Will Chris get desperate in 2015?

[rick james]

well we wouldn't know if he TUE or not, but the majority on here have him guilty already.

 

[daveyt]

But you wouldn't know if he had a TUE or not.

Not so simples.

One Tue was leaked to the press, he told us about another, would be stupid to lie about it knowing there was a leak. Obvs.

 

[thehog]

well we wouldn't know if he TUE or not, but the majority on here have him guilty already.

That would be 7 people, yes?

 

[Digger]

well we wouldn't know if he TUE or not, but the majority on here have him guilty already.

well yes - anyone who doesn't have the same level of brainpower as snot in a jar thinks froome is doping and has been since 2011 - right around the time he was about to be let go by sky for being sh**

 

[ralphbert]

That would be 7 people, yes?

7 out of (clinic) 12 is a clear majority

 

[thehog]

7 out of (clinic) 12 is a clear majority

We'd need 6 for quorum. If I get banned again we may not be able to pass a guilty motion on the Dawg.

 

[frenchfry]

Source? One was leaked and he said he'd had one last year I think? TUE's are medicine not doping, it's pathetic trying to twist it. You must know this which is why you have to exaggerate.

From what we have seen, TUE's are often where the line is crossed between medicine and doping.

 

[daveyt]

From what we have seen, TUE's are often where the line is crossed between medicine and doping.

Seen when and where? Which TUE's do we know about from the last 5 years that weren't appropriate?

 

[Mellow Velo]

But you wouldn't know if he had a TUE or not.

Not so simples.

Thanks. That was my point.
Not claiming anything.
Rather that as you point out, because we don't know makes the TUE a red herring.

 

[Mellow Velo]

What evidence do you have that Froome was not using TUEs at those other races?

Forgive me, but I'll reply to you in kind and make absolutely zero effort to answer your questions.

 

[TheSpud]

What evidence do you have that Froome was not using TUEs at those other races?

What evidence do you have that he was?

 

[ChrisE]

well we wouldn't know if he TUE or not, but the majority on here have him guilty already.

How would you know? Are you still in your crack induced freaky stage? If so, that would cloud your judgement. Plus, I thought you were dead. Super Freak, indeed.

 

[ChrisE]

From what we have seen, TUE's are often where the line is crossed between medicine and doping.

Doesn't everybody have asthma?

 

[the sceptic]

Seen when and where? Which TUE's do we know about from the last 5 years that weren't appropriate?

I dont think its appropriate to be doping on horse steroids while your competitors are not. I think it gave Froome an unfair advantage.

 

[ebandit]

I dont think its appropriate to be doping on horse steroids while your competitors are not.

How do you know they weren't?????????????????

Mark L

 

[the sceptic]

How do you know they weren't?????????????????

Mark L

No evidence.

Froome cheated, Mark. Live with it.

 

[ebandit]

No evidence

....in which case you cant say he had an unfair advantage

Froome cheated, Mark. Live with it.

Just a shame for you that there is

No evidence

Mark L

 

[thehog]

No evidence.

Froome cheated, Mark. Live with it.

Sounds like the defense is "Everyone was doing it, they've all got TUEs, it was a level playing field"

 

[thehog]

Thanks. That was my point.
Not claiming anything.
Rather that as you point out, because we don't know makes the TUE a red herring.

Hmmm... not sure what you're implying. if Froome needed Horse steriods to get better from sickness then he should have been in bed. If he needed to compete then you'd think he'd be at the back of the field and not ripping Nibali's legs off!

 

[ChrisE]

Why are horse steroids, or whatever kind of steroids, being discussed? Steroids give no advantage, unless they do.

 

[TailWindHome]

Steroids give no advantage, unless they do.

I'm fairly sure no one has argued that they don't.
These are powerful medicines.

 

[ChrisE]

I'm fairly sure no one has argued that they don't.
These are powerful medicines.

Maybe you should read some of the GL threads. You can also learn about the clinic timeline of EPO introduction as well while you are at it.

 

[sniper]

How do you know they weren't?????????????????

Mark L

if they were on it (which i agree is possible), then probably on smaller doses than Chris so as not to get caught, something Chris didn't need to worry about.
it was an unfair advantage one way or the other.

 

[the sceptic]

Sounds like the defense is "Everyone was doing it, they've all got TUEs, it was a level playing field"

I find it hard to believe random french guys are on horse steroids. Or Nibali for that matter.

First you need to fake an illness to get the TUE. I dont remember any other riders coming down with emergency illnesses like the Dawg did.

Secondly you need Zorzoli to sign it. I doubt he deals to the entire peloton.

So I do believe Dawg did get a very unfair atvantage there. If the UCI was transparent and fair they would take that win away from the Dawg.

 

[ebandit]

The only reason you know about Froomes Tue is because it was leaked....you have no idea whether other riders had a Tue so you've no basis for any comment

Mark L