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Sprocket01 said:
I like the way you say "only 11%". That's about 30 million people, isn't it?
This means that 270 million do not believe it. You may want to look up the word Majority. 11% is not a Majority.

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At one point at least 50% of Americans thought Saddam was behind 9/11.

Do you think Obama is a Muslim, Race?

Thank you again for proving my point.

A majority (50%) of Americans do not believe that Saddam was behind 9/11, more like 30% (Still high)
http://www.prwatch.org/node/6427

Few believe Obama is a Muslim, around 10%. http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Muslim_rumor_going_chronic.html

It appears you have found a new way to troll the broad. Posting incorrect information in an vain effort for people to respond seems to be your specialty.
 
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Bala Verde said:
Th Economist recently showed a 2009 ranking in which European Institutes were said to offer the best MBA programs, and the top 10 consisted of 5 European and 5 American Schools.

However, they acknowledged that all the available rankings published in the MBA field have very divergent criteria, which subsequently affect the outcomes.

In terms of the rankings of Universities world wide, they currently seem to favor English/US academic institutions in two ways:

1)much of the 'peer reviewed articles business' is in English, and they carry a great weight in calculating the end scores. If you don't publish internationally there is reduced visibility.
2)the highest production of peer reviewed articles are in the 'hard sciences' & medical sciences (as opposed to the social sciences, espeically when they are in the non-positivist field). The Ivy League schools have demonstrated a superior organizational capacity in the sense that they have created the best conglomerates of scientific departments. I am under the impression that European academic institutions - many state funded - are much more forced to specialize in a field/some fields, due to money constraints/allocation requirements. In general, specialized institutions even, English ones, hardly enter the top 50 at all.

It's also unlikely that the current rankings are going to change soon. One of the reasons being is that Professors who go to reputable schools often have low(er) teaching requirements and much time for their own research. It's a win win situation for the already established school, because academics and schools thus remain productive in terms of scientific output, whereas others are much more constrained due the pressure to combing teaching with research. It's 'publish or perish'

I wonder if the US academic establishments and increasing associations abroad - setting up universities in Dubai and China for example - is a move to secure the future as top ranked institutes?

Very good point. The Euro's have made great strides in the business school area. I tend to think this is because there is huge money to be made. High demand from foreign students and lower barrier to entry then Math and Science.
 
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Race Radio said:
Very good point. The Euro's have made great strides in the business school area. I tend to think this is because there is huge money to be made. High demand from foreign students and lower barrier to entry then Math and Science.

To go back to math & science education, if you compare a US curriculum with a European one, there is a difference, in particular US liberal arts programs are lagging behind. You can for instance compare at which point students will first encounter certain topics in advanced physics or math, and for the US liberal arts colleges, it's in average 1-2 years later in the career of a student. This is regardless of ranking, tuition etc.

It has to do with different entrance levels. Anyway, there's no correlation between number of publications, number of research $'s, ranking, etc. and the ability to teach advanced topics in class (up to the point where actual, current research becomes important). The benefit of MIT, Harvard, CalTech etc. comes first when the student is ready to engage in research.
 

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I did not say that the average American believes in these rumours. I said the lack of general knowledge means these rumours take hold amongst a far greater amount of people compared to other countries. Indeed the figures you provide show this to be true.

I note RR refuses to say whether he thinks Obama is a Muslim or not.
 
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Sprocket01 said:
I note RR refuses to say whether he thinks Obama is a Muslim or not.

Who cares what religion the man is! Don't think any religion should accept blood sucking politicians. They're in a league of their own.

Sprocket01, seems you should be more concerned about what this goofball is doing to this country, or not(UK), rather than trying to bust someone out whether they're misinformed or not about what religion he is. Kind of trivial, don't you think.
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Who cares what religion the man is!

But the point is many Americans do care, which is why the Muslim rumour is malicious.

Sprocket01, seems you should be more concerned about what this goofball is doing to this country, or not(UK), rather than trying to bust someone out whether they're misinformed or not about what religion he is. Kind of trivial, don't you think.

But he's not doing anything to the UK, if that is what you mean.

You are perfectly entitled to oppose his policies in the US without getting into all that other stuff that RR subscribes to. But I don't see why he's a blood sucker personally - he was left a very difficult situation on many fronts. Whoever was in charge now would be controversial to some degree because of this.
 
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But I don't see why he's a blood sucker personally - he was left a very difficult situation on many fronts. Whoever was in charge now would be controversial to some degree because of this.

No, he just want's to spend taxpayers money on stuff we can't afford, and ask the Fed to print new money out of thin air. Inflation! Brilliant! Watch what the value of the USD is going to do in the next year. USA is going to turn into one giant garage sale, not that it hasn't already.
 

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RDV4ROUBAIX said:
No, he just want's to spend taxpayers money on stuff we can't afford, and ask the Fed to print new money out of thin air. Inflation! Brilliant! Watch what the value of the USD is going to do in the next year. USA is going to turn into one giant garage sale, not that it hasn't already.

Well no inflation yet. We also don't know how bad the recession would have been without the spending. At least you've now come out of recession - here in the UK we are still in it. These debates are mirrored here.
 
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RDV4ROUBAIX said:
No, he just want's to spend taxpayers money on stuff we can't afford, and ask the Fed to print new money out of thin air. Inflation! Brilliant! Watch what the value of the USD is going to do in the next year. USA is going to turn into one giant garage sale, not that it hasn't already.

Just for reference, I would like to point out that no major industrialized country in the history of mankind has ever used anything but government spending to relieve themselves of a major recession. Not a single one.

That goofball is just enacting government policy that has been used before instead of buying into the idea that private enterprise will ever save itself from itself. Unfettered Capitalism is a great idea in theory, but there is no real world example of its use in a situation like we face.
 
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You convince the Republican's to stop breaking us with military spending on wars that have dubious reasons for beginning, and I will talk to my side about cutting back a bit on welfare.

The Rand/Limbaugh economic policy is the largest load of bovine feces that has ever been shoveled in anyone's face. It has NOT ONE SINGLE REAL WORLD EXAMPLE OF SUCCESSFUL IMPLEMENTATION. That is unless you take Somolia into account...
 
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Thoughtforfood said:
You convince the Republican's to stop breaking us with military spending on wars that have dubious reasons for beginning, and I will talk to my side about cutting back a bit on welfare.

And that's just it. If he decides to continue this Iraq/Afghan police action, were going to be even more broke than we are now. Ironic isn't it, that the main reason for voting this man in was to end the occupations and focus on problems at home.
 
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RDV4ROUBAIX said:
And that's just it. If he decides to continue this Iraq/Afghan police action, were going to be even more broke than we are now. Ironic isn't it, that the main reason for voting this man in was to end the occupations and focus on problems at home.

That was not my main reason for voting for him. I always saw him for what he is. A Capitalist with slightly more Socialist leanings than our previous president. He is middle of the road form most other industrialized nations. Obama is the logical swing of the pendulum considering the totality of our history. We will survive him and his administration's policies, and the pendulum will swing the other way. Treating him like some special case instituting policies never before seen is just sensationalism. It has no basis in reality.
 
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Thoughtforfood said:
Treating him like some special case instituting policies never before seen is just sensationalism. It has no basis in reality.
What, like bailing out banks and automakers with taxpayer money? Yeah, we've seen all that before?? Thoughtforfood, kudos to you man, you can put up with a lot more nonsense than I.

Just for the record, because I oppose most of what Barakula and his cronies have planned for this country doesn't automatically make me a Republican. Nobody accused me of it yet, so let's keep it that way.
 
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Sprocket01 said:
I did not say that the average American believes in these rumours. I said the lack of general knowledge means these rumours take hold amongst a far greater amount of people compared to other countries. Indeed the figures you provide show this to be true.

The numbers of people who believe is large because the population is large, not because the message is broadly received.

As usual you expose your lack of knowledge.

http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=43929

It is not only the US that embraces myopic stereotypes driven by media or fridge group.

anti-Semitism rose over the four years. In France, anti-Jewish sentiment rose from 11 percent to 20 percent; in Germany, from 20 percent to 25 percent; in Russia, from 25 percent to 34 percent; and in Poland, from 27
percent to 36 percent, according to the survey, which also found the sharpest rise in Spain between 2005 and 2006 (from 21 percent to 40 percent).


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I note RR refuses to say whether he thinks Obama is a Muslim or not.

You trolling attempts are getting more obvious.

Of course I do not believe Obama is a Muslim. There is nothing in any of my posts that indicate that I would believe this, nor would I care if he was. I notice you refuse to say if you were abducted by Aliens and forced to undergo experiments that left you scared for life.
 
RDV4ROUBAIX said:
And that's just it. If he decides to continue this Iraq/Afghan police action, were going to be even more broke than we are now. Ironic isn't it, that the main reason for voting this man in was to end the occupations and focus on problems at home.

END the Iraq nonsense and finish Afghanistan is what he said. Needs to get rid of bin laden, et.al. and ensure there are no safe havens for those who want to kill everything non Muslim.

Just started the 'job' Dubya miss started, Cheney lied about, Rummy/Wolfowit-less gooned up.

Nation building should be up to the Afghanis, not our state department.
 
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RDV4ROUBAIX said:
No, he just want's to spend taxpayers money on stuff we can't afford, and ask the Fed to print new money out of thin air. Inflation! Brilliant! Watch what the value of the USD is going to do in the next year. USA is going to turn into one giant garage sale, not that it hasn't already.

The Fed is not actually printing money, they are printing dept....there is a difference.

I follow the Euro/Dollar closely for work. Short term look for dollar weakness (although the last week has been strong) mid term....I do not think it will be as ugly as you say. If growth remains as it is right now, 3.5%, and unemployment comes down to 7-8%, I think the dollar will stabilize.

Don't forget a weak dollar is very good for the recovery. This and the spending could be a strong driver for growth. The challenge will be maintaining this growth and reducing the spending.....always hard to wean the patient off the dope once they are addicted.
 

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It is not only the US that embraces myopic stereotypes driven by media or fridge group.

You're straw manning again. I didn't say they were the "only" people to believe rumours.

The issues in Europe that you cite are troubling, of course, but they are long term issues. They're not quite the same thing as rumours that spring up each year about different issues and are big enough to have some effect on wars and elections. There is a bit more of an issue on that front in the US than there tends to be in Europe. But in many ways I find Americans to be brighter people - that's doubtless why they are so good at business. They just don't always have the info from the media that they should have in my view. But if you're totally happy with your system then great - be happy with it. It's not for me to decide.

Of course I do not believe Obama is a Muslim.

Well he has finally denied it. :D
 
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You're straw manning again. I didn't say they were the "only" people to believe rumours.

The issues in Europe that you cite are troubling, of course, but they are long term issues. They're not quite the same thing as rumours that spring up each year about different issues and are big enough to have some effect on wars and elections. There is a bit more of an issue on that front in the US than there tends to be in Europe. But in many ways I find Americans to be brighter people - that's doubtless why they are so good at business. They just don't always have the info from the media that they should have in my view. But if you're totally happy with your system then great - be happy with it. It's not for me to decide.


Well he has finally denied it. :D

You wrote that Americans had
more ignorance about world and current affairs in the US,
I showed you that ignorance is not a uniquely American issue. Of course you realize this but prefer to bait and troll then add anything to the discussion. The "Obama is a Muslim" bit was an interesting strawman....still waiting to hear about your alien abduction.
 
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What, like bailing out banks and automakers with taxpayer money? Yeah, we've seen all that before?? Thoughtforfood, kudos to you man, you can put up with a lot more nonsense than I.

Just for the record, because I oppose most of what Barakula and his cronies have planned for this country doesn't automatically make me a Republican. Nobody accused me of it yet, so let's keep it that way.

One word: Chrysler
 
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One word: Chrysler

I would rather have the Chrysler problem back than what we're dealing with now... Give them our money and give the executives pay raises and bonuses for building crap cars.

Cash for clunkers. Dumb.;)
 
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I thought 'bailing companies out' actually entailed a 'lender of last resort' type of intervention. Hence, the bail out is a massive public investment, and once the companies start making a profit again, they are going to repay these investments at a sharp interest rate.

In a way, the government could end up making money...
 
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I thought 'bailing companies out' actually entailed a 'lender of last resort' type of intervention. Hence, the bail out is a massive public investment, and once the companies start making a profit again, they are going to repay these investments at a sharp interest rate.

In a way, the government could end up making money...

I don't want to be forced to invest my tax dollars to bail out companies that benefit the greedy few while pedaling an inferior product. Whether it be lending institutions, banks, auto giants, doesn't matter. I don't invest in them out of my own volition, because even when things are looking up, they're still considered a risky investment. All of a sudden it's a good idea now that nobody can afford anything?
 
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For reference, I've been listening to Peter Schiff quite a bit since he warned everybody of the recession years before it happened. Currently all these bozos that are supposed to represent us government, regardless of political affliction, are telling us the same old sh!t. Spend more, spend more. I'm going to get back to my gas line up to the kitchen. I have to 'spend more', and more and more, on a new range. Priorities.

Just pic a vid a listen:
http://www.youtube.com/results?sear...=Peter+Schiff&search_sort=video_date_uploaded
 
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