World Championships 2023: Womens Elite Road Race. Loch Lomond - Glasgow 154km

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Is it Flemish or French?
There is an official Flemish (Dutch), French and Germam version. The earliest version was French. It's still has the French title "La Brabançonne".

Most Belgians don't know the lyrics (me neither). The first champion I saw singing it without hesitation was ... you probably can guess it ... Evenepoel. It's funny if you see the Belgian Red Devils singing it. They just mumble something.
 
There is an official Flemish (Dutch), French and Germam version. The earliest version was French. It's still has the French title "La Brabançonne".

Most Belgians don't know the lyrics (me neither). The first champion I saw singing it without hesitation was ... you probably can guess it ... Evenepoel. It's funny if you see the Belgian Red Devils singing it. They just mumble something.

Tbf it sounded like they were mumbling, as i couldnt tell you the words or language theyd chosen, but it was mumbling with gusto :)
 
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Again Kopecky getting frustrated at not being assisted, but why is Riejanne Markus going to contribute with the race favourite when she has people like Vollering and van Vleuten behind? Obviously Reusser isn't going to help while Chabbey is up there, Lippert and Schweinberger just caught on and will want a breather before they take up the pacing, so it's only Persico - who was dropped earlier - and Szkalniak-Sójka who she could have counted on there... and I wouldn't hold it against either of them to say, Lotte, you're the strongest here, we want you to expend the energy to redress the balance a bit before we're willing to help.

They ought to contribute enough to keep the momentum in the group but it's only the fair and right thing to do to demand the strongest and best rider in the group take up the responsibility,
I thought her flamboyant gesticulating about a lack of assistance driving the group was really weird from the stretch from 20k to 15k to go. They had an exhausted Chabby right in front of them whom they could catch whenever they wanted and no one with miles of catching them, so it didn’t matter to the rest of the group what speed they were going. So was she demonstrating a) “ I really don’t have much racing intelligence” or b) I’m going to be bossy and demanding because I can”?
 
Great race. Honestly the best womens race I've seen this year.

My only criticism is honestly I think the women can do a longer race than 154km.
What about them prioritising interviewing Deignan, assumedly for the local audience, over either of the minor medallists? I mean, I know I'm always going to be barracking hard for ALL races to interview Cille, but how about Demi? Feel it's a shame that we didn't get to hear from anybody at the pointy end of the finale but the winner; I get why they wanted to interview Deignan and van Vleuten, but feel that not hearing from Vollering and Uttrup is a disappointment for more than just the "omg Cille interview" reasons.
I thought her flamboyant gesticulating about a lack of assistance driving the group was really weird from the stretch from 20k to 15k to go. They had an exhausted Chabby right in front of them whom they could catch whenever they wanted and no one with miles of catching them, so it didn’t matter to the rest of the group what speed they were going. So was she demonstrating a) “ I really don’t have much racing intelligence” or b) I’m going to be bossy and demanding because I can”?
I don't believe it's a) because even if she rides for SD Worx and gets some mad instructions from the car sometimes, and even if she is so stupidly strong this season as not to have to really worry about tactics because she can win on sheer bludgeoning strength, you don't amass the palmarès she has across endurance track events without some tactical know-how. I think it's b) not necessarily because I think it's her being bossy or what-have-you, but perhaps as an intimidation tactic. Which obviously may be counterintuitive because demonstrating that you're that much stronger that you feel you can bully others into working is also going to run the risk of making them even less keen to collaborate because they need you weakened before they can fight on an even playing field.
Yeah, this was shorter than the longest tdf stage. I think the WC should push it to 200k.
The old Primavera Rosa that ran in the 2000s started out at about 180km but shortened down to around 120km I believe? Or it might just have been proposed at 180km and eventually was only 120km when they started racing. The idea was for it to be as overlong on the women's calendar as Sanremo is on the men's. I feel like major Classics, Olympics and Worlds should be in the 160-180km ballpark at this stage with the rapid recent development of women's cycling.
 
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I think everyone who finished in the top 17 had a great ride.

Surprised to see Manly finish, she was dropped after a mechanical on the start of the mountain climb. Also great to see Agnieszka have a great week. A future star.

It was poor form by the Australian team - They needed to drop Spratt and Chapman back to pace Manly back to the second group which later merged with the final group 2kms before the circuit - Australia continues to put all their eggs in the Brown basket who continues to fail in big RR's.
 
What about them prioritising interviewing Deignan, assumedly for the local audience, over either of the minor medallists? I mean, I know I'm always going to be barracking hard for ALL races to interview Cille, but how about Demi? Feel it's a shame that we didn't get to hear from anybody at the pointy end of the finale but the winner; I get why they wanted to interview Deignan and van Vleuten, but feel that not hearing from Vollering and Uttrup is a disappointment for more than just the "omg Cille interview" reasons.
At least they showed the sprint for 5th.... Didn't happen in the men's race. I still don't have a clue how Küng won me 80 euros.

And, I don't think which riders you hear from after a race will influence very many people's opinions of a race...
 
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYOMxA3jWII
English interview, pretty much same content. And no profanities!
Was that Jose on the mic? She obviously hasn't got the memo that now obviously everybody is supposed to criticise her racing, lol.

No profanities, I guess this means the media training bods have got to her, booooooooo.

Although I guess that is actually a fair point in them not getting an official live interview earlier, she has proven to have something of a potty mouth in the past.
 
Was that Jose on the mic? She obviously hasn't got the memo that now obviously everybody is supposed to criticise her racing, lol.

No profanities, I guess this means the media training bods have got to her, booooooooo.

Although I guess that is actually a fair point in them not getting an official live interview earlier, she has proven to have something of a potty mouth in the past.
Hannah Walker
 
Thought that was a very entertaining race and a very deserved winner in Kopecky, she looked so much stronger than anyone bar Vollering. Though CUL has become more negative in her racing, thought she rode very well tactically today. Might not win her fans, but doubt if she would have a medal if she rode differently. Deignan and Schweinberger were the surprises to me as neither showed this level most of the year(ignoring the TT). Also fair play to Chabgey for having a real shot at it..
 
Yeah, this was shorter than the longest tdf stage. I think the WC should push it to 200k.

we had riders who couldnt keep up after the first few kms, it was one of the longest one day races of the whole year. I really dont see how adding anothing 40km to the max really adds anything.

especially as it funny everyone complains the mens races & stages are often too long because nothing happens for ages, whilst the shorter stages are much more interesting because riders are forced to race the whole stage.
 
we had riders who couldnt keep up after the first few kms, it was one of the longest one day races of the whole year. I really dont see how adding anothing 40km to the max really adds anything.

especially as it funny everyone complains the mens races & stages are often too long because nothing happens for ages, whilst the shorter stages are much more interesting because riders are forced to race the whole stage.
Not really. It's far from universal, and you will frequently see when race routes are released, lots of criticism of not enough distance, not enough TT mileage, too many short stages. The point in both genders' races is to have variety. If all the stages are short, riders just treat them as the new normal and racing reverts to formula, just over shorter distances. Just like when they change the course of a classic, you'll have a few years of different racing as people get used to the new course, then people will learn how best to maximise the course and racing will normalise and start to follow certain predictable rules. It's an endurance sport, we need longer stages even where there are periods of downtime when little happens. A lot of the time those short stages that have been great have been great specifically because of fatigue accumulated from previous stages. The whole short stage fad came about after the Alpe d'Huez stage in 2011 which came about because the (better) stage the day before was a 200km mountain stage which was raced hard, so all the domestiques were already half dead before they started.

Also the mountains began from the gun then. Not enough major stages stick obstacles right at the start these days. Far too many hockey stick profiles; also if you present a stage which is 180km and consists of 60km flat run-in before the same climbs you put in a 120km stage... you can't be surprised if adding that 60km of run-in doesn't change the racing much.
 

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