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ChrisE said:
... Large quantities of people making minimum wage will vote for Michelle Bachman ...

i will vote for bachman, too. first, i don't live in the US, so i don't have to live with the consequences. second, IMO the US is no longer viable as a political construct, therefore hastening its demise will start the healing faster; creating new, smaller and more dynamic political entities.
 
gregod said:
i will vote for bachman, too. first, i don't live in the US, so i don't have to live with the consequences. second, IMO the US is no longer viable as a political construct, therefore hastening its demise will start the healing faster; creating new, smaller and more dynamic political entities.

thanks...:confused:
 
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I discovered today (to my great shock and horror), that there's a whole sub-culture of truly insane men and women out there, who seriously believe that the Tea Party has either sold out or been subverted! These are people who make Genghis Khan look like a liberal. Here are a couple of examples of some of the utter sh!te I read today that really scared me -

"Obama is the enemy. Obama is a Marxist-Communist usurper and puppet front for a cabal of Marxist-Communists who are actively trying to destroy the United States of America. Everything they have done, are doing, and will do has the single goal of collapsing and destroying the U.S. economy, military, constitutional government and culture. What part of "Marxist Revolution" do you not understand?"

"This is nothing more than larceny on a scale unprecedented in human history. The only possible way that any of this makes sense is if you look at through the prism of a Communist coup d'etat. The House has just given Obama and his Communist handlers the green light to finish the job, consolidate power and bring on totalitarian rule."

"Obama is what he is, a sociopath, just like Hitler was."

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Hugh Januss said:
Except that we really don't have. Not with our current structure of campaign financing and lobbyists. Nobody can really even be heard unless the powers that be approve (or at least don't disapprove) of what they are saying. Is it worse to try to vote for what you see as the best alternative (as poor as it may be) or to sit home and grumble about the whole process?

I only grumble here. I made the mistake a few weeks ago on a liberal blog making a comment about immigration. You would have thought I was Rush Limbaugh walking in on a gay orgy with a firehose.

So, my grumbling is confined to this small part of cyberspace. Don't you feel lucky HJ? :D

I work within the confines of the system, to better my position financially to insulate myself as much as possible from the BS. So, yes I do choose to sit out because not enough people feel the same way I do and I am comfortable doing so. A good by-product is I no longer get those pesky jury summons in the mail.

That may seem callous but that is how I feel and what I have done. You have to watch out for yourself above all else when you alone can't change your surroundings. When I see that change taking place I will become more involved.

What makes you, or me, or Alpe any smarter than the average rube that takes sides on one party or the other in this debate? Nothing, other than smarts and the ability to see clearly, which is a learned trait.

Neither party has the best interest of the country as a whole in their sights; they are there purely to placate special interests. The voting booth is where people are heard, not on websites. As long as people keep voting for the "best alternative", the best alternative will keep treating you like a red-headed step child because of this exact attitude. You are used like a tool. That cannot feel good.

Alpe - understood about how people were fooled by Obama. I understand that. Unfortunately it will take a monumental meltdown as proposed by Amsterhammer to force real change. Be prepared. I am.
 
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Alpe - understood about how people were fooled by Obama. I understand that. Unfortunately it will take a monumental meltdown as proposed by Amsterhammer to force real change. Be prepared. I am.

When the time comes can I come stay in your bunker? I'll bring fresh ammo.
 
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Sick...
I´d have no problem with US-Politics. But all this plutocracy BS, ruled by the US-Finance-Mafia later always comes to europe too. Aren´t those grumpy old rich men from the east coast wealthy enough? How much more they want? What the heck is going on in this sick brains?
Bailouts yes, no problem here to make big depths, but comes it to the hard working people: No more money. Then it´s called "communism" (see ill insurance). Omg, wake up pipo of America. You get robbed by people who never worked in their lives, just living off the ever flowing compounded interest and inherited stockholder shares.
Milton Friedman must be happy in his grave: Soon you´ll have chilean conditions under Pinochet. No more government, thanks to Obamas buckling to the republican gangsters. This muppet. I see concentration camps... soon in "god´s own country". Better let me stop here before i vomit on my desk... :mad:
 
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ChrisE said:
.....Unfortunately it will take a monumental meltdown as proposed by Amsterhammer to force real change. Be prepared. I am.

Whoa there. Where have I 'proposed' a meltdown - and of what exactly?

I stopped being a revolutionary long ago.;)

My humble opinion about the extreme crackpots is that most of them basically hate Obama for reasons of good old fashioned US racism - they simply cannot cope with the idea of a 'black man' as our president.

As far as the state of the country is concerned, I think that nothing is more crucial than the most far-reaching, fundamental electoral reform, including tight restrictions and regulations on funding, contributions, and length of electioneering. Of course, this will never happen - until such time, long after I am gone, when enough politicians will finally accept the necessity of revising and updating the Constitution to reflect modern times. Once that happens, if ever, a complete restructuring of federal controls on the banking system needs to come next, together with a system of affordable public health care that is not primarily profit-driven.

I would not put forth any specific western European country as being a shining example of how an accountable democracy should work, but by comparison with the way most current systems over here now (to some extent at least) reflect the diversity of opinion prevalent in the 21st century, the US is still stuck in a political stone age where half the population always feels disenfranchised.
 
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In the U.S. only about 40% of the eligible voting population (about 3m are felons/on parole and can't vote) actually votes. Per 'state', lows are found in Washington DC (28%), followed by TX (32.3%) and a high in Maine and Minnesota (55.5%)

See election turnout 2010

During presidential elections the stats are higher, at around 60%.

If it's true that lower income group's turn out is lower than that for higher income groups, and taking a widening income gap into account, I don't know what will remain of 'real' representation.
 
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Alpe d'Huez said:
Pretty insightful comments there Chris.



Two comments on that. First, I think a lot of people thought when they elected Obama they would be getting something different. Just as some people felt when they were electing Tea Party people they thought they'd get something different. But I think the real problem lies in that until there is massive campaign finance and lobby reform, there's not going to be much change. Ross Perot once said that every election we send good people to Washington, and every time the system corrupts them. It was a scant 19 years back he said that, but it seems like a lifetime ago.

Adding to that, Andrew Bacevich in interviewsand his superb book, noted that this cycle you mention happens almost every presidential election. We send someone there with great fanfare and hope. And they have this very small window to get a few bills through, if they are savvy, and fortunate. Then, everything gets turned back the direction the money wind is blowing, and we're right back where we were for a few months until the next campaign season begins. It's a sick system.

I think this pretty well sums it up. Cheers.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...iling-deal-the-democrats-take-a-dive-20110801
 
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We saw csco, now there is a nice story on msft applying the 'off shore tax haven' method:

But for the Internal Revenue Service and foreign tax authorities, things weren't so rosy. Microsoft reported only $445 million in taxes in the U.S. and other foreign countries, just 7 percent of its $6.32 billion in pre-tax profit.

But Microsoft is straightforward about the core reason for its lower tax bill: It is increasingly channeling earnings from sales to customers throughout the world through the low-tax havens of Ireland, Puerto Rico and Singapore.

Microsoft's effective worldwide tax rate fell to 17.5 percent in the last fiscal year, down from 25 percent the previous year and 31 percent in the year to June 30, 2006. The company said it expects to owe tax at an effective rate in the next year of between 19 percent and 22 percent.

Few companies, including Thomson Reuters, pay the standard U.S. corporate rate of 35 percent thanks to loopholes and deductions but the Microsoft tax rate is still at the low end when compared with other large technology companies.

In their last reported fiscal years, Google Inc's effective tax rate was 21 percent, Apple Inc's 24 pct, and IBM's was 25 percent.

Most industrialized nations tax businesses only on income earned within their borders. U.S. corporations argue the U.S. worldwide system is anti-competitive and forces money overseas.

The Securities and Exchange Commission earlier this year asked the company to do the same, citing what it called the "disproportionate relationships among domestic and foreign revenues, pre-tax income and tax rates."

If we apply the citizen's united case, then all that untaxed corporate money must be generating a helluva of lot of freedom of expression ;)
 
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On a slightly different note, we now know why the Chinese did so well at the Olympics, which they also got to organize... :)

Security Firm Identifies Global Cyber Spying

massive cyberattack that lasted up to five years infiltrated computers and stole data from the United Nations and a wide range of governments and American corporations, according to a report released Wednesday by security experts in the United States.

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Among the few targets mentioned by name in the report are the International Olympic Committee and the World Anti-Doping Agency. The report comes after high-profile cyberattacks aimed at the International Monetary Fund, Sony and the Lockheed Martin Corporation, America’s largest military contractor.

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The earliest breaches dated from mid-2006, though McAfee said there might have been other intrusions still undetected. The duration of the attacks ranged from a month to what McAfee said was a sustained 28-month attack against an Olympic committee of an unidentified Asian nation.
 
Jul 14, 2009
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McAfee says these things in public. Companies like Kroll get paid 10 of millions to report only to the government as to not alarm the general public
 
Jun 22, 2009
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Since the title of this topic is not 'US politics' (though one could be forgiven for thinking so), I am posting the excellent article below in the hope that some (other) Europeans might care to comment on the anti-Muslim sentiments that appear to be on the rise on both sides of the Atlantic. In Holland, discussion about the role and influence of Wilders has re-surfaced with a vengeance after the recent tragic events in Norway.

Breivik and His Enablers

By ROGER COHEN
Published: July 25, 2011

LONDON — On one level Anders Behring Breivik, the Norwegian responsible for the biggest massacre by a single gunman in modern times, is just a particularly murderous psychotic loner: the 32-year-old mama’s boy with no contact with his father, obsessed by video games (Dragon Age II) as he preens himself (“There was a relatively hot girl on [sic] the restaurant today checking me out”) and dedicates his time in asexual isolation to the cultivation of hatred and the assembly of a bomb from crushed aspirin and fertilizer.

No doubt, that is how Islamophobic right-wingers in Europe and the United States who share his views but not his methods will seek to portray Breivik.

We’ve seen the movie. When Jared Loughner shot Representative Gabrielle Giffords this year in Tuscon, Arizona — after Sarah Palin placed rifle sights over Giffords’ constituency and Giffords herself predicted that “there are consequences to that” — the right went into overdrive to portray Loughner as a schizophrenic loner whose crazed universe owed nothing to those fanning hatred under the slogan of “Take America Back.” (That non-specific taking-back would of course be from Muslims and the likes of the liberal and Jewish Giffords.)

Breivik is no loner. His violence was brewed in a specific European environment that shares characteristics with the specific American environment of Loughner: relative economic decline, a jobless recovery, middle-class anxiety and high levels of immigration serving as the backdrop for racist Islamophobia and use of the spurious specter of a “Muslim takeover” as a wedge political issue to channel frustrations rightward.

In a June 11 entry from his 1,500-page online manifesto, Breivik wrote: “I prayed for the first time in a very long time today. I explained to God that unless he wanted the Marxist-Islamic alliance and the certain Islamic takeover of Europe to completely annihilate European Christendom within the next hundred years he must ensure that the warriors fighting for the preservation of European Christendom prevail.”

Two days later, he tests his homemade bomb: “BOOM! The detonation was successful.”

European Christendom in this context is a mirror image of the idealized caliphate of Osama bin Laden. It is a dream-world cause through which to enlist the masses in apocalyptical warfare against an “infidel” enemy supposedly threatening the territory, morals and culture of an imagined community of devout believers.

This particular Christian Europe — the Continent is overwhelmingly secular for reasons that have nothing to do with a growing Muslim presence — is just as fantastical as a restored 7th-century dominion of the caliph. Bin Laden inveighed against “crusaders.” Breivik attended a 2002 meeting to reconstitute the Knights Templar, a Crusader military order. This is the stuff of video games — except that it kills real teenagers of all faiths.

What has become clear in Oslo and on Utoya Island is that delusional anti-Muslim rightist hatred aimed at “multiculturalist” liberals can be just as dangerous as Al Qaeda’s anti-infidel poison: Breivik alone killed many more people than the four Islamist suicide bombers in the 7/7 London attack of 2005.

Breivik has many ideological fellow travelers on both sides of the Atlantic. Theirs is the poison in which he refined his murderous resentment. The enablers include Geert Wilders in the Netherlands, who compared the Koran to “Mein Kampf” on his way to 15.5 percent of the vote in the 2010 election; the surging Marine Le Pen in France, who uses Nazi analogies as she pours scorn on devout Muslims; far-rightist parties in Sweden and Denmark and Britain equating every problem with Muslim immigration; Republicans like former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and Representative Peter King, who have found it politically opportune to target “creeping Shariah in the United States” at a time when the middle name of the president is Hussein; U.S. church pastors using their bully pulpits week after week to say America is a Christian nation under imminent threat from Islam.

Muslims over the past decade have not done enough to denounce those who deformed their religion in the name of jihadist murder. Will the European and U.S. anti-immigrant Islamophobic crowd now denounce what Breivik has done under their ideological banner? I doubt it. We’ll be hearing a lot about what a loner he was.

Huge social problems have accompanied Muslim immigration in Europe in recent decades, much greater than in the more open United States. There is plenty of blame to go around. Immigrants have often faced racism and exclusion. The values of Islam on women, on marriage and on homosexuality, as well as the very vitality of the religion, have grated on a secular Europe. The picture is not uniform — successful integration exists — but it is troubling.

Nothing, however, can excuse the widespread condoning of an anti-Muslim racism once reserved for the Jews of Europe. Not on the weekend when Amy Winehouse, a Jewish girl from East London whose artistry would once have been dismissed by a racist and murderous European right as degenerate “cosmopolitan” trash, died. A good way to remember her is finally to confront the latest iteration of a European bigotry that kills.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/26/opinion/26iht-edcohen26.html?_r=4
 
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Right after finishing the NYT article you can look anywhere to see that w huge military change coming in Turkey, Egypt, Iraq,Libya as a start the scary Muslim boogie man is coming .
One of the largest standing armies in the world w great power on land, air and sea is getting ready to lean really far to the right in Turkey. Obama thinks it's tough to fight wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya he ain't seen nothing yet. If there is widespread outrage at how the military was used by Mubarak and that turns into a city burning fest I wonder what the response will be this time. Probably some "we got your back", tweets and pres conferences from him and Hillary
 
Alpe d'Huez said:
Great articles and links there guys. Here's one that I think sums the country up well:

The late, great George Carlin predicted this in his speech about the American Dream. back in 2005.

:cool:

As I watched that, sadly, I got the impression he really believed what he was saying and was not just being a comedian. You know, he might just be right. And all the people that work for those CEOs who make all those decisions probably have no clue what's going on.
 
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Amsterhammer said:
Long and good article

My comment:
Populists are bad enough as they are.
But when populists start using extremist rhetorics It starts to go really wrong.

Many of the groups and individuals named in the article may condemn the means Breivik took into use.
But they share common goals.
And as long as the majority doesn't take a firm stand against those "goals", I'm afraid things like Oslo/Utøya may well happen again.
 
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on3m@n@rmy said:
As I watched that, sadly, I got the impression he really believed what he was saying and was not just being a comedian. You know, he might just be right. And all the people that work for those CEOs who make all those decisions probably have no clue what's going on.

Yes, it's both amusing, and painfully true. As Carlin said, "nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care..."
 
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Amsterhammer said:
Breivik is no loner. His violence was brewed in a specific European environment that shares characteristics with the specific American environment of Loughner: relative economic decline, a jobless recovery, middle-class anxiety and high levels of immigration serving as the backdrop for racist Islamophobia and use of the spurious specter of a “Muslim takeover” as a wedge political issue to channel frustrations rightward.

Although I agree with most of the article, I don't agree with this part. Norway is not in economic decline and there's no high level of immigration. The explanation offered is not supported by facts. There must be something else.
 
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Italy's police seized documents at local Moody's and S&P offices

MILAN, Aug 4 (Reuters) - Italian prosecutors have seized documents at the offices of rating agencies Moody's and Standard & Poor's in a probe over suspected "anomalous" fluctuations in Italian share prices, a prosecutor said on Thursday.

The measure is aimed at "verifying whether these agencies respect regulations as they carry out their work," Carlo Maria Capistro, who heads the prosecutors' office in the southern town of Trani which is leading the probe, told Reuters.
 
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In the past week I have read 3 letters/articles that make points about bicycle commuting. There is letter in this weeks Economist in response to an article they did called Carmageddon . I like they angle of pay as you go/usage fees rather than look at all vehicles as if they impact the transit system the same. Not sure how it works or doesn't work in England but when we tried to get a usage fee for entering midtown NYC it was shot down.
 
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