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The race is way to hard for Ala. Pinot and Bardet should be undisputed leaders of the team.
Ala really struggled on the harder/longer climbs in the last few days and he should be close to his peak form by now.
Red Rick said:
The race is way to hard for Ala. Pinot and Bardet should be undisputed leaders of the team.
Ala really struggled on the harder/longer climbs in the last few days and he should be close to his peak form by now.
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Has anyone noticed the prices of the finish area tickets don't make much sense.
The dearest way to see all races is the 8 day ticket, then the separate Time Trial & Road Race one, and the cheapest is actually to buy the tickets for each even separately.
Seems rather odd and surely a mistake.
The dearest way to see all races is the 8 day ticket, then the separate Time Trial & Road Race one, and the cheapest is actually to buy the tickets for each even separately.
Seems rather odd and surely a mistake.
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Finish area is ticket only. You can go anywhere else on the course for free of course, but podium presentations, finish area etc are ticketed. Not horribly expensive either tbh for the tickets, just find it weird buying the one to cover all events comes out more expensive than each event separate.
RedheadDane said:
Finish area is ticket only. You can go anywhere else on the course for free of course, but podium presentations, finish area etc are ticketed. Not horribly expensive either tbh for the tickets, just find it weird buying the one to cover all events comes out more expensive than each event separate.
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Apparently yesterday/today the Spanish national team coach was taking a look at the World's route. Today he said that it's a very good finish for Valverde and a good finish for Landa. He also made a comment that Valverde will be the sole leader of the team, however the plan is that he fully intends on taking Landa and that Landa will be their option B.
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For the French Team, if all are in good form, Alaf, Pinot, and Bardet all stand a chance. Too many chiefs there too. A team with a clearly designated leader will be at an advantage...
It's going to be a brutal race. Nibali will attack. He's my pick.
...not looking good, IMO...too many chiefs.Koronin said:
For the French Team, if all are in good form, Alaf, Pinot, and Bardet all stand a chance. Too many chiefs there too. A team with a clearly designated leader will be at an advantage...
It's going to be a brutal race. Nibali will attack. He's my pick.
If the Colombians turn up with a Quick Step-like attitude of 'it doesn't matter which one of us wins' they could cause chaos. Uran, Bernal, Chaves, Quintana, Henao, Pantano, Lopez, Betancur, firing up the road one after another. Terrifying. And I've not even included Atapuma and Anacona. And they still have Sosa spare for the under 23s.
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The way the Spanish national coach said it, he did say Alejandro is sole leader and Landa will be required to work for him. However, he will also be option B. So I'd say not too many chiefs as there is a definite order. He also made mention that he's closely watching the Ardennes to ensure that Landa is willing to work for Alejandro as he said he would do and so far has done.
Tonton said:
The way the Spanish national coach said it, he did say Alejandro is sole leader and Landa will be required to work for him. However, he will also be option B. So I'd say not too many chiefs as there is a definite order. He also made mention that he's closely watching the Ardennes to ensure that Landa is willing to work for Alejandro as he said he would do and so far has done.
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The whole leader-teammates dynamic matters a lot on flat or hilly routes but I’m not convinced it will have a significant impact on this course. The effect of drafting is significantly reduced on the climbs, and it will be essentially non-existent on the murito at the end of the race. I think where the impact of having many strong riders will limit teams with many leaders is if a rider(s) has a lead on the flat before the climb then teams may not chase hard in order to save both riders for the finale.
Tonton said:
The whole leader-teammates dynamic matters a lot on flat or hilly routes but I’m not convinced it will have a significant impact on this course. The effect of drafting is significantly reduced on the climbs, and it will be essentially non-existent on the murito at the end of the race. I think where the impact of having many strong riders will limit teams with many leaders is if a rider(s) has a lead on the flat before the climb then teams may not chase hard in order to save both riders for the finale.
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Hence the reason the coach said he wanted to see if Landa would keep his word to race for Valverde in the Ardennes. So far he has. Landa actually made a comment yesterday that would lead you to believe Valverde may be the one rider he won't break his word to when he says he'll work for him. He said something along the lines of I gave everything I had and he repaid us with a podium. Then said and he thanked us and publicly thank us. He makes sure we all know how much he appreciates what we've done for him. This how you are supposed to be a leader. There are several leaders in this peloton who should be taking lessons. Found that last comment to be interesting and I'm not entirely which one or how many of the team leaders he's raced for he was referring to.
Tonton said:
Hence the reason the coach said he wanted to see if Landa would keep his word to race for Valverde in the Ardennes. So far he has. Landa actually made a comment yesterday that would lead you to believe Valverde may be the one rider he won't break his word to when he says he'll work for him. He said something along the lines of I gave everything I had and he repaid us with a podium. Then said and he thanked us and publicly thank us. He makes sure we all know how much he appreciates what we've done for him. This how you are supposed to be a leader. There are several leaders in this peloton who should be taking lessons. Found that last comment to be interesting and I'm not entirely which one or how many of the team leaders he's raced for he was referring to.
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Replying in peace, but I may be misreading you also. Either scenario could be Landa playing a card for Valverde and of course, either could be Landa looking after himself!! Calling it from this distance out is impossible, will a depend who has got the best legs on this climb fest
Tonton said:
Replying in peace, but I may be misreading you also. Either scenario could be Landa playing a card for Valverde and of course, either could be Landa looking after himself!! Calling it from this distance out is impossible, will a depend who has got the best legs on this climb fest
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Tonton said:
Truthfully I can't remember the last time I've seen the Spanish team have a clue how to ride as team either. They are usually scattered throughout the peloton in the Worlds and most certainly not riding together. I've got a bunch of field pictures of the 2015 Worlds and they weren't even close to riding as a team. Yes Valverde wants this one very badly. I have a feeling Valverde will have final say on exactly who goes with him to the World's this year. Which is why I'm not convinced Landa will actually end up being on that team. On the other hand I do think at least one of not both of the Izagirre brothers do end up on the team.
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Tonton said:
The last time was probably when Valverde led out Freire in Verona 2004.
As for Valverde/Landa combo for the Worlds I think it's a very good combination for both of them. It increases chances for both riders, but they would need to stick to the plan. So far Landa is more than loyal, and Valverde is very grateful for that. We could see some repay at the Tour. I doubt Landa can finish it solo from the group of favorites, but he could do it if he escapes earlier. On the other hand Valverde would be more than happy to have someone up front, and without any need to hit the wind earlier than necessary.
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