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redtreviso said:
Why don't you research the topic of this discussion and not your deflection?
hint it wasn't about George Soros..

FoxNews. Much? ....Soros....a real great ........... Piece of ****. :eek:


REDTREVISO........YOU OK up there? See the Tornado's are an ongoing issue up in the Dallas FortWorth area.......Give us a shout .....let us know your OK. Sounds really bad.
 
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FoxNews. Much? ....Soros....a real great ........... Piece of ****. :eek:


REDTREVISO........YOU OK up there? See the Tornado's are an ongoing issue up in the Dallas FortWorth area.......Give us a shout .....let us know your OK. Sounds really bad.

I'm good... sirens going off but most is past me..They are trying to move the people at the rangers game inside..suppose to be some large hail coming that way.
 
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"" Subject: Horrific, but, no one was listening!!!!

This is our glorious leader, the anointed one - how did we let this happen ???

The following is a narrative taken from a 2008 Sunday morning televised "Meet The Press'. The author (Dale Lindsborg) is employed by none other than the very liberal Washington Post!!

From Sunday's 07 Sept. 2008 11:48:04 EST, Televised "Meet the Press" THE THEN Senator Obama was asked about his stance on the American Flag.

General Bill Ginn' USAF (ret.) asked Obama to explain WHY he doesn't follow protocol when the National Anthem is played. The General stated to Obama that according to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171...During rendition of the national anthem, when the flag is displayed, all present (except those in uniform) are expected to stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. Or, at the very least, "Stand and Face It".

NOW GET THIS !! - - - - -

'Senator' Obama replied: "As I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be perceived as taking sides". "There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression.." "The anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all that sort of thing."

(ARE YOU READY FOR THIS???)

Obama continued: "The National Anthem should be 'swapped' for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song 'I'd Like To Teach the World To Sing'. If that were our anthem, then, I might salute it. In my opinion, we should consider reinventing our National Anthem as well as 'redesign' our Flag to better offer our enemies hope and love. It's my intention, if elected, to disarm America to the level of acceptance to our Middle East Brethren. If we, as a Nation of waring people, conduct ourselves like the nations of Islam, where peace prevails - - - perhaps a state or period of mutual accord could exist between our governments ."

When I become President, I will seek a pact of agreement to end hostilities between those who have been at war or in a state of enmity, and a freedom from disquieting oppressive thoughts. We as a Nation, have placed upon the nations of Islam, an unfair injustice which is WHY my wife disrespects the Flag and she and I have attended several flag burning ceremonies in the past".

"Of course now, I have found myself about to become the President of the United States and I have put my hatred aside. I will use my power to bring CHANGE to this Nation, and offer the people a new path.. My wife and I look forward to becoming our Country's First black Family. Indeed, CHANGE is about to overwhelm the United States of America "

WHAAAAAAAT, the **** is that!!!

Yes, you read it right. I, for one, am speechless!!!

Dale Lindsborg , Washington Post
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Once again Obama has recently said something right, in stating that the Palestinian state needs to be based upon the pre-67 geographical limits of Israel, but then has to backtrack to not be too "upsetting."

Speaking before the strong Jewish lobby AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee), Obama, in order to placate his influential audience, has said he was "misunderstood," especially in regards to what he said about the 1967 boundaries and territorial exchange.

Well at least now we know that AIPAC would use all of its means to try and make sure Obama doesn't get re-elected, while the unsupportable stalemate in the region is to continue, with its approval, apparantly ad infinitem to not have to make Israel deal with the serious problem it has caused. This also proves how ineffective a mediator in the Israel-Palestine peace agreements the US has always been, because it can't force Israel to give up the illegal colonies. And how much America has failed the Palestinian cause. And all for ideology and interests. Sad and pathetic really.

Granted Hamas refuses to accept anything short of an Israeli disbandment, however, the first step toward phasing Hamas out of the Palestinian political leadership would be to recognize Palestine's national status and force Israel to seriously reassess its imperialist policy in Palestinian territory.

I mean its always been talked up so much by us about the "right of Israel to exist," though never discussed about the right of Palestine to exist.

The first step toward such a just recognition would be to legitimize Palestine in the UN. But of course here Obama, to not commit political suicide in offending AIPAC, has made it known that the US will not approve of such a motion. This also demonstrates how the NY based UN itself often operates like a US-Israel subject and no more.
 
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I watched about 2 minutes of Foxnews last night.. Hannity had bebe netanyahoo on and they rejoiced in their mutual opposition to the President of the United States.
 
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I'm good... sirens going off but most is past me..They are trying to move the people at the rangers game inside..suppose to be some large hail coming that way.

Supposed to be another round of bad weather tonight. It is a shame none of us made it in the rapture! We would not have to put up with this! hehe.
 
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""Remember the ownership society? President George W. Bush championed the concept when he was running for re-election in 2004, envisioning a world in which every American family owned a house and a stock portfolio, and government stayed out of the way of the American Dream.

These families were, of course, conservative, or at a minimum traditional and nuclear, consisting of a heterosexual married couple and at least two kids living in a stand-alone home with a yard, a car or two and a multimedia room with a flat-screen television. The latter was a new addition to this 21st-century simulacrum of the 1950s "Leave It to Beaver" idyll. But the dream was the same.

Such a country would be more stable, Bush argued, and more prosperous. "America is a stronger country every single time a family moves into a home of their own," he said in October 2004. To achieve his vision, Bush pushed new policies encouraging homeownership, like the "zero-down-payment initiative," which was much as it sounds—a government-sponsored program that allowed people to get mortgages without a down payment. More exotic mortgages followed, including ones with no monthly payments for the first two years. Other mortgages required no documentation other than the say-so of the borrower. Absurd though these all were, they paled in comparison to the financial innovations that grew out of the mortgages—derivatives built on other derivatives, packaged and repackaged until no one could identify what they contained and how much they were, in fact, worth. snip

But eventually, it all went sour. By the turn of the century, the proliferation of easy credit and universal stock ownership combined to create anything but a conservative society of thrift. Average household debt levels are now higher in Britain than in any other major country in the developed world. In the United States, the shift away from corporate pensions to 401(k) retirement accounts plunged millions more into the equity markets and loosened the traditional connection between companies and workers, which was one element of that 1950s dream that conservatives like Bush conveniently forgot. The ownership society of the 1950s was anchored by a labor movement that made sure that workers received something resembling their share—remember Truman's Fair Deal? The deal for the past eight years has been fair to merchants of capital, and then some. But to the tens of millions on the receiving rather than originating end of those mortgages, fairness has been in short supply.

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http://www.newsweek.com/2008/10/10/end-of-the-ownership-society.html
 
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Claiming the mantle of 'The Party of Personal Responsibility' and in an effort to correct what they characterize as 'senseless government intrusion into every day life', House Republicans today voted to open debate on a measure that would repeal all current drunk driving statutes.

The measure, introduced by freshman Rep. Jackson Daniels (R-TN) and titled "Repeal of the Intrusive Job and Buzz Killing Laws Act of 2011" immediately drew fire from House Democrats, several of whom offered to buy the first round for any Senator who votes to block the measure in that chamber – as passage in the Republican-controlled House of Representatives is virtually assured.

House Speaker John Boehner praised Rep. Daniels while expressing his support for the bill:

"Not only do these laws represent the sort of senseless overregulation long espoused by my colleagues on the other side of the aisle insofar as they impose government mandates on personal behavior, but as with all other forms of regulation, they result in needless expenditure of public funds and more importantly, they cost jobs. What my good friend Jack has done in drafting this historic piece of legislation is bring us a step closer to returning our country to a better time and place – a time where citizens have ownership over their own conduct without some bureaucracy dictating their personal behavior."


When asked how the legislation, when enacted, would lead to job creation, The Bronze Clod explained, "Repeal of these laws will lead to job creation not only in the beverage industry, but also in the hospitality industry. Greater alcohol consumption has been historically proven to create jobs in factories, bars, restaurants, and hotels. This doesn't even take into account other areas ancillary to the production and consumption of alcohol."""
 
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Claiming the mantle of 'The Party of Personal Responsibility' and in an effort to correct what they characterize as 'senseless government intrusion into every day life', House Republicans today voted to open debate on a measure that would repeal all current drunk driving statutes.

The measure, introduced by freshman Rep. Jackson Daniels (R-TN) and titled "Repeal of the Intrusive Job and Buzz Killing Laws Act of 2011" immediately drew fire from House Democrats, several of whom offered to buy the first round for any Senator who votes to block the measure in that chamber – as passage in the Republican-controlled House of Representatives is virtually assured.

House Speaker John Boehner praised Rep. Daniels while expressing his support for the bill:

"Not only do these laws represent the sort of senseless overregulation long espoused by my colleagues on the other side of the aisle insofar as they impose government mandates on personal behavior, but as with all other forms of regulation, they result in needless expenditure of public funds and more importantly, they cost jobs. What my good friend Jack has done in drafting this historic piece of legislation is bring us a step closer to returning our country to a better time and place – a time where citizens have ownership over their own conduct without some bureaucracy dictating their personal behavior."


When asked how the legislation, when enacted, would lead to job creation, The Bronze Clod explained, "Repeal of these laws will lead to job creation not only in the beverage industry, but also in the hospitality industry. Greater alcohol consumption has been historically proven to create jobs in factories, bars, restaurants, and hotels. This doesn't even take into account other areas ancillary to the production and consumption of alcohol."""

that's a great one :D
 
Anyone ever listen to Alan Colmes? I can only handle so much talk radio, as it's always filled with one-sided "They say..." crap, from both sides, but Colmes is fun because he doesn't screen his calls, and well over half of them are from the Fox-Hannity lunatic fringe. These people are just bonkers, conspiracy theory, birther, nut cases, and they just about give Alan a hernia. Great fun to listen to!
 
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Anyone ever listen to Alan Colmes? I can only handle so much talk radio, as it's always filled with one-sided "They say..." crap, from both sides, but Colmes is fun because he doesn't screen his calls, and well over half of them are from the Fox-Hannity lunatic fringe. These people are just bonkers, conspiracy theory, birther, nut cases, and they just about give Alan a hernia. Great fun to listen to!

both sides? There are few liberal talk shows anywhere. and then there are people like colmes.. Hannity's purposely lilly livered ex sidekick.. Even the supposedly liberal talk radio spends most of its time giving a platform to the right wing talking points..They might argue against them but it is still the center of their content.
 
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redtreviso said:
both sides? There are few liberal talk shows anywhere. and then there are people like colmes.. Hannity's purposely lilly livered ex sidekick.. Even the supposedly liberal talk radio spends most of its time giving a platform to the right wing talking points..They might argue against them but it is still the center of their content.


Angry vitriol is not commercially viable.

Plus, it's really boring.
 
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Scott SoCal said:
Angry vitriol is not commercially viable.

Plus, it's really boring.


sure scott.. there are so many liberal Michael Savages and Neil Bortzes out there...There is something called Right Wing Hate Radio..there is no polar opposite..never was. Now go back to reading atlas shrugs out loud to yourself.
 
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""BAGHDAD—Tens of thousands of followers of a Shiite anti-American cleric are rallying in Baghdad, demanding the U.S. military leave Iraq at the end of the year.

Thursday's demonstration by Muqtada al-Sadr's supporters comes as Iraqi leaders weigh whether they should ask the U.S. troops to stay on.

Washington is pushing Baghdad for a quick decision on whether to keep some of the 46,000 soldiers currently in Iraq beyond a Dec. 31 departure deadline to ensure security.

The U.S. military counted about 300 busloads of people from Iraq's Shiite south converging on eastern Baghdad's Sadr City for the demonstration.""

the inevitable end
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redtreviso said:
sure scott.. there are so many liberal Michael Savages and Neil Bortzes out there...There is something called Right Wing Hate Radio..there is no polar opposite..never was. Now go back to reading atlas shrugs out loud to yourself.


Klinked again. You know this is false. Somehow the right wing talkers have created a market. The left has not.

http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/05/ed-schultz-calls-laura-ingraham-a-right-wing-****/

Not even the most rabid leftist is entertained by all-anger-all-the-time programming.
 
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""On fringe sites around the web, a new conspiracy theory is being cultivated: the Jan. 8 shootings in Tucson, Arizona that took the lives of six and wounded 13 others, including Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.), never actually took place.

According to the New York Times, believers of the theory, peddled primarily by conspiracy enthusiast Ed Chiarini, claim that the solemn day's events were all part of an elaborate government hoax carried out by Tucson-area actors.

Their proof?

Proponents say a number of people who popped up in television reports after the shooting, including the alleged shooter, Jared Loughner, supposedly looked like actors from the region, as well as from Hollywood.""

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/25/tucson-shooting-conspiracy_n_866847.html?icid=main
 
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Scott SoCal said:
....Not even the most rabid leftist is entertained by all-anger-all-the-time programming.

Which totally explains why rabid leftists never listen to Michael Savage!!! (Doh! Rimshot!)
 
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Here's a real stunner.

Barney Frank knocked on his Fannie
Rep admits to helping lover land job at mortgage giant in ’91

His defense...

“If it is (a conflict of interest), then much of Washington is involved (in conflicts),” Frank told the Herald last night.

Everyone else is doing it..... so it must be ok.

http://bostonherald.com/news/politics/view/2011_0526frank_knocked_on_his_fannie_rep_admits_to_helping_lover_land_job_at_mortgage_giant_in_91/srvc=home%26position=0
 
Wasn't that Charlie Rangel's defense, when he used millions of tax payer dollars, during a recession, to have his "Monument to Me" built?

Meanwhile, Vermont passed a single payer health care plan. I actually expect several other states to follow, maybe sooner rather than later. As I said before, I support single-payer, I just think it needs to be rationed, with supplemental insurance covering the rest, and coupled with HSA's. Yes, it's socialist in it's roots. So is enforcing EMTAL, which says hospitals can't turn away patients in need, part of COBRA, which is basically socialist as well. So are Medicare and Medicaid.
 
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