.

The funny thing is, back in 2009, Boardman was one of the first to warn UCI of the possible use of motors.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/boardman-warned-the-uci-of-risks-of-bike-doping/
The fact that he's now going out on a limb to claim motors are not being used by pros only suggests his buddies are in fact using them.

You add it to his pathetic defense of Sutton and it goes to show Boardman is very aware that if Sky/BC's house of cards comes crashing down, he gets burried underneath it, too.

 

[fmk_RoI]

Chris Boardman on why TUEs are like..well, let's let Boardman explain it:

"How did we get to the situation where something is legal but people don't feel it's moral? It's like tax evasion and tax avoidance. Just because you get away with it, doesn't make it okay."

How we got to the situation where something is legal but people don't feel it's moral probably is like tax evasion and tax avoidance, a subject Boardman should be familiar with, having put £250,000 into Liberty's 'aggressive' tax avoidance scheme which 'manufactured' losses for its members to write off against their tax debts.

And Boardman on British Cycling/Sky's 'medalist' approach to standards:

"What's been amazing is that nobody has stood up and said look we've got the most successful team of any sport ever. Yes, you have things that go wrong in any business and you fix them. It's not a disaster by any means."

Really, no one has stood up and said that, absolutely no one, and if you say they have then all I can say is you've been duped by fake news.

 

[ontheroad]

So Boardman now reckons that Froome has become a statesman for the sport. The greatest clean cyclist ever has become the voice of all that is great and pure about this new generation. Thanks for that Chris.

 

[fmk_RoI]

Re:

So Boardman now reckons that Froome has become a statesman for the sport. The greatest clean cyclist ever has become the voice of all that is great and pure about this new generation. Thanks for that Chris.

He's an ITV 94 commentator alongside that clown Ned Boulting - how can you feign such shock and horror in the face of that?

 

[Benotti69]

Boardman has bikes to sell.

 

[fmk_RoI]

Re:

Boardman has bikes to sell.

Well, actually, he doesn't, as he sold the company and they only keep him on as a salaried face...

 

[Benotti69]

Re: Re:

Boardman has bikes to sell.

Well, actually, he doesn't, as he sold the company and they only keep him on as a salaried face...

He wants to collect his salary and no doubt his contract means he has to sell bikes via good pr and he might be on a bonus scheme to boot.......but dont let that stop pedants

 

[fmk_RoI]

Re: Re:

no doubt his contract means he has to sell bikes via good pr and he might be on a bonus scheme to boot

You've read his contract? Or are you just jumping to conclusions, as is your wont?

 

[Benotti69]

Re: Re:

no doubt his contract means he has to sell bikes via good pr and he might be on a bonus scheme to boot

You've read his contract? Or are you just jumping to conclusions, as is your wont?

Chris is my brother from another mother. Standard contract for when a company gets taken over a la Boardman bikes they keep the face of the brand on and that usually involves some 'work'. Keep on pedanting.

 

[sniper]

If our brother Chris wasn't a faithful church-going catholic yet I assume he became one immediately when finding out that his name wasn't on the French Senate's list of positives.

A very rare bit of luck.

Had he been on it he could've kissed goodbye to that 20 mil Halfords deal

 

[Benotti69]

"To be that good, for that long, that's special".

Chris Boardman's quote on the front a Miguel Indurain book by A Flufferingham.

Just in case anyone was wondering what Boardman thought of dopers.

 

[sniper]

The Fotheringhams still scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Boardman. Rumor is he shat himself purple when the French decided to retest 1998 samples.
Got a very lucky break there.

The more I think about it the more I doubt doping alone can explain his rise from donkey to racehorse in the run up to Barcelona and his subsequent successes in TTs.

The secret history of Lotus's bicycle.
It wasn't a motorcycle. It was a bicycle.

really?

Burrows's attempts to sell his design to a manufacturer were met with confusion. They didn't seem to understand what they were looking at. To make matters
worse, the UCI (Union Cycliste International, the cycling world's equivalent to the FIA) banned monocoque designs for competition, citing a desire to keep
the sport competitive.
(...)
In 1991 a restructuring of the UCI's regulations resulted in a new set of dimensional and geometric rules that effectively reopened the door for monocoque
designs. By happenstance, former Formula 2 racer and Lotus test driver Rudy Thomann had stumbled upon Burrows's design while visiting his shop. An avid cyclist, and by most accounts the entrepreneurial sort, Thomann brought Burrows's bicycle to the attention of the board at Lotus.

The project was a natural fit; Lotus's knowledge of aerodynamics and advanced composites made them the logical choice for development. Better yet, Great
Britain had their first hope for cycling gold in 72 years in Chris Boardman, a promising young athlete and the only threat to the World Champion at the time, Jens
Lehmann.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a7708/lotus-sport-108-secret-history-bicycle/
and also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_108

 

[sniper]

It's interesting that Boardman was filed as "missing" in the French senate's retesting results.

his sample is stated as 'missing'.
http://road.cc/content/news/89222-french-senate-names-1998-tour-de-france-dopers-ogrady-and-durand-confess

What are the odds?
Peter Keen is a very meticulous man.

 

[sniper]

How can his sample be positive or suspicious, if it's missing?
You keep saying you want to discuss.
Why don't you start by actually reading and reflecting on what other people post.

 

[sniper]

Fair enough.
So one more try:
How can his sample be positive or suspicious, if it's missing?
Discuss.

 

[fmk_RoI]

Re:

It's interesting that Boardman was filed as "missing" in the French senate's retesting results.

his sample is stated as 'missing'.
http://road.cc/content/news/89222-french-senate-names-1998-tour-de-france-dopers-ogrady-and-durand-confess

What are the odds?
Peter Keen is a very meticulous man.

What are the odds? Well, how many samples were there to begin with and how many other samples were recorded as missing? Math's not hard, once you've got the data...

 

[fmk_RoI]

Re:

The more I think about it the more I doubt doping alone can explain his rise from donkey to racehorse in the run up to Barcelona and his subsequent successes in TTs.

So is Boardman the new LeMond?

The problem with suggesting the Lotus was a motor is we're bringing more people into the conspiracy, people outside of cycling, and asking them to keep the secret, when there's nothing in it for them. Look at what happened to Lotus.

Was there a motor in the Aston Martin bike as well?

Also, this does suggest a lack of familiarity with the world of Burrows and the genesis of that bike.