Women Saddle Recomendation

[CarlosBom]

Hi to everyone!!

I'm posting this because my girlfriend wants to change her saddle from her road bike, but she has two options and doesn't know which one to pick.

Prologo Kappa Evo DEA T 2.0 or Prologo Nago Evo DEA Tirox


What do you think?

 

[JackRabbitSlims]

can I suggest

that you ask your gf to try out each saddle on a decent length ride

and let her make that decision

 

[Irondan]

Hi to everyone!!

I'm posting this because my girlfriend wants to change her saddle from her road bike, but she has two options and doesn't know which one to pick.

Prologo Kappa Evo DEA T 2.0 or Prologo Nago Evo DEA Tirox


What do you think?

Why does she only have 2 options? Can't she go to the bike store and try out many saddles?

 

[CarlosBom]

She already try both and felt well, but she is in doubt which one to choose.
What are the advantages of one and the other.

 

[King Boonen]

http://www.prologotouch.com/kappa-evo-dea/

Vs

http://www.prologotouch.com/prodotti/nagoevodea.html

Second has stronger rails, carbon base, better padding, is lighter and narrower. It's also twice the price of the first.

 

[ray j willings]

No padding, naked carbon is the way to go, less friction no issues. The more bits that move between your bum and your saddle the more chance of getting sores/rash etc

 

[Benotti69]

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No padding, naked carbon is the way to go, less friction no issues. The more bits that move between your bum and your saddle the more chance of getting sores/rash etc

then a leather saddle should be the way to go?

 

[winkybiker]

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No padding, naked carbon is the way to go, less friction no issues. The more bits that move between your bum and your saddle the more chance of getting sores/rash etc

Then why don't the pros ride naked carbon? The RAAM guys don't either. Few (if any) seen on randonees. Long distance cyclo-tourists don't ride them. What is the market? If they're the best, why aren't they more common?

 

[avanti]

Re: Re:

No padding, naked carbon is the way to go, less friction no issues. The more bits that move between your bum and your saddle the more chance of getting sores/rash etc

Then why don't the pros ride naked carbon? .......................

I've seen riders use then track racing and occasionally in road TTs.

 

[JackRabbitSlims]

my girlfriend wants to change her saddle from her road bike, but she has two options and doesn't know which one to pick.

in the first instance
naked carbon is not one of her choices

the girls / women i know who ride plenty
are very particular about their saddle choice

the female genitalia can not be manoeuvred as easily as the males to accommodate different bibs and or saddles

 

[ray j willings]

Re: Re:

No padding, naked carbon is the way to go, less friction no issues. The more bits that move between your bum and your saddle the more chance of getting sores/rash etc

Then why don't the pros ride naked carbon? The RAAM guys don't either. Few (if any) seen on randonees. Long distance cyclo-tourists don't ride them. What is the market? If they're the best, why aren't they more common?

I ride mine and don't have any issues short/ long rides. One of my friends switched to naked carbon saddle and finds it much better. He does a lot of miles and did have issues with sores. He doesn't now he's switched to naked carbon.
The carbon saddle I favour cost me about £30 from china. You can pay a fortune but I spoke to my friend Ed who is a carbon specialist and the carbon and layup on some of the cheap ones from china is no worse than some of the most expensive "name" ones you can buy.
I do think that the look of a nude carbon saddle puts people off. It looks uncomfortable but unless you try it etc .

Winky I never said they were the best. You are making a lot of assumptions and asking a lot of questions about things I never mentioned.
I can only speak from my own real experience.

cheers.

 

[winkybiker]

Re: Re:

No padding, naked carbon is the way to go, less friction no issues. The more bits that move between your bum and your saddle the more chance of getting sores/rash etc

Then why don't the pros ride naked carbon? The RAAM guys don't either. Few (if any) seen on randonees. Long distance cyclo-tourists don't ride them. What is the market? If they're the best, why aren't they more common?

I ride mine and don't have any issues short/ long rides. One of my friends switched to naked carbon saddle and finds it much better. He does a lot of miles and did have issues with sores. He doesn't now he's switched to naked carbon.
The carbon saddle I favour cost me about £30 from china. You can pay a fortune but I spoke to my friend Ed who is a carbon specialist and the carbon and layup on some of the cheap ones from china is no worse than some of the most expensive "name" ones you can buy.
I do think that the look of a nude carbon saddle puts people off. It looks uncomfortable but unless you try it etc .

Winky I never said they were the best. You are making a lot of assumptions and asking a lot of questions about things I never mentioned.
I can only speak from my own real experience.

cheers.

I thought when you said that naked carbon "is the way to go" was the same as you saying "they're the best". The difference seems subtle to me. One reason that I thought they may be less popular is that I always considered them to be very expensive. At 30 quid, that reason is gone, of course. The low friction appeals to me. I have always liked a slippery saddle as I agree that they are more comfortable. I actually polish my SLR when I'm cleaning my bike.

I am asking questions from genuine curiosity. But having said that, I actually think you might be wrong. If they really were more comfortable, they would perhaps be more popular. They may be right for you (as they are of course very light) but for most people, I'm not so sure. The pros would be all over them if they prevented saddle sores.

 

[ray j willings]

Your right Winky about " way to go " . I apologise for misinterpreting your reply.

I do think the look " it don't look comfy" puts some people off.
I personally have never had an issues with any saddle padded or non padded.
I do find the nude carbon the most comfy and have been riding them for quite a few years.
I know that a lot of pro's use their fav saddle [ padded] and get them rebadged "sponsors"
I suppose you have to try one and see if it works or not.

 

[42x16ss]

Your right Winky about " way to go " . I apologise for misinterpreting your reply.

I do think the look " it don't look comfy" puts some people off.
I personally have never had an issues with any saddle padded or non padded.
I do find the nude carbon the most comfy and have been riding them for quite a few years.
I know that a lot of pro's use their fav saddle [ padded] and get them rebadged "sponsors"
I suppose you have to try one and see if it works or not.

I used to use a naked carbon SLR for criteriums and short road races and loved it for the reasons you mentioned. I always preferred a padded one for training, long races and stage races though. I find that after a few hours on poorer roads the naked carbon can get a bit harsh. I'm always surprised more people aren't willing to try them.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

As a lady with lady bits I can say even the padding/no padding in cycling shorts can make a difference. (Some are too thin, some are too thick [either can cause discomfort] - it totally depends on the woman's individual anatomy.)

There probably is no way around it, us ladies just have to experiment with what feels right. (And if you're willing to spend some money on us in this particular department we'll be happy to take it. [(Well, at least I would.])

 

[Master50]

Recently changed to a Romin from specialized the level 1 padding is just inadequate even though it is favoured on all their highest level saddles. I get sores. the lower priced EVO saddles with level 2 padding work much better for me. On the Tandem I needed even more padding so use a gel saddle.

 

[wendybnt]

I really like the Specialized Ruby, and I'd recommend measuring your sitbones and finding the correct size for you. They come in three or four widths.

 

[AJ101]

While we're on the subject of finding women's stuff - for anyone in the UK this site is GREAT http://bikesy.co.uk/womens
It tracks down all the women's specific kit from around the UK and shows it all in one place. Consequently it really helps cut down the hunting around time.

 

[Bustedknuckle]

Re: Re:

No padding, naked carbon is the way to go, less friction no issues. The more bits that move between your bum and your saddle the more chance of getting sores/rash etc

Then why don't the pros ride naked carbon? The RAAM guys don't either. Few (if any) seen on randonees. Long distance cyclo-tourists don't ride them. What is the market? If they're the best, why aren't they more common?

They aren't 'the best', they are the lightest, which for some, makes it 'the best'. Even if it isn't.

For the OP, try to find a SMP saddle test LBS and try one.

 

[ray j willings]

Re: Re:

No padding, naked carbon is the way to go, less friction no issues. The more bits that move between your bum and your saddle the more chance of getting sores/rash etc

Then why don't the pros ride naked carbon? The RAAM guys don't either. Few (if any) seen on randonees. Long distance cyclo-tourists don't ride them. What is the market? If they're the best, why aren't they more common?

They aren't 'the best', they are the lightest, which for some, makes it 'the best'. Even if it isn't.

For the OP, try to find a SMP saddle test LBS and try one.

I think if you rode a light saddle and you had a sore £rs£ you would be a idiot the same as if you rode the most expensive saddle and that gave you a sore £rs%.
I don't know anyone who would opt to ride a uncomfortable saddle because its light.
Do you know someone who does that? I go on the weight weenie site and you see a awful lot of super light saddles that get sold because there not comfy. Trial and error. In-fact there are 3 saddles for sale on their first page right now including a 66 grm smud.


The saddle that is the best , is the one that you prefer. Be it a light carbon saddle or a padded leather saddle.
For me the £20 carbon saddle I use is the best saddle. Its very flat and the shape fits perfect. I have used quite a few saddles, expensive ones, padded ones but this is the best " for me" No issues what so ever. I just came back from Nice and spent quite a bit of time going up and down mountains , Best saddle I have used "£20"
IMO the less friction between you and your saddle the better i.e. get rid of the padding, less movement. less things rubbing.
I am lucky in a sense that I can get on any saddle and I never have a issue.


For those that have not tried a minimal carbon saddle I would say give it a go.
No saddle is the best or all the pro riders would all ride the same saddle.
You ride what suits you.

Nice try at a dig at me " They aren't 'the best', they are the lightest, which for some, makes it 'the best'. Even if it isn't "

jealousy is for fools

 

[Bustedknuckle]

Re: Re:

[/quote]

They aren't 'the best', they are the lightest, which for some, makes it 'the best'. Even if it isn't.

For the OP, try to find a SMP saddle test LBS and try one.[/quote]

I think if you rode a light saddle and you had a sore £rs£ you would be a idiot the same as if you rode the most expensive saddle and that gave you a sore £rs%.
I don't know anyone who would opt to ride a uncomfortable saddle because its light.
Do you know someone who does that? I go on the weight weenie site and you see a awful lot of super light saddles that get sold because there not comfy. Trial and error. In-fact there are 3 saddles for sale on their first page right now including a 66 grm smud.


For those that have not tried a minimal carbon saddle I would say give it a go.
No saddle is the best or all the pro riders would all ride the same saddle.
You ride what suits you.

Nice try at a dig at me " They aren't 'the best', they are the lightest, which for some, makes it 'the best'. Even if it isn't "

jealousy is for fools[/quote]

Yes I do. He uses one because it's light. He even threw away a garmin mount and resorted to 2 zip ties, because the mount 'was too heavy'..

You are a weight weenie Ray, you said so, so when you say the lightest saddle in existence is the 'best(paraphrase)', what are we to think?

 

[ray j willings]

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Busted ...I know you don't like me but please don't make things up and presume what I think or say or just make up what you think I might say.

I never actually said the" lightest saddle in existence is the best " Your making a presumption. "You are wrong"
Did you read the above post, if you did then your presumption is way off ,,,,miles away. I ride a £20 saddle. How much does your saddle cost?

If your friend is using zip ties to mount his garmin and it works " that's a good idea then" What's your problem?
There are plenty of super light saddles all sorts of shapes even padded ones well under 100grms. You could pass on that information to him if he's riding around with a sore bottom. He could try TUNE. Mcfk .AX Lightness.
Smud or even get Berk to make him a custom one. There's plenty of options I think Dash and Becker make the most expensive saddles .I think one Becker saddle comes in around 40 grms. 40grms I should buy it
I'm sure he will get one that suits him.
all the best Ray J

 

[Bustedknuckle]

Re: Re:

Busted ...I know you don't like me but please don't make things up and presume what I think or say or just make up what you think I might say.

I never actually said the" lightest saddle in existence is the best " Your making a presumption. "You are wrong"
Did you read the above post, if you did then your presumption is way off ,,,,miles away. I ride a £20 saddle. How much does your saddle cost?

If your friend is using zip ties to mount his garmin and it works " that's a good idea then" What's your problem?
There are plenty of super light saddles all sorts of shapes even padded ones well under 100grms. You could pass on that information to him if he's riding around with a sore bottom. He could try TUNE. Mcfk .AX Lightness.
Smud or even get Berk to make him a custom one. There's plenty of options I think Dash and Becker make the most expensive saddles .I think one Becker saddle comes in around 40 grms. 40grms I should buy it
I'm sure he will get one that suits him.
all the best Ray J

Not true at all. We are yakking about bikes, toys, some of this stuff is snarky, from me too but I don't dislike anybody except my former biz partner who was a thief..

I DID say 'paraphrase. My saddles are all SMP Gliders to help fix and then prevent a saddle sore/lump/dead fat down there, issue. Cost about $245.

But the guy mentions his saddle is uncomfortable, but uses it cuz it's light. You asked if I knew anybody who did this, yes I do. He rides a SR Pinarello with Boras.

So, no Ray, I don't dislike you, this is entertainment, and honestly, I apologize to come off as somebody who dislikes you because I don't. Fun stuff, this bike stuff, fun to discuss weight weenie stuff, as strange as it seems to me.