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And in the rest of the world? Right, it went down. So substantial for the sport that more people in a single country watched it.
In Belgium less people watched De Ronde in 2025 compared to 2024. What does that say?
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So what you mean is Pogacar vs Vingegaard is an improvement in ratings over Roglic vs the field in Dauphine? And Van der Poel vs Pogacar in Roubaix with all of its novelty increases the rating over Van der Poel wafflestomping the pubcrawlers?@Devil's Elbow
The really important data is what I posted the other day. In France, this year, Paris-Roubaix, Dauphiné, and TDF all saw their rating increase. Dauphiné reached an all-time high, and so did Paris-Roubaix.
That's more significant than what's happening on a forum that's a rather outdated medium.
The complaints you here don't match the audience data, or the fact that Pogacar is the only active cyclist with more than 2 million followers on Instagram.
He's the cyclist who draws the most viewers. Paris-Roubaix's historic rating increase this year wasn't due to VDP or Pedersen; it was dute to Pogacar´s debut.
And the fact that a Dauphine dominated by Pogacar reached historic ratings doesn't even need to be analyzed. Not being a French cyclist, generating that is incredible.
The Vuelta is desperate for Pogacar to participate, ask why.
But yes, what happens on a forum is more important than on Instagram or the television audience. A forum is not something representative in 2025.
By the way, the most hypocritical thing of all is that those who complain the most on the forums are the ones who most want their favorite cyclists to dominate. This is like the French who complains about dominance and wishes Seixas could be the new Hinault, winning races by five minutes.
Or those who predicted that Remco would win every race by 10 minutes shouldn´t complain now.
Those comments in a forum are worthless to measure the impact. The truly objective data say that Pogacar is the cyclist with the largest audience and the most followers on social media. If he's doing cycling a disservice, imagine the rest, who don't have half the impact on those numbers.
What I find boring is always reading the same people, ten times in each thread, saying how boring something is.
Absolutely mindboggling.
- Jan 27, 2012
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Racing with Poggi is predictable and therefore dull. Just give the twitter generation some more time to let it sink in. I believe most of the increased interest in French sports from its own population in 2025 stems from spillover from a very successful Paris Games event in 2024. The French fell in love with sports again. Poggi's dominance offers zero sustainable growth, au contraire.@Devil's Elbow
The really important data is what I posted the other day. In France, this year, Paris-Roubaix, Dauphiné, and TDF all saw their rating increase. Dauphiné reached an all-time high, and so did Paris-Roubaix.
That's more significant than what's happening on a forum that's a rather outdated medium.
The complaints you here don't match the audience data, or the fact that Pogacar is the only active cyclist with more than 2 million followers on Instagram.
He's the cyclist who draws the most viewers. Paris-Roubaix's historic rating increase this year wasn't due to VDP or Pedersen; it was dute to Pogacar´s debut.
And the fact that a Dauphine dominated by Pogacar reached historic ratings doesn't even need to be analyzed. Not being a French cyclist, generating that is incredible.
The Vuelta is desperate for Pogacar to participate, ask why.
But yes, what happens on a forum is more important than on Instagram or the television audience
By the way, the most hypocritical thing of all is that those who complain the most on the forums are the ones who most want their favorite cyclists to dominate. This is like the French who complains about dominance and wishes Seixas could be the new Hinault, winning races by five minutes.
Or those who predicted that Remco would win every race by 10 minutes shouldn´t complain now.
Those comments in a forum are worthless to measure the impact. The truly objective data say that Pogacar is the cyclist with the largest audience and the most followers on social media. If he's doing cycling a disservice, imagine the rest, who don't have half the impact on those numbers.
What I find boring is always reading the same people, ten times in each thread, saying how boring something is.
I've never had more fun watching cycling than these past 6 years. The late 2000s by contrast feel like some dark nightmare I never want to experience again.
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Where are you lot getting these viewing figures? I've seen this claim repeated many times on many different threads, I would be interested to see this and have asked several times on here.
As far as I know international numbers are down, the only ones I've seen on this forum are ones posted from France TV. They only measure audience numbers for that particular channel in a country where cycling viewership is at all all time high.
As far as I know international numbers are down, the only ones I've seen on this forum are ones posted from France TV. They only measure audience numbers for that particular channel in a country where cycling viewership is at all all time high.
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The go-to source for this is Daam van Reeth, a professor at the University of Leuven who compiles the viewership numbers for the main markets (where available) and compares to the rolling five-year average. At the Tour, audience figures were stagnant to decreasing everywhere except for Germany for obvious reasons. Which is especially worrying because typically competition for attention with the Worlds/Euros and the Olympics means numbers are a bit better in odd-numbered years (this is a big part of why numbers in France in particular were way down in 2024, with the Olympics being at home and the national team making it to the Euros final).
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I agree!
It understandable that after a while the Pog domination (and if he's not there MvdP, Vingegaard and Evenepoel are still there to win the race) get predictable and less exciting. But we should absolutely, I repeat we should absolutely not forget how boring cycling was during a lot of races between 1998 and 2020. Valverde winning classics in races in which everybody was waiting for the last possible hill to try something. Very controlled racing. Team liders were supposed to hide themselfes as long as possible. Doing something without the last 25 k was considered something suicidal. Grand Tours didn't had any attacks until the last 5k on uphill finishes. Attacking earlier was impossible (extreme control by US Postal, Sky) or considered impossible. While those teams US Postal and Sky mostly road very defensively. And the Tour only existed out 5 decisive (mountain and/or TT) stages ohter than that multiple sprint stages in a row (sometimes the whole first week) and a few transfer stages. Baraly entertaining hilly finals or dangerous Medium Mountains. World championships? You only had to start watching in the last 2 laps. The only acceptions were the cobble classic in that area. But even there some stars of the area prefered to ride conservatively even in Paris-Roubaix. Van Petegem really waited till Carefour de l'Arbre before he really tried an all out attack. Yes, maybe some finals had more tension. But personally that tension was not worth it, if the race before had been a snoozefest.
Even the domination gets predicatable at the current area, the races themselfes are still so much more entertaining nowadays, that I still prefere this domination over the racing earlier this century.
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I'd like to see him perform a celebratory somersault when he wins a race.
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There was one symbolic moment during the race highlighting the UAE dynamics we talked about a lot this year. Del Toro attacking hard, dropping Ayuso and with Pogacar staying on his wheel.
Trek are wasting him carrying water for plodders like Ciccone, Milan and Pedersen.
On top of that, there are still plenty of races without the aliens.
The aliens only ruined 1 Giro since 2020 and the others were an absolutely grueling watch.
The spring classics are still good fun except for Strade and LBL but the latter has rarely been very entertaining.
If Pog doesn't exist then Vingegaard would make the Tour just as dull as the gap between Vinge and the rest is bigger than the gap between Vinge and Pog.
Pog and Vinge didn't feature in any 1week race so you can't blame them for that.
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Skuijns claims he won the 70+ kg championships, by the way. Not sure @Red Rick agrees
www.domestiquecycling.com
'I think I’m the world champ in the 70 kilos plus category' - Skujins takes pride in fifth at Worlds
Toms Skujinš left Kigali with mixed emotions after finishing fifth at the World Championships road race. The Latvian had set his sights on a medal, but on…
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Strade is still awesome simply due to the parcours and stunning scenery with the iconic final as well.
We haven’t had a really good Giro this decade although, even with all the covid quirks, 2020 delivered some memorable action like Jai Hindley vs his rain jacket on the Stelvio!
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For those who don't know, Thymen said (before the race) these Worlds were perfect to him because it was a long and attritional race.
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“It’s a bit much” – Thymen Arensman believes brutal world championships course was too difficult
Tadej Pogacar secured back-to-back victories at the UCI Road World Championships in Kigali, confirming once again his status as the best rider in the world, if not of all time. Behind him, Dutch leade...
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