Will Contador Be Juiced Up Again Upon His Return

[Don't be late Pedro]

Cycling is different

Why would you not dope to the same level and cover the shorter distance even quicker?

 

[Danilot]

Albert enjoying his juicy steaks again!

Nom nom nom nom nom!

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Riding Froome and co at +10 minutes.
I'd say Alberto is fine. Not totally as good as he was. But not far off either.

Valverde and Rodriguez were exceptional. But Valverde was weaker on most longer slopes and Rodriguez had 1 bad day that cost him.

Pretty sure that without Contador, the rest (place 4+) would be a lot closer to Valverde and Rodriguez because they keep waiting for the final 2km

 

[LaFlorecita]

Why would you not dope to the same level and cover the shorter distance even quicker?

It wasn't me who brought up the point I was merely stating what I think the guy meant.

Obviously incredibly hard races will force the riders to dope more.

 

[LaFlorecita]

which would make sense if riders were doping to reach the finish line and not to beat each other. . .

Why would you not dope to the same level and cover the shorter distance even quicker?

Why do you think I posted this

(or something like that)

I just posted what I thought the other person meant.

 

[LaFlorecita]

but good luck to sartoris and laflo ..........let the alberto fans have their fun
they deserve it after alberto's forced holiday

Thanks I do not care what people over here say I know Alberto is the best. They're just jealous

 

[Parrulo]

Why do you think I posted this



I just posted what I thought the other person meant.

i know what you meant. . . . . but have it your way

 

[Parrulo]

Thanks I do not care what people over here say I know Alberto is the best. They're just jealous

you are starting to sound just like wonderlance.

does alberto happen to be eating the paella of greatness and banging the macarena of awesomeness?

 

[LaFlorecita]

you are starting to sound just like wonderlance.

does alberto happen to be eating the paella of greatness and banging the macarena of awesomeness?

Wtf

 

[Parrulo]

i guess wonderlance is before your time. . .

him on LA haters:

I think you have this all wrong.

You are the one who is blind and connot see the truth in the world. You live sheltered in a monastry of your hate, and cannot admire beauty and truth while I snort the cocaine of excellence and bang the hooker of awesomeness.

in your defense i did mess up a bit my adaptation

 

[LaFlorecita]

i guess wonderlance is before your time. . .

him on LA haters:

in your defense i did mess up a bit my adaptation

I know about it. Krebs has quoted it many times.

 

[Falken]

Riding for Discovery and Astana, and having a history with lifetime banned Jose "Pepe" Marti, the Clenbuterol saga... What does Contador expect, that we should be totally gullible and believe he is clean? F**k that, Contador has brought it on himself, the reasonable stance for cycling fans is to be suspicious of his spectacular performances.

 

[Danilot]

If post-suspension Contador is just as good as pre-suspension Contador, we've all got the answer.

 

[Parrulo]

Evans has a very similar career path to contador being the positive the only ( and big) difference yet he is considered by many the second coming of the baby jesus and first clean tour winner in human history (hyperbole)

so exactly what is so different about them?

riding for dirty teams? check
connections to dirty doctors? check
being up there during dirty times? check
winning big races? check

only real difference are 50 pico grams of clentuberol per liter of blood apparently.

 

[ebandit]

el pistolero

Evans has a very similar career path to contador being the positive the only ( and big) difference yet he is considered by many the second coming of the baby jesus and first clean tour winner in human history (hyperbole)

so exactly what is so different about them?

riding for dirty teams? check
connections to dirty doctors? check
being up there during dirty times? check
winning big races? check

only real difference are 50 pico grams of clentuberol per liter of blood apparently.

this is the contador thread............but i'm excused as answer is moderator led

i for one moment don't think evans is clean...........do people believe in him because he is quiet

has he ever spoken out recently with an anti doping stance?

alberto is brash so is bound to upset some

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Alberto is brash so is bound to upset some

Really? He does not come across that way but then I don't speak Spanish. Do you have any examples?

 

[ebandit]

oops!

Really? He does not come across that way but then I don't speak Spanish. Do you have any examples?

sorry! i knew i would be misunderstood ................when i used brash i was referring to his riding style rather than being big headed as a person

brash compared with super dull evans

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

sorry! i knew i would be misunderstood ................when i used brash i was referring to his riding style rather than being big headed as a person

brash compared with super dull evans

Ah, thanks for clearing that up.

 

[Danilot]

Evans has a very similar career path to contador being the positive the only ( and big) difference yet he is considered by many the second coming of the baby jesus and first clean tour winner in human history (hyperbole).

Contador suddenly transformed from a decent climber who won a couple of second-tier races every year into a rider who won the Tour de France, dropping the world's best climbers bar a supercharged Chicken in the process.

On the other hand, Evans improved gradually, and had already won many major races and finished several times in the Top 10 of the Tour de France when he finally won the Grande Boucle.

I'm not saying Evans is clean or not, I'm just saying that there's a world of difference between his profile and Contador's.

 

[Walkman]

Evans has a very similar career path to contador being the positive the only ( and big) difference yet he is considered by many the second coming of the baby jesus and first clean tour winner in human history (hyperbole)

so exactly what is so different about them?

riding for dirty teams? check
connections to dirty doctors? check
being up there during dirty times? check
winning big races? check

only real difference are 50 pico grams of clentuberol per liter of blood apparently.

Don't embarrass yourself.

While what you say isn't incorrect you are just trying to make Evans look as bad as AC which is kind of lame. But whatever floats your boat.

 

[Cookster15]

Evans has a very similar career path to contador being the positive the only ( and big) difference yet he is considered by many the second coming of the baby jesus and first clean tour winner in human history (hyperbole)

so exactly what is so different about them?

riding for dirty teams? check
connections to dirty doctors? check
being up there during dirty times? check
winning big races? check

only real difference are 50 pico grams of clentuberol per liter of blood apparently.

Contador:
Unable to reproduce in 2009 Tour form in subsequent Tours. Check.
No satisfactory explanation for his reduced level in 2010 Tour. Check.
His best GT performance was in the Giro - the Italians / Italian police are not as strict on doping as the French. Check.
Being able to stay with Rasmussen in 2007. Check.
Riding for Discovery, the home of Pharmstrong. Check.
Wins the 2008 Giro after sitting on a beach. Check.

Evans:
Never picked by a dirty team to ride the Tour. Check (eg Telekom, Ulrich, 2004).
Quoted by some prominent Pros as being 'the only clean GC rider' (e.g. Boonen). Check.
Riding for Lotto who couldn't replicate Popovich's or Horner's form at Astana. Check.
Twice World Cup mountain bike champ. Check.
Highest Vo2 max ever scored in the AIS (while still a mountain biker). Check.
Only GC contender to look like he was truly suffering in 2007 on climbs. Check.
Won the stage to Mount Wellington in 1999 while still a mountain biker and at just 22 years of age. Check.

Ferrari took an interest in Evans when referred by Tony Rominger in his mountain bike days. It is well documented Evans impressed Ferrari further when he did some repeat mountain tests. This does not automatically make him guilty of doping. Evans performance on Mount Wellington in 1999 grabbed my attention too and well before I heard Phil Liggit say it.

There's very good reasons why Evan's was so revered especially by Aussie's or Anglophiles who for many years had no GC rider's to cheer for since Phil Anderson.

 

[BroDeal]

Don't embarrass yourself.

While what you say isn't incorrect you are just trying to make Evans look as bad as AC which is kind of lame. But whatever floats your boat.

Check out my "fun on Velocipede Salon" thread, where Evans, Green, Hesjedal, and such are called out for bringing blood vector doping to MTB.

 

[Parrulo]

Don't embarrass yourself.

While what you say isn't incorrect you are just trying to make Evans look as bad as AC which is kind of lame. But whatever floats your boat.

Contador:
Unable to reproduce in 2009 Tour form in subsequent Tours. Check.
No satisfactory explanation for his reduced level in 2010 Tour. Check.
His best GT performance was in the Giro - the Italians / Italian police are not as strict on doping as the French. Check.
Being able to stay with Rasmussen in 2007. Check.
Riding for Discovery, the home of Pharmstrong. Check.
Wins the 2008 Giro after sitting on a beach. Check.

Evans:
Never picked by a dirty team to ride the Tour. Check (eg Telekom, Ulrich, 2004).
Quoted by some prominent Pros as being 'the only clean GC rider' (e.g. Boonen). Check.
Riding for Lotto who couldn't replicate Popovich's or Horner's form at Astana. Check.
Twice World Cup mountain bike champ. Check.
Highest Vo2 max ever scored in the AIS (while still a mountain biker). Check.
Only GC contender to look like he was truly suffering in 2007 on climbs. Check.
Won the stage to Mount Wellington in 1999 while still a mountain biker and at just 22 years of age. Check.

Ferrari took an interest in Evans when referred by Tony Rominger in his mountain bike days. It is well documented Evans impressed Ferrari further when he did some repeat mountain tests. This does not automatically make him guilty of doping. Evans performance on Mount Wellington in 1999 grabbed my attention too and well before I heard Phil Liggit say it.

There's very good reasons why Evan's was so revered especially by Aussie's or Anglophiles who for many years had no GC rider's to cheer for since Phil Anderson.

thank you both for proving my point.

also lol at the bolded proves for evans being clean.

he rode the tour with bmc didn't he? isn't bmc like phonak 2.0?
prominent pros are still say armstrong is a clean hero.
apparently no doping going on on MTB i see. . . . cough brodeals thread cough
winning a race in 1999 at 22 is proof that he is clean? how is that so?

anyway this going a bit off topic, all i wanted to prove is how to almost similarly suspect cyclists are treated in a completely different way by the same people and i guess that has been done.

 

[the asian]

Contador:
Unable to reproduce in 2009 Tour form in subsequent Tours.- did what was necessary in 2010. was cooked up by the super hard Giro and the crashes in the 2011 Tour
.
His best GT performance was in the Giro - the Italians / Italian police are not as strict on doping as the French.- Who banned Valverde and did not allow him to ride in Italy when he was free to ride in France?
-Who launced the initial investigation in to Ferrari and banned their riders form seeing him, when riders of other countries could?
- Who launched the Mantova Investigation


Evans:
Never picked by a dirty team to ride the Tour. Check (eg Telekom, Ulrich, 2004). - Won his only GT riding for BMC . If you think BMC is clean check who the owner and GM are


Ferrari took an interest in Evans when referred by Tony Rominger in his mountain bike days. It is well documented Evans impressed Ferrari further when he did some repeat mountain tests. This does not automatically make him guilty of doping. Evans performance on Mount Wellington in 1999 grabbed my attention too and well before I heard Phil Liggit say it.

.

Ferrari provided training plans to Cadel, and is confirmed by both Cadel and Ferrari.
Anybody who has followed cycling knows what Ferrari's training plans are.

He may have less baggage than Contador but he certainly aint no saint as the Anglophones are making him out to be.

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Check out my "fun on Velocipede Salon" thread, where Evans, Green, Hesjedal, and such are called out for bringing blood vector doping to MTB.

Who is the guy that it outing them?