Will Contador Be Juiced Up Again Upon His Return

[Cavendash]

Well they're letting a Belgian, Kenyan, Australian and Columbian win, why not an American? After all the Brits are always keen to mention 'the special realtionship' between us and them, that they think exists. So if they don't let Joe 'win' next year we should write to our Congressmen and the President to apply pressure on the limeys.

Only our politicians say that...

In reality most Brits just like the rest of the planet cant stand the yanks... Loud, brash, arrogant and extremely ignorant/thick are the just a few of the reasons why.

 

[Ferminal]

So now he's exhausted and won't ride the Ardennes.

With the imaginary flu that's two times that clentadope has gone away to bank his blood.

Why do you think he's doping now?

 

[dolophonic]

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-Berzin

 

[LaFlorecita]

So now he's exhausted and won't ride the Ardennes.

With the imaginary flu that's two times that clentadope has gone away to bank his blood.

Have you counted the number of riders who were ill the last few weeks? In Saxobank alone already 5 that I know of.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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-Berzin

 

[hrotha]

Have you counted the number of riders who were ill the last few weeks? In Saxobank alone already 5 that I know of.

5 in Saxo alone? Is that supposed to make us less suspicious?

(Who are they, anyway?)

 

[LaFlorecita]

5 in Saxo alone? Is that supposed to make us less suspicious?

(Who are they, anyway?)

Alberto, Jesus, Cantwell, Bennati and Matti (I think) I guess those classic guys got "ill" on purpose just so they could prepare their blood bags for more important goals later in the season!

 

[lean mean &green]

It's a statement of fact? He will not win if he's not better than the Vuelta last year.

I hope that Contador does dope to the level required to compete for the win as I very much enjoy watching him race.

This statement suggests you need to take a serious look at your priorities. You hope that someone blatantly and egregiously breaks the rules of fair sport for YOUR entertainment?

You don't need to rationalize that everyone else is doing it, professional sport is just entertainment, blah blah blah. It's time to take a step back.

 

[Puckfiend]

I like Americans. They're cool.

Why, thank you. I think! I could be to "ignorant/thick" to know if that is a compliment; or not!

 

[thehog]

So now he's exhausted and won't ride the Ardennes.

With the imaginary flu that's two times that clentadope has gone away to bank his blood.

No room for the milk and cheese in the fridge.

 

[GJB123]

In answer top the original question posed. Do bears sh!t in the woods and is the Pope Roman-Catholic?

In all seriousness, I would be surprised if he now rides completely clean, but I would expect him to have turned it down a notch or 2 (surely for much of the season) and thus rides cleaner (I know the use of the word "cleaner" will get me in the bad books with the Clinic 12 ).

 

[Poursuivant]

No room for the milk and cheese in the fridge.

Or steak...

 

[Cookster15]

So with all the talk of Froome versus Contador for the TDF, I think this thread deserves resurrection. The Contador since last years Vuelta is still the same Contador earlier this season - less formidible.

A 2011 Giro Contador would be favourite for the Tour. But we haven't seen that rider for two full years now. Considering AC should be in his peak years now that is hard to explain without unnatural causes (pre ban).

From an excitement perspective a Contador Tour win is preferable, but the recent form guide says Froome deserves strong favouritism.

The tragedy is despite the advent of the Blood Passport, it is still Impossible to know these days who is clean or not. I believe the UCI anti doping controversy stance as opposed to anti doping stance might be the problem here. I also suspect fans impression of ACs strengths today might be gleaned from past (doped) performances and less relevent to today's reality.

 

[The Hitch]

The Contador we have seen so far these season wont even make the top 10 at the tour.

2012 vuelta contador may struggle with the podium. If Contador beats everyone else, i would say its an improvement on the 2012 vuelta contador even if he loses to vroome.

 

[taiwan]

I think that McQuaid's request for the Puerto BBs indicates that Contador is outside the establishment now and will not be allowed to juice to the spectacular levels of 2010. He will still fight though. Froome may not quite be at 2012 levels either, but I suppose we'll see at the Dauphinee. If there were other strong candidates riding, I could see an upset an neither favourite winning. Finally Andy's time?

 

[TourOfTexas]

After seeing how well other dopers are doing this year, I think Contador is going to take some risks and come back a little better than 2012 Vuelta form. But, it won't be enough to thwart Sky's advanced doping program.

 

[BroDeal]

I am laying bets right now that Contador will be in top form at the Tour. Froome Dawg is going down.

 

[Samson777]

I think that McQuaid's request for the Puerto BBs indicates that Contador is outside the establishment now and will not be allowed to juice to the spectacular levels of 2010. He will still fight though. Froome may not quite be at 2012 levels either, but I suppose we'll see at the Dauphinee. If there were other strong candidates riding, I could see an upset an neither favourite winning. Finally Andy's time?

Andy allready got his tour win, thanks to Contador

A good bet for another candidate is rodriguez. Katusha is doing quite well with the doping I believe, they had a good run so far this season.

 

[veganrob]

Contador has proven that he comes to a GT prepared to win. Arguably his worst race was 2012 Vuelta, which he won anyway despite no prep races. Pretty damn good imo. I am discounting the 2011 Tour as he was tired and got beat up pretty early from crashes. Yet he still provided the best fireworks of the race.
No doubt, he will be ready for this Tour and will take no prisoners.

 

[airstream]

I think Froome is simply better physically. Doping has nothing or minimum to do with that.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I think Froome is simply better physically. Doping has nothing or minimum to do with that.

yea we know that by now

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

I think Froome is simply better physically. Doping has nothing or minimum to do with that.

I am very interested in your arguments for this statement. Care to share your thoughts with us?

 

[spalco]

I am laying bets right now that Contador will be in top form at the Tour. Froome Dawg is going down.

I agree with the first sentence. But I think even top-form Contador will have a fight on his hands against Froome in he Tour.

 

[airstream]

I am very interested in your arguments for this statement. Care to share your thoughts with us?

What arguments can have the sphere in which we know nothing or almost nothing? In the years Contador dominated he apparently had the doping edge, he wasted one of his chances so he should handle the fact that one possibly has doping edge now very patiently so...I don't feel any compassion to him and any censure to his rivals, who probably has an advantage in products. That's how this world works and he knows it.

Only don't boil down this to talent pls. Talent is ...only a bit of a help, a part of success. There are no untalented riders in top-5 of GTs.

I treat Contador and Froome as 2 equal units. They are equally entitle to win and their wins are equally legitimate. Arguing my opinion, you simply go against this equality. It's cycling, not despotism. Any cyclist sooner or later faces a stronger cyclist. The law of life.

Ok, just a question, why do you think that a better than Contador rider (let's assume they use the same doping) can not hit the scene?

 

[FrankChickens]

Only don't boil down this to talent pls. Talent is ...only a bit of a help, a part of success. There are no untalented riders in top-5 of GTs.

I treat Contador and Froome as 2 equal units. They are equally entitle to win and their wins are equally legitimate. Arguing my opinion, you simply go against this equality. It's cycling, not despotism. Any cyclist sooner or later faces a stronger cyclist. The law of life.

Ok, just a question, why do you think that a better than Contador rider (let's assume they use the same doping) can not hit the scene?

For sure, but I think Contador has the edge on Froome in the gifted department. Whether that is down to more years training and racing on a program or not.

Froome grew up at altitude and undoubtedly has a good VO2 Max, although we'll probably never know what it is (correct me if the numbers are out there).

He was fairly dominant in SA - The Jock is our hilliest, probably toughest stage race, won the Tour of Mauritius, 2nd at Giro del Capo - but didn't do much in Europe at Barloworld - almost had a Giro stage win in 2009 - but then he was always a domestique on the pro tour until he got to Sky. At Barloworld he probably wasn't on the orange juice like a few of his teammates were.

Froome has obviously been a top notch responder to the Sky invincible stick-man program - probably GW and AICAR if I had to bet on it. But it looks very much to me like this program has come to the end of the road, just like the rampant use of CERA did a few years back.

My feeling is Sky are in for a bit of a thumping at the tour. Contador for the win, no doubt, barring a crash or positive.