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redtreviso said:
I think it simply comes down to Bush being a dumbazzz,. everything about him made the economy crash. The Fed couldn't give money away to business because there was little so Wall Street found a way to have this money but still there was no business to invest it in and get their cut., So they made up their own out of thin air. Used fed money, used fed money to hedge to short to default swap to give themselves bonuses to prop up major indexes for show.
Don't forget the Bush initiative to "privatize" Social Security, effectively giving Joe-six pack another credit card to buy his bass boat and Camaro. They were looking for many ways to siphon the 401ks, retirement funds and other "entitlements" from the unwashed masses. Remember; this occurred globally so Bush, Blair and other Euros were along for the ride in a big way and the Chinese are still selling hyped stocks and real estate. For everyone counting the moments to the US loss of world currency dominance; wait until the Chinese Real Estate bubble pops. The Chinese now outsource labor to effectively create false growth numbers ala' the other fallen economies and they will land harder with no cushion. Greed is global, not Republican.
 
May 23, 2010
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Oldman said:
Don't forget the Bush initiative to "privatize" Social Security, effectively giving Joe-six pack another credit card to buy his bass boat and Camaro. They were looking for many ways to siphon the 401ks, retirement funds and other "entitlements" from the unwashed masses. Remember; this occurred globally so Bush, Blair and other Euros were along for the ride in a big way and the Chinese are still selling hyped stocks and real estate. For everyone counting the moments to the US loss of world currency dominance; wait until the Chinese Real Estate bubble pops. The Chinese now outsource labor to effectively create false growth numbers ala' the other fallen economies and they will land harder with no cushion. Greed is global, not Republican.
But what group more exemplifies greed and plunder than the American Republican party?
 
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rhubroma said:
I don't know why, or in whcih context, Soros said that about 44. But what I do understand is that your attempts to vilify a man, for good reasons or not, as a means, however, to demonstrate why your boy Koch doesn't represent grave issues for democracy, was puerile and idiotic.

And as I said before purely instrumental and out of context.
soros is a serious cluster f??? *** hat and should be shut the f??? down. are you using up the romperroom? pass the bong or hippy lettuce to "YOUR" students!:D
 
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redtreviso said:
But what group more exemplifies greed and plunder than the American Republican party?
I "HERE" you RED .... You know some guy told me the best thing that came out of the Dallas metro area was I45 South. I told them they were full of **** but the more I see your post the more I am leaning the the Right on this. :)
 
May 23, 2010
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""Largest Banks Likely Profited By Borrowing From Federal Reserve, Lending To Federal Government
Posted: 04/26/11 05:27 PM ET


A newly-released study from the Congressional Research Service bolsters claims that the nation's largest banks profited off the Federal Reserve's financial crisis-era programs by borrowing cash for next to nothing, then lending it back to the federal government at substantially higher rates.

The report reinforces long-held beliefs that the banking system in essence engaged in taxpayer-financed arbitrage: They got money for free, then lent it back to Uncle Sam while collecting juicy returns. Left out of the equation are the millions of everyday borrowers, like households and small businesses, who were unable to secure loans needed to tide them over until the crisis ended.

The Fed released records under pressure in December and March that showed the extent of its largesse. The CRS study shows for the first time how some of the most sophisticated financial firms could have taken the Fed's money and flipped easy profits simply by lending it back to another arm of the government.

The report was requested by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), who likened the crisis-era emergency loans to "direct corporate welfare to big banks," in a statement. The cash likely was lent back to Uncle Sam in the form of Treasuries and other debt "instead of using the Fed loans to reinvest in the economy," Sanders added""

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/26/fed-lending-helped-wall-street_n_853884.html
 
May 23, 2010
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Glenn_Wilson said:
Hey Red...why do you log on like a P!!!? You never log onto the forum as a visible user....what the ? are you afraid of?
I log off and go elsewhere..or go riding or something
 
Dec 7, 2010
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redtreviso said:
I log off and go elsewhere..or go riding or something
:D ok .... go riding. that is awesome. I was just having a good go at ya. Hey did you like my 45 south post? :D

I am thinking to quit my dayjob and start running across the country. It has some more meaning that working for all you medicare and welfare folks. :D
 
May 23, 2010
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Glenn_Wilson said:
I "HERE" you RED .... You know some guy told me the best thing that came out of the Dallas metro area was I45 South. I told them they were full of **** but the more I see your post the more I am leaning the the Right on this. :)
I'm more of a I35W South north texan.. I only fly into houston...Funny how you start smelling it before Conroe.
 
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redtreviso said:
I'm more of a I35W South north texan.. I only fly into houston...Funny how you start smelling it before Conroe.
you sure it's not your feet you're smelling? i hear tell you commie boys don't wash much :D
 
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Scott SoCal said:
Cobblestones made a comment about parents choosing a school based on the need of their child being the very definition of Socialism.
In response to your comment
Im my world parents would have a choice to send their kid to a school that fit their needs. In my world parents would not be locked in and forced to send their kid to a non-performing school, public or private. I'm pro choice when it comes to our education system. You are not. We disagree.
Precisely backwards. You're against choice, because in your world choice exists only for parents rich enough to pay tuition. A socialist system is not based on affordability. It's based on need (or in the case of education, talent), not ability to pay tuition.
 
Scott SoCal said:
Perhaps you should find out before throwing around terms like 'idiotic.'

Koch is not 'my boy.' I believe, just a few posts back, I condemn the way they are purchasing political favor. I believe I used the word 'corrupt.'

I find it illustrative you (and Klink) will not use similar language regarding Soros as he's a really bad guy (but supports many of your causes).

I'm only left to believe the ends must justify the means with you.
Not at all, and I'm not a supporter of Soros. He supports the dems. And this is why, more than anything else, he's a bad guy in your book.

I just wanted to merely point out that one "bad guy" doesn't change the nature of another. This is what I found instrumental and childish about your post. It is also always the weakest form of argumentation.

PS: Between you and me all this financial support of the political class (whether democratic or republican) from the private sector, is where much of the problems with our democracy begin. Thus I can't approve of Soros on this point either. The degree to which the right-wing agenda has been able to condition the work environment within the American corporate universe in terms of for whom to vote and for whom not to, is, however, appalling.
 
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rhubroma said:
Not at all, and I'm not a supporter of Soros. He supports the dems. And this is why, more than anything else, he's a bad guy in your book.

I just wanted to merely point out that one "bad guy" doesn't change the nature of another. This is what I found instrumental and childish about your post. It is also always the weakest form of argument.

PS: Between you and me all this financial support of the poilitical class (whether democratic or republican) from the private sector, is where much of the problems with our democracy begin. Thus I can't approve of Soros on this point either. The degree to which the right-wing agenda has been able to condition the work environment within the American corporate universe in terms of for whom to vote and for whom not to, is, however, appalling.

He's a bad guy because Sean Hannity told him he was..Otherwise he would have never heard of him.. The real bad contributors do it in secret to Swiss and Cayman Islands accounts held mostly by republicans.
 
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Precisely backwards. You're against choice, because in your world choice exists only for parents rich enough to pay tuition. A socialist system is not based on affordability. It's based on need (or in the case of education, talent), not ability to pay tuition.
I'm not sure how you come to this conclusion.

Vouchers are tax dollars that parents are granted (typically inner city) allowing them options (Charter schools for example).

How is this being against choice? Without this type of arrangement you have inner city parents who have no choice where their kids go to school. Even a cursory look gives a basic explanation;

A school voucher, also called an education voucher, is a certificate issued by the government which parents can apply toward tuition at a private school (or, by extension, to reimburse home schooling expenses), rather than at the state school to which their child is assigned.

Under non-voucher education systems citizens who currently pay for private schooling are still taxed for public schools, therefore they are funding both public and private schools simultaneously. Vouchers are intended to allow citizens to spend their taxes toward the education of their choice without using a direct tax credit or deduction. Controversy surrounds whether this may undermine the public education system in areas where parents have the option of both public and private schools, and increase burden on the public education system as its funding and enrollment is threatened
I'm not suggesting that vouchers are necessarily the solution. But they certainly provide choice for parents and there is information out there suggesting (typically in the inner city) some student improvement.

From a 2007 article in "The Economist";

FEW ideas in education are more controversial than vouchers—letting parents choose to educate their children wherever they wish at the taxpayer's expense. First suggested by Milton Friedman, an economist, in 1955, the principle is compellingly simple. The state pays; parents choose; schools compete; standards rise; everybody gains.

Simple, perhaps, but it has aroused predictable—and often fatal—opposition from the educational establishment. Letting parents choose where to educate their children is a silly idea; professionals know best. Co-operation, not competition, is the way to improve education for all. Vouchers would increase inequality because children who are hardest to teach would be left behind.
http://www.economist.com/node/9119786

Again, argue the merits of vouchers to your hearts content but you can't say they restrict choice.
 
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redtreviso said:
He's a bad guy because Sean Hannity told him he was..Otherwise he would have never heard of him.. The real bad contributors do it in secret to Swiss and Cayman Islands accounts held mostly by republicans.
Klink, Soros is a bad guy because of his lifetime's work with the "open society" garbage (among a litany of other things).

If he were writing checks for conservative causes you'd be screaming bloody murder.

That's extremely weak sauce... but it's as typical as it is predictable.
 
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rhubroma said:
Not at all, and I'm not a supporter of Soros. He supports the dems. And this is why, more than anything else, he's a bad guy in your book.

I just wanted to merely point out that one "bad guy" doesn't change the nature of another. This is what I found instrumental and childish about your post. It is also always the weakest form of argumentation.

PS: Between you and me all this financial support of the political class (whether democratic or republican) from the private sector, is where much of the problems with our democracy begin. Thus I can't approve of Soros on this point either. The degree to which the right-wing agenda has been able to condition the work environment within the American corporate universe in terms of for whom to vote and for whom not to, is, however, appalling.

And this is why, more than anything else, he's a bad guy in your book.
Uhhh.... Lessee.... um, no.

I just wanted to merely point out that one "bad guy" doesn't change the nature of another. This is what I found instrumental and childish about your post. It is also always the weakest form of argumentation.
There's an even weaker form of agrumentation(???)....

Once again, you missed (intentionally??) my point, which was while Klink enjoys railing against the Right there are also very bad guys on the Left as well AND that most civilized people recognize this and condemn those that deserve it.

As far as your second point all I can say is... WTF are you babbling about??

The right wing didn't condition too well in the last Presidential election. Harry Reid is still in control over at the Senate so I guess the 'conditioning' didn't go that well there either.

Maybe the left wing is doing a better job of 'conditioning' their constituents? And you have the temerity to call me childish...
 
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Scott SoCal said:
Maybe the left wing is doing a better job of 'conditioning' their constituents? And you have the temerity to call me childish...

bwahhhaaaaaaa

I've smelled too much castrol R to ever use that word.

Childish when speaking of Republicans is just liberal code for STUPID
 
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