World Politics

[auscyclefan94]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/premier-ted-baillieu-drops-compulsory-aboriginal-welcome/story-e6frf7jo-1226058528404

Basically the new government is abolishing laws made by the previous government about forcing MP's and public servants to acknowledge the aboriginals at every single public event. I personally think this is a good thing as we don't need this political correctness rubbish in society today. We can still acknoledge aboriginals but shouldn't be forced to. I question why we continually have to acknowledge at all.

I was just wondering if in places like America that at public events do people have to acknowledge what happened to the negro's many years ago?

 

[Spare Tyre]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/premier-ted-baillieu-drops-compulsory-aboriginal-welcome/story-e6frf7jo-1226058528404

Basically the new government is abolishing laws made by the previous government about forcing MP's and public servants to acknowledge the aboriginals at every single public event. I personally think this is a good thing as we don't need this political correctness rubbish in society today. We can still acknoledge aboriginals but shouldn't be forced to. I question why we continually have to acknowledge at all.

LOL. I wrote immediately to the premier expressing my disappointment at this decision. It seems to me our society does very little to acknowledge the genocidal colonisation of this country and the horrific consequences of colonisation for the indigenous people, which continue to this day. A short "acknowledgement of country" by our elected representatives or other officials at public events, especially in the absence of anything more significant, seems the least we should do.

 

[rhubroma]

Maybe not such a casino:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...at-tells-you-how-long-youll-live-2284639.html

Widespread use to find out, within reason, when you will die!? Only useful to married people.

 

[auscyclefan94]

LOL. I wrote immediately to the premier expressing my disappointment at this decision. It seems to me our society does very little to acknowledge the genocidal colonisation of this country and the horrific consequences of colonisation for the indigenous people, which continue to this day. A short "acknowledgement of country" by our elected representatives or other officials at public events, especially in the absence of anything more significant, seems the least we should do.

Well I guess that shows the very different political views we have on things. I have no problem with acknowledging such things but being forced to acknowledge it at every single event seems redundant. I don't see why we need to be continually sorry for such a thing.

I better stop as i could cause some strong argument.

 

[redtreviso]

bwhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

""So what is a young person -- brimming over with that instinctive, defiant impulse to rebel against "the man" -- to do?

Well, in this up-is-down, spend-money-to-save-money world, conservatives have become the contemporary nonconformists. Today's rebellious youth are telling the progressive establishment to put its moral-relativist, redistributionist party-line pig swill in its well-used chamber pipe and smoke it.

Kids: Really want to get under your obnoxiously "tolerant," Volvo-driving, MSNBC-watching folks' skin? Try this: Go to church, abstain from premarital sex, join the Young America's Foundation, attend a Tea Party rally, enroll at Liberty University, listen to Rush Limbaugh and vote Republican.

You'll have them writhing in their Birkenstocks.

I've often said that President Obama could either be the best thing to happen to America or the worst. The best insofar as this man's policies are so radical, so extreme that, in keeping with Newton's third law of motion, the "opposite reaction" might well trigger Republican rule in perpetuity.

First, the bad news: So far, Mr. Obama is the worst. Now, the good news: I believe he has awakened a sleeping giant in the millennial generation (ages 18 to 29). Today's counterculture is rejecting the tired progressive policies pushed by this president and his secular-socialist sycophants."""

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=1350282

 

[patricknd]

bwhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

""So what is a young person -- brimming over with that instinctive, defiant impulse to rebel against "the man" -- to do?

Well, in this up-is-down, spend-money-to-save-money world, conservatives have become the contemporary nonconformists. Today's rebellious youth are telling the progressive establishment to put its moral-relativist, redistributionist party-line pig swill in its well-used chamber pipe and smoke it.

Kids: Really want to get under your obnoxiously "tolerant," Volvo-driving, MSNBC-watching folks' skin? Try this: Go to church, abstain from premarital sex, join the Young America's Foundation, attend a Tea Party rally, enroll at Liberty University, listen to Rush Limbaugh and vote Republican.

You'll have them writhing in their Birkenstocks.

I've often said that President Obama could either be the best thing to happen to America or the worst. The best insofar as this man's policies are so radical, so extreme that, in keeping with Newton's third law of motion, the "opposite reaction" might well trigger Republican rule in perpetuity.

First, the bad news: So far, Mr. Obama is the worst. Now, the good news: I believe he has awakened a sleeping giant in the millennial generation (ages 18 to 29). Today's counterculture is rejecting the tired progressive policies pushed by this president and his secular-socialist sycophants."""

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=1350282

glad you're back from vacation. go anyplace good?

 

[redtreviso]

Irony is dead.. Is Rupert Murdoch originally from SoCal? LOL

""But honestly, I feel like Dr. Evil should read that number out loud to give it its proper due. And I'm sorry but somebody writing for Fox News, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch, pretending that a billionaire spending $48 million over eight years is a big deal and cause for concern? Gimme a break. Murdoch loses $48 million (let alone spends that amount) on the New York Post every year between January and September.

The daily lost $70 million in 2009, which means in the eight years Soros has spent $45 million buying media "influence," Murdoch has lost perhaps $600 million on the New York Post alone. But yes, readers should be deeply, deeply concerned about all the influence Soros is trying to buy up by spending a fraction of what Murdoch does on American media.""

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201105190009?sms_ss=reddit&at_xt=4dd5586063607230,0

 

[Anonymous]

Irony is dead.. Is Rupert Murdoch originally from SoCal? LOL

""But honestly, I feel like Dr. Evil should read that number out loud to give it its proper due. And I'm sorry but somebody writing for Fox News, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch, pretending that a billionaire spending $48 million over eight years is a big deal and cause for concern? Gimme a break. Murdoch loses $48 million (let alone spends that amount) on the New York Post every year between January and September.

The daily lost $70 million in 2009, which means in the eight years Soros has spent $45 million buying media "influence," Murdoch has lost perhaps $600 million on the New York Post alone. But yes, readers should be deeply, deeply concerned about all the influence Soros is trying to buy up by spending a fraction of what Murdoch does on American media.""

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201105190009?sms_ss=reddit&at_xt=4dd5586063607230,0

Let me get this straight...

A Media Matters post is comparing Murdoch to Soros and has "Irony" in the headline??



Ba Haaaaaaaaaaa HaaaaaaaaI will be laughing my ass off for some time.

 

[redtreviso]

Let me get this straight...

A Media Matters post is comparing Murdoch to Soros and has "Irony" in the headline??



Ba Haaaaaaaaaaa HaaaaaaaaI will be laughing my ass off for some time.

Foxnews is ironically complaining about the "foreign" Soros' influence .. Media Matters reports on it. Laughing inappropriately?--check

 

[Anonymous]

Foxnews is ironically complaining about the "foreign" Soros' influence .. Media Matters reports on it. Laughing inappropriately?--check

Check this;

 

[rhubroma]

That media is in the control of individuals, is a terrible thing for democracy.

In fact, it has killed it.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

That media is in the control of individuals, is a terrible thing for democracy.

In fact, it has killed it.

yeah bro...check it.

 

[redtreviso]

""Source: Reuters

Saudi Arabia, UAE funded jihadi networks in ****stan: Wikileaks cable

(Reuters) - Islamic charities from Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates financed a network in U.S. ally ****stan that recruited children as young as eight to wage holy war, a local newspaper reported on Sunday, citing Wikileaks.

A U.S. diplomatic cable published by WikiLeaks said financial support estimated at $100 million a year was making its way from those Gulf Arab states to a jihadist recruitment network in ****stan's Punjab province, Dawn newspaper reported.

The November 2008 dispatch by Bryan Hunt, the then principal officer at the U.S. consulate in Lahore, was based on discussions with local government and non-governmental sources during trips to Punjab, ****stan's most populous province.

It said those sources claimed that financial aid from Saudi and United Arab Emirates was coming from "missionary" and "Islamic charitable" organizations ostensibly with the direct support of those countries' governments.
""
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/22/us-****stan-saudi-uae-idUSTRE74L0ER20110522


Republican friends. Americas enemies.

""AMY GOODMAN: The long-term relationship between the Bush family and the Saudi Royal family that dates back over two decades.
And the subject of a new book by Craig Unger, which is called "House of Bush, House of Saud: The Secret Relationship between the World's Two Most Powerful Dynasties."
In it, Craig Unger writes that in order to understand this relationship, one would have to journey back to the time to the birth of Al-Qaeda. One would have to study the Iran-Iraq war of the 1980's, the 1991 Gulf War, the Iraq War of 2003.
One would have to try to deduce what had happened within the corporate suites of the oil barons, of Dallas and Houston, the executive offices of Carlyle Group.
Finally, one would have to put all this information together to shape a continuum, a narrative in which the House of Bush and the House of Saud dominated the world stage together in one era after another.
Having done so, one would have to come to a singular, inescapable conclusion, namely that horrifying as it sounds, the secret relationship between these two great families helped to trigger the age of terror and give rise to see the tragedy of 9-11.
Powerful words, Craig Unger."""

http://thewe.cc/weplanet/news/armed_force/us/house-of-saud-and-bush.html

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Hadn't been here in a bit so I thought I would check in.

Yep, it's more of the "your guy is worse than my guy on this issue, so we don't need to come up with any logical, tangible solution for anything" debate.

Carry on.

 

[Anonymous]

The real world versus theory.

http://detnews.com/article/20110524/MIVIEW/105240374/Payne--SUVs-saved-Chrysler

But there is one inconvenient truth you won't hear at the Sterling Heights, Mich. ceremony: Chrysler wouldn't be here had it not defied its green White House masters. Chrysler's return to profitability is a direct result of the fabulous success of its SUVs.

The White House hand-picked Fiat to shepherd Chrysler out of bankruptcy in June, 2009 because of Barack Obama's obsession with remaking Detroit's automakers in the image of their European peers. Convinced that Americans craved small cars to fight the warming scourge, the president demanded Fiat bring its best-selling 500 Eurobox to the States as part of the acquisition deal. Obama was convinced that Fiat could reform the immoral, gas-swigging, SUV-dependent Chrysler.

The exact opposite occurred.

More of what we get when unqualified political wonks make policy.

 

[Anonymous]

Hadn't been here in a bit so I thought I would check in.

Yep, it's more of the "your guy is worse than my guy on this issue, so we don't need to come up with any logical, tangible solution for anything" debate.

Carry on.

It's not a debate, it's an argument. Redtreviso is in room 12.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL9oA1LFoMw

 

[redtreviso]

It's not a debate, it's an argument. Redtreviso is in room 12.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL9oA1LFoMw

Without the the leader of conservatives Rush Limbaugh and his wannabee Sean Hannity, Scott would have never heard of George Soros...But we should not talk about Rupert Murdoch...

 

[Anonymous]

Without the the leader of conservatives Rush Limbaugh and his wannabee Sean Hannity, Scott would have never heard of George Soros...But we should not talk about Rupert Murdoch...

Whom you would have never heard of but for MediaMatters..... Oh the irony.

 

[redtreviso]

Whom you would have never heard of but for MediaMatters..... Oh the irony.

right.. owner of Fox and the wall street journal.. vs what? I know who Jack Welsh and Sumner Redstone are too.. But Soros is your Poodling reply to anything critical of Fox or Clear Channel right wing hate machinery.

 

[Anonymous]

right.. owner of Fox and the wall street journal.. vs what? I know who Jack Welsh and Sumner Redstone are too.. But Soros is your Poodling reply to anything critical of Fox or Clear Channel right wing hate machinery.

Blah blah blah. We already know all the bad people are republicans.

BTW, that Soros fella is pretty insignificant.... especially since his net worth is roughly twice that of Murdoch's. Prolly sweet as a kitten.

 

[redtreviso]

Blah blah blah. We already know all the bad people are republicans.

BTW, that Soros fella is pretty insignificant.... especially since his net worth is roughly twice that of Murdoch's. Prolly sweet as a kitten.

When he buys his own 24 hr cable news network let me know.

 

[Anonymous]

When he buys his own 24 hr cable news network let me know.

Meh. Research the guy a little. Let me know what you find.

 

[redtreviso]

Meh. Research the guy a little. Let me know what you find.

Why don't you research the topic of this discussion and not your deflection?
hint it wasn't about George Soros..

 

[Anonymous]

Why don't you research the topic of this discussion and not your deflection?
hint it wasn't about George Soros..

My deflection?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott SoCal View Post
It's not a debate, it's an argument. Redtreviso is in room 12.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL9oA1LFoMw

Without the the leader of conservatives Rush Limbaugh and his wannabee Sean Hannity, Scott would have never heard of George Soros...But we should not talk about Rupert Murdoch...

You could discuss this post;

The real world versus theory.

http://detnews.com/article/20110524/...saved-Chrysler

Quote:
But there is one inconvenient truth you won't hear at the Sterling Heights, Mich. ceremony: Chrysler wouldn't be here had it not defied its green White House masters. Chrysler's return to profitability is a direct result of the fabulous success of its SUVs.

The White House hand-picked Fiat to shepherd Chrysler out of bankruptcy in June, 2009 because of Barack Obama's obsession with remaking Detroit's automakers in the image of their European peers. Convinced that Americans craved small cars to fight the warming scourge, the president demanded Fiat bring its best-selling 500 Eurobox to the States as part of the acquisition deal. Obama was convinced that Fiat could reform the immoral, gas-swigging, SUV-dependent Chrysler.

The exact opposite occurred.
More of what we get when unqualified political wonks make policy.
05-22-11 12:41

But no, YOU inject Soros in the discussion and then accuse me of deflecting.

An instant classic.

 

[richwagmn]

But there is one inconvenient truth you won't hear at the Sterling Heights, Mich. ceremony: Chrysler wouldn't be here had it not defied its green White House masters. Chrysler's return to profitability is a direct result of the fabulous success of its SUVs

And Chrysler being able to build SUVs after the collapse is because of????