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popolo said:
The U.S. government explicitly aspires toward nobility.

"ordain and establish this Constitution."

Business aspires towards the bottom line.

Whether 'my side' keeps getting rolled or not is largely irrelevant to what the truth of these matters are.

You're mistaking "winning" with speaking truth.

I'm sorry you're confused.:confused:

I do not think Scott “SoCALL” is confused. He just happens to be a person who has beliefs and convictions that does not follow your beliefs. That makes for a good discussion as long as someone does not keep insulting everyone.
 
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popolo said:
The U.S. government explicitly aspires toward nobility.

"ordain and establish this Constitution."

Business aspires towards the bottom line.

Whether 'my side' keeps getting rolled or not is largely irrelevant to what the truth of these matters are.

You're mistaking "winning" with speaking truth.

I'm sorry you're confused.:confused:

Aspiring toward nobility and being noble are very different things. Typical of the liberal mind-set: it's not about what is, it's about what you'd like it to be. Symbolism over substance.

Truth? You can't handle the truth.
 
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WTF, have you been looking in my windows ? :D

I don’t think so. Unless you live over at the Whisky Tango village near Beall St and West 20th in the Heights. I spend a little time across the street from there and I can see the happenings in those “dwellings”. If you do live there then come on over for a Saint Arnolds or an Abita….

I have to warn you that a while back maybe 2 years or so ago …..another forum member (ChrisE) would go there from time to time. :D
 
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Third option?

We have Democrats, weak and semi corrupt.

Republicans, greedy, criminal, and dishonest.

And you think adding the insane T Party to the greedy and criminal Republicans is a viable third option?

As to your second statement above, I don't know what you're talking about. The socialist stuff is a major T bagging talking point, that's why I listed it.

I assume you have the IQ to;

1. Know what this term actually means, and
2. Understand how juvenile it makes you look by using it.

Try and refrain if you want a discussion. It's up to you.
 
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popolo said:
Third option?

We have Democrats, weak and semi corrupt.

Republicans, greedy, criminal, and dishonest.

And you think adding the insane T Party to the greedy and criminal Republicans is a viable third option?

As to your second statement above, I don't know what you're talking about. The socialist stuff is a major T ____ talking point, that's why I listed it.

I never said the Tea Party was or should be the third party option. I said a third party option would have been great if they would not have been hijacked by a bunch of Morroons.

My point about President Obama being a socialist is correct. President Obama does not hide the fact that he wants to redistribute the wealth. His Health Care law is a socialized health care policy. Is that so bad? In my opinion it is not as bad as some try to make it out to be. We already have Social Security which is a socialist program. What more opinion do you want from me.

Keep up with the Tea bagging comments and watch what it will get you. Your posting out of line and trying to get me confused with someone you made up in your own mind.
 
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My point about President Obama being a socialist is correct. President Obama does not hide the fact that he wants to redistribute the wealth. His Health Care law is a socialized health care policy. Is that so bad? In my opinion it is not as bad as some try to make it out to be. We already have Social Security which is a socialist program. What more opinion do you want from me.

Keep up with the Tea bagging comments and watch what it will get you. Your posting out of line and trying to get me confused with someone you made up in your own mind.

pffft Bagger!!!

btw... Joe Barton is supposed to be my representative..I never voted for him either..

socialist programs?? use I-45 lately? Any goods, services or business come your way via the interstate program?
 
In theory, a democracy should have a popularly elected ruling class that acts in, and considers of primary importance, the interests of the broadest sample of its citizenry. The concentration of wealth and the influence that the lobbyists have on the political decision making process, however, has turned this democracy into an utter sham. Instead we have a ruling class that acts mainly in the interests of a financial elite class of bankers, businessmen and industry leaders, which, despite having never been elected themselves, determine the political agenda for everyone.

And they use their immense wealth to promote through the mass media this agenda that they claim to be in the best interests of the country, when in fact it only serves to maintain their hegemony over it and, therefore, the subjugated majority. Sometimes they are even so successful in this that many people even vote for their political allies convinced they are actually acting in their best interests, when in fact they are in reality selling themselves out to the plutocrats.

Things have gotten so rigged on this plutocracy's behalf, that elections are held on the most inconvenient work days to discourage a high turnout and, to further make things impossible and to dissuade a young and progressive class of voters from participating in the democracy, up to three ID's are required to prove one's eligibility. It's no wonder that only 40% of the eligible electorate actually votes and where a minority of either religious bigots or thoroughly convinced ideologues, who vote in block, obtains a disproportionate influence over the outcome and always in favor of the conservative establishment.

The last presidential election was an exception, however, this was due to the exceptional disaster we had when the neo-cons were in power for two terms.

And therefore? And therefore I'm waiting to see a democracy that lives up to its name, though perhaps because society has always preferred hanging onto its illusions, rather than seeing how things really are, such a state of the State is a bit too far beyond the collective's grasp.

Though what is certain about what we have been assisting to over the past several decades, is the concentration of power and influence over the priorities of those elected into an ever shrinking minority, which makes today's democracy a rather infirm patient. And that the only cure to this potentially lethal malady, is a heavy dose of majority action. But this requires education and, above all, indignation and enthusiasm to participate in the democratic process. Yet with all the lethargy and resignation we encounter among the civilian masses, for whom hanging onto their materialism is usually the only thing that concerns them, arriving at such a state of excitement is a labor that's just too fatiguing. This is just fine, though, with the plutocracy and precisely what they had banked on when they spent part of the profits.
 
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pffft Bagger!!!

btw... Joe Barton is supposed to be my representative..I never voted for him either..

socialist programs?? use I-45 lately? Any goods, services or business come your way via the interstate program?

You mean the I-45 built by private contractors funded by specific highway taxes?

Bad analogy, but then that's not a surprise.

This response to Glenn is even more evidence that you don't comprehend what you read. Make application to the Derek Zoolander center for kids who don't read good. It can't hurt.

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In theory, a democracy should have a popularly elected ruling class that acts in, and considers of primary importance, the interests of the broadest sample of its citizenry.

Republicans don't believe in that..They believe there is a form of government called a "republic" for which their party is named for, and that once elected their representative is a King and answers to no one, and can operate against their interests without question.. Of course when they are not in power their commitment to this belief wavers JUST A LITTLE..
 
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Scott SoCal said:
You mean the I-45 built by private contractors funded by specific highway taxes?

Bad analogy, but then that's not a surprise.

This response to Glenn is even more evidence that you don't comprehend what you read. Make application to the Derek Zoolander center for kids who don't read good. It can't hurt.

Better to be boring than stupid.. scott

I-45, is a good example of a commons..and those that benefit the most benefit the most because of it not in spite of it.
 
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""The email came to Gov. Scott Walker from the personal account of a deputy prosecutor and Republican activist in Indiana.

After praise for Walker, the email — sent Feb. 19, during union demonstrations against Walker’s budget repair bill — then took a darker turn. It suggested that the situation in Wisconsin presented “a good opportunity for what’s called a ‘false flag’ operation.”

“If you could employ an associate who pretends to be sympathetic to the unions’ cause to physically attack you (or even use a firearm against you), you could discredit the unions,” the email said.
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http://www.wisconsinwatch.org/2011/03/24/email-to-walker-suggested-faking-attack-on-governor/
 
redtreviso said:
Republicans don't believe in that..They believe there is a form of government called a "republic" for which their party is named for, and that once elected their representative is a King and answers to no one, and can operate against their interests without question.. Of course when they are not in power their commitment to this belief wavers JUST A LITTLE..

Of course what they don't realize is that a republic means a government, res publica, that acts in the public's interest and on behalf of its collective wellbeing.
 
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Of course what they don't realize is that a republic means a government, res publica, that acts in the public's interest and on behalf of its collective wellbeing.

You're going to make them angrah using those fern words like that..
 
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Of course what they don't realize is that a republic means a government, res publica, that acts in the public's interest and on behalf of its collective wellbeing.

Actually, the word 'republic' has a bit different meaning in the US than anywhere else. 'Republic' generally denotes a form of government without a hereditary ruler, i.e., the opposite of a monarchy, except in the US, where the meaning is much more specific.
 
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Actually, the word 'republic' has a bit different meaning in the US than anywhere else. 'Republic' generally denotes a form of government without a hereditary ruler, i.e., the opposite of a monarchy, except in the US, where the meaning is much more specific.

not really
 
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popolo said:
http://www.politicususa.com/en/olbermann-teabagger

Keith Olbermann Reminds the Teabaggers that They Coined Their Own Name


You can call me popolo. I won't be offended!:cool:


Oh how clever for I've never seen this before:rolleyes:

Just because Olbermann still giggles when he farts does not mean you should be impressed by him. And it doesn't change the meaning of the term 'tea bagger', now does it?
 

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Oh how clever for I've never seen this before:rolleyes:

Just because Olbermann still giggles when he farts does not mean you should be impressed by him. And it doesn't change the meaning of the term 'tea bagger', now does it?

If you were previously aware of this, why the misdirected anger at me and Olbermann?

A fact is a fact. Facts don't change with time, do they?

We didn't label you guys teabaggers..;)
 
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pffft Bagger!!!

btw... Joe Barton is supposed to be my representative..I never voted for him either..

socialist programs?? use I-45 lately? Any goods, services or business come your way via the interstate program?

what?

I-45 NO I have no reason to use the North Freeway or the South Freeway.

Good luck with calling people names. FoxNews is on ... I have to go.
 

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Glenn_Wilson said:
what?

I-45 NO I have no reason to use the North Freeway or the South Freeway.

Good luck with calling people names. FoxNews is on ... I have to go.

Calling people names?

Aren't they self identifying?
 
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Hugh Januss said:
Eisenhower was more of a socialist than Obama is.

That is true. But that does not make President Obama ....NOT a socialist. That is not a bad thing. It is WHO HE is. WTF is wrong with calling him that? :mad:

Yall are some poor behaving folks. I am NOT putting President Obama down when I say that he is a socialist. Good luck and have fun.

Red....please do not call me names any longer.
 
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