World Politics

[redtreviso]

All I'm saying is, give peace a chance. I mean, can't we all just get along?

You quoting John Lennon is about as fstupid as my right wing, oil company employee, crack pot neighbor quoting "rage against the machine".. Reminds me of neo nazis thinking parts of pink floyd's "the wall" being a complimentary anthem to them. Pete Townsend was playing "behind blue eyes" in Austria one time and skin heads were moshing in front of him...He stopped and said "this isn't about YOU mf's"

How's that for crickets scott?

 

[Cobblestones]

#1 Gadaffi is 100% pure batsh*t frickin crazy with a bad dye job. He makes Sarah Palin seem nearly sane. Just a few more "leaders" like these two and none of us would have anything to worry about anymore.
#2 Please for the love of god get spell check, I will send you $20 by paypal if need be.

Thanks, and peace to all.

Gaddafi sure sounds batsh!t crazy. I still doubt that he is.

Anyway, this comes from "our" guy in Bahrain:

An external plot has been fomented for 20 to 30 years until the ground was ripe for subversive designs ... I here announce the failure of the fomented plot.

Gaddafi blamed potheads, Al Qaida, and whatnot. But "our" guy, the king of Bahrain, sure doesn't sound any better.

Anyway, a bit of potentially good news. The military in Yemen is defecting (after massacring ~30 civilians at a peaceful protest a few days earlier). Maybe we see the first successful revolution on the Arabian peninsula of the year.

 

[Anonymous]

Dude I saw this "All I'm saying is, give peace a chance. I mean, can't we all just get along?" But was so shocked that I just thought you might have fell head first into an Belgi Triple....

I did not this you was serious. My bad ...My bad....

@patrick. watch out giving your personal info to Hugh J.

This is President Obama's WAR for OIL. "This aggression will not stand Mannnnnn"

Gawd, nearly drowned in a 2 year old bottle of Buffalo Stout over the weekend, does that count?

 

[Hugh Januss]

Gaddafi sure sounds batsh!t crazy. I still doubt that he is.

Anyway, this comes from "our" guy in Bahrain:



Gaddafi blamed potheads, Al Qaida, and whatnot. But "our" guy, the king of Bahrain, sure doesn't sound any better.

No "ruler for life" is really a very good idea, whether they got there through revolution or birth. Unless they are purely decorative like the Queen of England.
I personally think that this use of force is more justified than Iraq, but the question is if it is justified enough to actually go through with it, and you guys have raised some excellent arguments for why it is not.
The only thing sure is that the right wing will be jumping on Obama just as hard if he did nothing as they will for having done something.
Not sure if cost should be the final determinant. Sucks for the Libians if we now say "well we used to be the cops of the world, but we are retired now, you're on your own".

 

[Anonymous]

You quoting John Lennon is about as fstupid as my right wing, oil company employee, crack pot neighbor quoting "rage against the machine".. Reminds me of neo nazis thinking parts of pink floyd's "the wall" being a complimentary anthem to them. Pete Townsend was playing "behind blue eyes" in Austria one time and skin heads were moshing in front of him...He stopped and said "this isn't about YOU mf's"

How's that for crickets scott?

Now THIS post is more like what what I had in mind.

Thanks for responding Red. I thought that the days of insulting, one-upsmanship posts were over.

 

[Hugh Januss]

Now THIS post is more like what what I had in mind.

Thanks for responding Red. I thought that the days of insulting, one-upsmanship posts were over.

I don't see how that would ever be possible around here.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

This is President Obama's WAR for OIL. "This aggression will not stand Mannnnnn"

Sure. Basically Obama is following the same neoconservative path as his predecessor.

To go back to what I said before. If it's really not about oil and control, but about morals and stopping evils that we helped create, then we might as well spend more resources we don't have, go further into irreversible debt, and go into Congo, Cameroon, Equatorial Guinea, and Saudi Arabia while we're at it.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Sure. Basically Obama is following the same neoconservative path as his predecessor.

To go back to what I said before. If it's really not about oil and control, but about morals and stopping evils that we helped create, then we might as well spend more resources we don't have, go further into irreversible debt, and go into Congo, Cameroon, Equatorial Guinea, and Saudi Arabia while we're at it.

It is (Not Funny) how these Presidents pick and choose the countries that need a regime change.

President Bush went into Afghanistan to get the bad ugly Osama Binhiden. We are still trying to catch that fool. (Not saying I believe this but ….) I have seen some fairly convincing reports that suggest other reasons to invade Afghanistan.

President Bush went into Iraq looking for Waldo…errr WMD’s and that worked out about as bad as it could have been. No doubt Saddam had them in 1990 because I myself saw the arti shells in the bunkers. We marked them for destruction then. According to many liars there were plenty more that we did not get during the first go at him. We stuck around to build a nation that by all rights knows nothing but evil dictatorships and probably do not really want a “democracy” such as it is.

President Obama picks Libya of all places to allow the USA to get sucked into a regime change again. What a crock of ****. It is hand picking due to Oil assets. They could stand up and ask for a resolution against Saudi for interfering with a people’s revolt but that will never happen. It is like asking the United States to condemn Israel for something they may have done. …Not going to happen.

It is a sick cycle and it does nothing to stimulate or to induce the United States economy. It is the lack of change that will hit President Obama in the face like a freight train. People will not even think about reelecting him.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

No kidding.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss...The party on the left is now the party on the right...

 

[Anonymous]

Sure. Basically Obama is following the same neoconservative path as his predecessor.

To go back to what I said before. If it's really not about oil and control, but about morals and stopping evils that we helped create, then we might as well spend more resources we don't have, go further into irreversible debt, and go into Congo, Cameroon, Equatorial Guinea, and Saudi Arabia while we're at it.

There are a lot of practical realities for all of us, including Obama. This country as well as every other developed nation requires the free flow of oil at market prices. It's a pre-requsite. It must happen.

So tin-horn despots that control 2% of the worlds oil production have to be kept in some state of control. The saying(s) "Gross profit covers a lot of sins"... and "Life is full of crappy little conflicts" come to mind.

The real interesting piece to this is why the US has not/will not develop our own energy. It's clearly in our own interests to do so on any number of levels.

Sadly we will be having this same conversation a decade from now.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

We will not develop our own because it is "Strategery"!

 

[Anonymous]

We will not develop our own because it is "Strategery"!

In planning for the stategery we keep mis-underestimating the future problems we are causing ourselves by not developing our own energy.

We've not had a coherent energy policy in decades.

 

[redtreviso]

In planning for the stategery we keep mis-underestimating the future problems we are causing ourselves by not developing our own energy.

You mean, not developing royalty free giveaways to big oil....tool

 

[Anonymous]

You mean, not developing royalty free giveaways to big oil....tool

No, I mean to stop catering to the idiots of this country with the biggest mouths and lowest IQ's. Like you.

 

[redtreviso]

No, I mean to stop catering to the idiots of this country with the biggest mouths and lowest IQ's. Like you.

Pretty lame for someone who admires glen beck..

 

[Anonymous]

Pretty lame for someone who admires glen beck..

So now you are referencing Fox in every third post? That's quite an increase.

Put your big boy pants on and start thinking for yourself.

 

[redtreviso]

So now you are referencing Fox in every third post? That's quite an increase.

Put your big boy pants on and start thinking for yourself.

that wasn't a reference,,I was just pointing out what low standards you have for your alfalfanators.. Like Glenn Beck, Rush,, and so many other solvent and substance damaged rw trash.

 

[Anonymous]

that wasn't a reference,,I was just pointing out what low standards you have for your alfalfanators.. Like Glenn Beck, Rush,, and so many other solvent and substance damaged rw trash.

So when you reference Fox you're not referencing Fox...

Lithium is not that hard to get on the street. You should look in to it.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

You mean, not developing royalty free giveaways to big oil....tool

I think he said something about energy policy. Nothing in there about free oil to tools.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Pretty lame for someone who admires glen beck..

2 N's not one.

that would be GlennBack.

FoxNews is on 24/7 so you had better get over there and gets some quotes.

This just in. .......President Jimmy Carter's energy policy was the first and last energy policy that attempted to break the habit of Americans and Oil. President Obama did nothing that he promised. Change what? same same ...war for oil. The President had better watch out because he never contacted or consulted with congress for the use of force against Gaddafi's Libya. Did you notice that Laser guided Cruise Missile was accidently off course and bombed Gaddafi's compound? Key......Laser guided.

 

[redtreviso]

I think he said something about energy policy. Nothing in there about free oil to tools.

right..when someone like scott parrots about existing resources they are talking about making oil free for the taking (and for pure profit) to oil companies..KBH hardly does anything but push for this..There is much oil under private land but why be interested in that when it can be had for free on federal lands and offshore(just beyond state claims).. Drill baby Drill,,,oh jeez

 

[Semper Fidelis]

right..when someone like scott parrots about existing resources they are talking about making oil free for the taking (and for pure profit) to oil companies..KBH hardly does anything but push for this..There is much oil under private land but why be interested in that when it can be had for free on federal lands and offshore(just beyond state claims).. Drill baby Drill,,,oh jeez

who is KBH? I just googled it and got KB Homes. Is that who is pushing for drilling?

 

[redtreviso]

who is KBH? I just googled it and got KB Homes. Is that who is pushing for drilling?

Not very bright are you?... Too much alcohol? Not much of a Texan either...
I'd give you a hint but...sheeez...

 

[patricknd]

who is KBH? I just googled it and got KB Homes. Is that who is pushing for drilling?

it is kb homes. they use all those sub-divisions to cover their true activity.

 

[Anonymous]

Kaanapali Beach Hotel in Maui.

Red's upset because they use as much energy as an AlGore house.