Will Contador Be Juiced Up Again Upon His Return

[Samson777]

Imagine Contador and Riis bombed with are you clean/puppy face yes/doping questions on the TdF rest days press conferences

Better than HBO Comedy by miles. Can't wait.

Hey, don't be cruel man! Riis never tested positive

 

[TheEnoculator]

No way Contador is clean this year. Last year he might have been cleaner, being so soon after the ban, but he quickly realized he wouldn't have a chance in hell to beat anybody if he didn't go back on the wagon.

Contador's a nice guy and I don't wish him any ill will, but it's sad to see a man with such pure talent forced to dope to win. And winning is the only way Contador will have a job in the peloton.

 

[EnacheV]

I don't think ASO can really afford this Wonderboy mk 2.0 comeback comedy again.

Next months will be very interesting, lots of things can happen.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

I don't think ASO can really afford this Wonderboy mk 2.0 comeback comedy again.

Next months will be very interesting, lots of things can happen.

I don't think there will be too many high-profile positives this year. It's good for business to have two or three GC freaks instead of just one.

 

[RobbieCanuck]

Exactly what you are saying. Come on you really think Contador is clean? Along with the entire Canadian Olympic team and multi-millionaire athletes in a range of sports who get paid for one thing, to perform. Sorry but you are either trolling or just not especially bright.
I thought I'd heard everything what with people defending Froome and Horner and on and on, but Contador? Really?

Hugh, Hugh , Hugh, here we go again. Quit baiting. Simply because I like Contador does not mean I am trolling. Most of the Canadian Olympic team are not multimillionaire athletes just the male hockey players. And if they are making that kind of money obviously they are very good and don't need to dope.

Quit using insults like I am "not especially bright" That just shows you have no argument and you have to resort to being a slug or you are insecure and need to vent some nonsense to make you feel better. For a guy who has been around the Clinic for awhile you don't have any manners. Try using logic, reason and persuasive statements rather than lowlife language.

Now if you actually read and digested my comments, I have consistently said I hope AC is clean, but I am not so naïve to think on average he is not. I just happen to believe he has more talent as a GT rider than anyone else in the peloton - clean.

Get in out of the sun!

 

[RobbieCanuck]

He had a few good performances. A lot of cyclist during that time did as well. We could go down the list...Gilbert??

But to go from basically a mid-pack/average finsher after his bust, dormant is how I like to view it, to now he is completely dominating, and not just a few seconds here and there...he is pulling amazing attacks on the climbs, literally riding people off his wheel for solo finishes in the flats as well.

His performances as of late have to be put into the "very suspicious" category, simply based of the results, but also, based off his history and nearly lack thereof the past 2.5yrs.

At this rate, he is going to drop Froome, and anybody else, in every TDF climb and just ride to a 10 minute victory.

In yesterday's stage, he beat Valverde by what, 15 seconds...the rest of the riders didn't start dribbling across the line, looking like they wanted to die from the effort, 30 seconds after, then 1 minute and it just kept going on and on.

Of course, Alberto gets off his bike looking like he just got up from a nap and refreshed...come on now.

Good points all. But why is it we always have to assume that after a spotty couple of years and then some recovered success it is due to doping. AC has always been a great GT rider. Are you saying he has been juiced from the beginning and that is the only reason he has ever won? I just don't buy that.

With respect that viewpoint just underscores the degree of cynicism on the Clinic who are full of doubters about anyone. This is the most negative blog in blogosphere. If you go to the AC Discussion Thread in the Road Racing Forum there is not this degree of negativity.

Maybe I am being naïve and maybe Bruyneel has the goods on AC for 2009, but then again who would trust anything Bruyneel has to say. He is a Weisel.

 

[Almeisan]

Because we knew he was doping when he was at his peak. He got caught by clinical evidence.

 

[yespatterns]

Most importantly, Contador fans are much less annoying since they dont believe in unicorns.

Well there is the unicorn-doping connection.... have you noticed the protruding foreheads those things have? I smell conspiracy.

 

[The Hitch]

Imagine Contador and Riis bombed with are you clean/puppy face yes/doping questions on the TdF rest days press conferences

Better than HBO Comedy by miles. Can't wait.

Contador has been asked plenty of doping questions. Sky fans (and mc today) just further show how flawed their arguments are by pretending sky were the only ones that ever got asked those questions

 

[LaFlorecita]

No way Contador is clean this year. Last year he might have been cleaner, being so soon after the ban, but he quickly realized he wouldn't have a chance in hell to beat anybody if he didn't go back on the wagon.

Contador's a nice guy and I don't wish him any ill will, but it's sad to see a man with such pure talent forced to dope to win. And winning is the only way Contador will have a job in the peloton.

Completely agree, I couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[Granville57]

Sky's PR nightmare is having Froome just barely beat Contador at the Tour, and then have AC get taken down on a positive test.

It'd be hard to put a price on that kind of entertainment.

 

[Andynonomous]

We have seen outed dopers like David Ortiz and Jason Giambi see their production drop after being outed, then miraculously, after being under pressure for underperforming, they start performing like they were when they were doping again. Contador has just gone through a similar cycle (High performance, caught, low performance, return to high performance)

I am certain Contador is back on the dope, and I am sure everyone here is certain as well (even his biggest defenders).

 

[Granville57]

I am certain Contador is back on the dope, and I am sure everyone here is certain as well (even his biggest defenders).

He'd better be.

I'd like to see the "grand" put back into Grand Tour.

 

[Andynonomous]

...Most of the Canadian Olympic team are not multimillionaire athletes just the male hockey players. And if they are making that kind of money obviously they are very good and don't need to dope.
...

Lance Armstrong made hundreds of millions cycling (more than most NHL players). Therefore he was really that good. Lance Armstrong didn't need to dope.


Sorry, "Robbie", but believing Contador is the best clean, believing that NHL players don't dope (despite the laughably weak testing in the NHL), and believing that the Canadian Curling team doesn't dope (even after one member of the team got caught), means that Hugh is right.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

New true starting date for the season has to be when a Clinic thread goes FR over people identifying a spade.

I thought the spade was a beef?

 

[the sceptic]

Sky's PR nightmare is having Froome just barely beat Contador at the Tour, and then have AC get taken down on a positive test.

It'd be hard to put a price on that kind of entertainment.

skybot logic goes something like this:

If Froome wins, he is clean and so are everyone else.

If Froome doesnt win, whoever beats him is dopings.

So, I think a Contador win would provide the best entertainment. The skybot army would go crazy, and Walsh would be foaming at the mouth, declearing Contador the most evil doper since Armstrong.

 

[EnacheV]

So, I think a Contador win would provide the best entertainment. The skybot army would go crazy, and Walsh would be foaming at the mouth, declearing Contador the most evil doper since Armstrong.

He is the most evil doper since Armstrong.

 

[Granville57]

It's unfortunate that Contador didn't play the Stephen De Jongh card effectively.

He could've claimed that finally gaining access to Sky's revolutionary training techniques are what have restored his super powers (all while clean, of course. No need to dope under such programs).

Then what would the Sky response be if Contador beat Froome?

 

[the sceptic]

It's unfortunate that Contador didn't play the Stephen De Jongh card effectively.

He could've claimed that finally gaining access to Sky's revolutionary training techniques are what have restored his super powers (all while clean, of course. No need to dope under such programs).

Then what would the Sky response be if Contador beat Froome?

Tinkov has the potential to become a master troll.

When Contador starts beating Froome and the questions start flying in, he can just sit back, relax and say things like

"warming down"
"he worked on his cadence"
"we learned marginal gains from Rogers"
"you dont need doping in the new clean era"
"clean Contador can now ride faster than the doped Contador"

etc etc.

 

[EnacheV]

Tinkov has the potential to become a master troll.

When Contador starts beating Froome and the questions start flying in, he can just sit back, relax and say things like

"warming down"
"he worked on his cadence"
"we learned marginal gains from Rogers"
"you dont need doping in the new clean era"
"clean Contador can now ride faster than the doped Contador"

etc etc.

That works if your rider and DS are not proven dopers.

 

[Hugh Januss]

That works if your rider and DS are not proven dopers.

Because the only dopers are the guys who have been caught, you know, like Riis.

 

[HSNHSN]

It's unfortunate that Contador didn't play the Stephen De Jongh card effectively.

He could've claimed that finally gaining access to Sky's revolutionary training techniques are what have restored his super powers (all while clean, of course. No need to dope under such programs).

Then what would the Sky response be if Contador beat Froome?

They didn't need to do so yet. This may still come, when more questions are asked. Reading another Clinic thread, Michelle Cound's tweets may actually trigger this happening as a perverse plot twist.

 

[peloton]

skybot logic goes something like this:

If Froome wins, he is clean and so are everyone else.

If Froome doesnt win, whoever beats him is dopings.

So, I think a Contador win would provide the best entertainment. The skybot army would go crazy, and Walsh would be foaming at the mouth, declearing Contador the most evil doper since Armstrong.

Please, let this happen!

C'mon Barabbas, FLY

 

[yespatterns]

He is the most evil doper since Armstrong.

How do you use the interwebs with your head so far in the sand?

 

[EnacheV]

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