World Politics

[rhubroma]

The Animal Kingdom is were life is a crabshoot. The Human Kingdom, if we are to claim that capacity of humanity, is were healthcare is a given, regardless of wealth, race or cread.
Any thing else is "selective care" and therefore not care at all.
No amount of money can buy care..you iether do or you dont.
A healthcare system thats based on private insurance does not care about anything more than the bottom line.
It`s profit.
Care isnt required.

Yes we had aspired to something more noble than a pack of stray dogs, or perhaps I'm being too insulting to dogs.

 

[redtreviso]

anti-illegal immigration activist?? activist?? Like say Charles Manson is a Helter Skelter activist? John Hinkley was a Jodi Foster Activist? wtf

""(CNN) -- An Arizona jury on Monday convicted anti-illegal immigration activist Shawna Forde of murder in the killing of a Latino man and his 9-year-old daughter during a 2009 vigilante raid she led on their home.

The Pima County jury convicted Forde on eight counts, including two counts of murder for the shooting deaths of Raul Flores and his daughter, Brisenia, and the attempted murder of the child's mother, Gina Gonzales, at the family's rural Arivaca home on May 30, 2009.""

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/02/14/arizona.double.killing.verdict/index.html?hpt=T1

 

[Skandar Akbar]

So the reason we Americans have to pay such high prices for Campy stuff is so the Italians can have free healthcare? What kind of a deal is that? Whatever it is marked up should be a tax write-off. We should not have to subsidize socialism just so we don't have to buy stuff from Japan who attacked us at Pearl Harbor.

 

[redtreviso]

So the reason we Americans have to pay such high prices for Campy stuff is so the Italians can have free healthcare? What kind of a deal is that? Whatever it is marked up should be a tax write-off. We should not have to subsidize socialism just so we don't have to buy stuff from Japan who attacked us at Pearl Harbor.

Bwahhhaaaaaaaaa

 

[patricknd]

So the reason we Americans have to pay such high prices for Campy stuff is so the Italians can have free healthcare? What kind of a deal is that? Whatever it is marked up should be a tax write-off. We should not have to subsidize socialism just so we don't have to buy stuff from Japan who attacked us at Pearl Harbor.

right you are. freakin eyetalian commie sumbi****s.

 

[redtreviso]

Ayn Rand's superman, John Galt

"""Other people do not exist for him, and he does not see why they should," she wrote, gushing that Hickman had "no regard whatsoever for all that society holds sacred, and with a consciousness all his own. He has the true, innate psychology of a Superman. He can never realize and feel 'other people.'"""

http://www.alternet.org/books/145819/ayn_rand,_hugely_popular_author_and_inspiration_to_right-wing_leaders,_was_a_big_admirer_of_serial_killers

 

[Cobblestones]

So the reason we Americans have to pay such high prices for Campy stuff is so the Italians can have free healthcare? What kind of a deal is that? Whatever it is marked up should be a tax write-off. We should not have to subsidize socialism just so we don't have to buy stuff from Japan who attacked us at Pearl Harbor.

Surely you meant to post this in the 'Off topic' thread?

 

[Skandar Akbar]

Surely you meant to post this in the 'Off topic' thread?

Why off topic? Aren't we talking about Italy healthcare? What is off topic in a thread with 'general' in its title?

As if Italy should be sticking their chest out now talking about how good thay are. With all of their doped riders, the PM molesting that innocent underage girl, and their system beating down that American girl that had rough sex 3 way. And to top it off Campy is expensive to subsidize this society.

You get long winded Italian guy Rhubarama in here to try to obscure facts with long winded diatribe. We know the truth.

 

[L29205]

So the reason we Americans have to pay such high prices for Campy stuff is so the Italians can have free healthcare? What kind of a deal is that? Whatever it is marked up should be a tax write-off. We should not have to subsidize socialism just so we don't have to buy stuff from Japan who attacked us at Pearl Harbor.

WOW, insulting the Italians and the Japanese at the same time. You could have included the Germans and got the entire Axis powers in at the same time.

From my understanding the reason Campy has a high dollar value has more to due with the distribution agreements then the actual cost of the product. It has been brought up quite a few times if you live in the US and want cheap Campy buy it from an international seller.

However, I believe your comments have nothing to do with a constructive dialog. They are simply meant to gather a reaction from the rest of the forum members.

 

[Skandar Akbar]

WOW, insulting the Italians and the Japanese at the same time. You could have included the Germans and got the entire Axis powers in at the same time.

From my understanding the reason Campy has a high dollar value has more to due with the distribution agreements then the actual cost of the product. It has been brought up quite a few times if you live in the US and want cheap Campy buy it from an international seller.

However, I believe your comments have nothing to do with a constructive dialog. They are simply meant to gather a reaction from the rest of the forum members.

You can believe what you want to believe. I can't control that so it is of no concern of mine. Also I can buy from who I want to buy stuff from. If that is based upon the past actions of other countries or the political or economic form of govts they have in place then that is my choice. My choice apparently means in your world I am insulting others. That is a warped way of looking at having convictions. If you have no convictions about anything then ok but please do not project that weakness onto me thank you very much.

 

[fatandfast]

So the reason we Americans have to pay such high prices for Campy stuff is so the Italians can have free healthcare? What kind of a deal is that? Whatever it is marked up should be a tax write-off. We should not have to subsidize socialism just so we don't have to buy stuff from Japan who attacked us at Pearl Harbor.

I owned a BMW in Germany and in the US. The car was cheaper in the US than it was in Germany( even before so many BMW models were made in the US). I used to bring bicycles back and forth from the US to Germany and Belgium the bikes with Campy or Shimano groups were so much cheaper in the US that I could make some good coin doing favors for friends. Japan also gives tax breaks for things of public interest..like Sumo wrestling..yes the tax system in Japan helps those fat mounds of men and the federation they work for. that is a social cause I can get behind..the Germans have a church tax

 

[Cobblestones]

Why off topic? Aren't we talking about Italy healthcare? What is off topic in a thread with 'general' in its title?

As if Italy should be sticking their chest out now talking about how good thay are. With all of their doped riders, the PM molesting that innocent underage girl, and their system beating down that American girl that had rough sex 3 way. And to top it off Campy is expensive to subsidize this society.

You get long winded Italian guy Rhubarama in here to try to obscure facts with long winded diatribe. We know the truth.

Maybe because your posts are so full of non-sequitur, they'd put the 'off topic' thread to shame?

 

[rhubroma]

Why off topic? Aren't we talking about Italy healthcare? What is off topic in a thread with 'general' in its title?

As if Italy should be sticking their chest out now talking about how good thay are. With all of their doped riders, the PM molesting that innocent underage girl, and their system beating down that American girl that had rough sex 3 way. And to top it off Campy is expensive to subsidize this society.

You get long winded Italian guy Rhubarama in here to try to obscure facts with long winded diatribe. We know the truth.

I'm all ears...

 

[Skandar Akbar]

I'm all ears...

Sure you are. All ears with you 5000 word creeds. Calm down Tolstoy if we want to read a novel we can solicit Amazon.com.

 

[Skandar Akbar]

Maybe because your posts are so full of non-sequitur, they'd put the 'off topic' thread to shame?

Not sure what you mean. They call me the breeze.

 

[patricknd]

Sure you are. All ears with you 5000 word creeds. Calm down Tolstoy if we want to read a novel we can solicit Amazon.com.

you have to admit that boring your adversary into submission is a clever tactic.

 

[rhubroma]

Not sure what you mean. They call me the breeze.

Oh, you're a real breeze alright.

 

[Cobblestoned]

Dr.Maserati, can we have look @ your doctoral thesis ?

Everything correct ?

 

[auscyclefan94]

I think Australia might be going to another election soon. Hopefully then we can vote out Juliar Gillard and tree hugging Prime Minister Bob Brown. Anything's better than the Greens..er I mean Labor.

 

[Anonymous]

GAO identifies $200 Billion a year in duplicate, wasteful govt spending.

What a shocker.

http://gao.gov/products/GAO-11-318SP

The cost of such programs with duplicative and overlapping purposes is eye-opening. The military came in for special scrutiny: over $10 billion on defense-wide business systems every year; $49 billion in military and veterans health services; and at least $76 billion since 2005 in urgent processing systems for the military.

But the military is by no means alone. $58 billion at the Department of Transportation for over 100 separate surface transportation programs. And almost $1 trillion in government-wide tax expenditures listed by the Treasury Department, some of which the GAO found “may be ineffective at achieving their social or economic purposes.”

“Considering the amount of program dollars involved in the issues we have identified, even limited adjustments could result in significant savings,” the GAO said.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/03/gao-duplication-waste-costs-taxpayers-billions-each-year-coburn-says-report-makes-congress-look-like.html

 

[redtreviso]

GAO identifies $200 Billion a year in duplicate, wasteful govt spending.

What a shocker.

http://gao.gov/products/GAO-11-318SP



http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/03/gao-duplication-waste-costs-taxpayers-billions-each-year-coburn-says-report-makes-congress-look-like.html

So this got your attention?? Coburn?? really???



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kpWqdPMjmo

 

[rhubroma]

GAO identifies $200 Billion a year in duplicate, wasteful govt spending.

What a shocker.

http://gao.gov/products/GAO-11-318SP



http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/03/gao-duplication-waste-costs-taxpayers-billions-each-year-coburn-says-report-makes-congress-look-like.html

Of course but the cost of waging multi-front wars isn't of concern, nor the 600 billion a year on military spending even without them, nor sending a man to Mars!

I just spit up my coffee when I read this.

 

[Anonymous]

Of course but the cost of waging multi-front wars isn't of concern, nor the 600 billion a year on military spending even without them, nor sending a man to Mars!

I just spit up my coffee when I read this.

You, of course, are correct. Dis-band the military so we can re-direct the 600 billion to social programs (in triplicate.... or in some cases 85 redundencies).

I spit up my coffee too.

 

[Anonymous]

So this got your attention?? Coburn?? really???



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kpWqdPMjmo

I don't care a wit about Coburn.

I do find it odd the children running the country scream bloody murder when anyone suggests reducung the size and scope of the federal apparatus.

 

[rhubroma]

You, of course, are correct. Dis-band the military so we can re-direct the 600 billion to social programs (in triplicate.... or in some cases 85 redundencies).

I spit up my coffee too.

Well keep spitting up your coffee with this.

An empire that holds itself together by the strength of its armies and not by its ideas, is destined to fall. The decline of the American empire is thus well under way. America is in steep decline. It's national debt and military have, since the 90's, been financed by Chinese investments.

An empire and a state that replaces social justice with the brutality of force, becomes a tyranny. America preaches civil and human rights at home and throughout the world, but then with its military actions on foreign soil breaks every principle underscoring them whenever its economic interests gain the upper hand. This is a hypocrisy of which not even a nation laking in those fundamental democratic principles, such as a China or an Iran, can be rightfully accused.

Now in terms of the spending cuts. Yes, in my book, America would do very well to spend less public funds on its immense military apparatus, just as it would behave with more dignity by not using tax payers dollars to bail out the private excesses of the Goldman Sachs of Wall Street.

The gargantuan public sums the government has thrown at the private and military sectors could have been much more wisely spent on funding public schools, research, the environment, pensions and health care, but for a heinous and thoroughly perverse ideology that has arisen form the Regan so called reforms, they prefer to spend them on warfare and private business (and warfare to uphold the interests of private business).

With this financial maneuver the repubs want, 700,000 jobs will be at risk. If the economy is what's truly at stake, and not blindly following an ideology of greed in the interests of the American oligarchy, then they are really f-ing things up. Indeed 320 economists have written a letter to the Republican Party asking it to desist from its folly: "Such enormous cuts in public spending will inflict a mortal blow to the US economy", they claim.

While that "brilliant" and fascist republican governor of Wisconsin, Scott Walker, threatens to ban public workers' strikes if his state financial package is not approved, which will, of course, spell the end of state subsidized jobs, the schools and its road and bridge infrastructure.

Walker reminds us that what the republicans truly want is less democracy and more oligarchy. Even if the unions are not the best organizations, they do offer the only legitimate workers' defense in the name of democracy and the right to protest against the oligarchs who really run the political and economic agenda. Thus a democracy without them is decidedly less democratic. But in terms of the repubs' political and economic agendas, these things are merely the fruit of a ghastly and criminal ideology. It's one that caters exclusively to the interests of a select elite who rule over the economy and their lobbyists. Even if the dems also have their fare share in lobby politics, there are those within the party who at least call for much needed reforms. But, unfortunately, as a whole, the US democratic party does not represent a left I can aspire to, nor live with.

Moreover US national debt is approaching the 14.3 trillion dollar limit, beyond which, as stipulated by congress, it is illegal to go. At this point America will be unable to finance its debt by the traditional and privileged means of emitting more treasury bonds on the market to entice foreign state investments. And how did America arrive at the world's largest national debt (also in relation to its GNP, which is even higher than that of "socialist" Greece)? Well I can tell you that it wasn't because of a socialist agenda and spending on the public wellbeing, but rather due to a deregulation that caused the flop at Wall Street and to finance its ideological wars to "bring democracy" to the oil rich Arab nations, which covers up the private economic interests that have really spawned them. And these initiatives have arisen much more within the conservative American body politic, even if the left has largely given its support. Unlike the Roosevelt New Deal years and the Kennedy social security reforms, today we have that wonderful reactionary movement the Tea Party that has accounted for 87 Republican Party members getting elected nationally. It's the same intransigent political movement, at times arriving at the folly of a pure fanaticism, that is animated by a fervent and paranoid anti-State, anti-taxes, anti-politics ideology, which is the driving force of right-wing America today. More than a disaster for American politics as a whole, the Tea Party is a disaster for the Republican Party, which has sold its entire movement out to a part of the citizenry that frankly hates the state, the same state to which they owe their very political careers and paychecks.

So we have right wing politicians in America who hate the entire political process and thus the rules of democracy, who despise eveything that has to do with the state while in part making it up, who look pitilessly upon society and hence its own citizenry, while they pursue their political careers with all the perks afforded them by the state without the least compunction and for their own base interests. All of this is, naturally, appalling and grotesque. Like parasites they live off the host, which is the State, while trying to destroy it in the interests of a private elite. How maddening!