thrawn said:The deal to me just seems to be delaying the inevitable. I don't see how this deal will help to reduce Greek debt, or grow the economy.
and Kin jun ERRROL looks out the window of an airplane.Amsterhammer said:thrawn said:The deal to me just seems to be delaying the inevitable. I don't see how this deal will help to reduce Greek debt, or grow the economy.
It will do neither. This deal means endless decades of being wholly subservient to the whims and demands of 'the EU' which, as recent days have shown, means 'Germany'. A tragic deal for the Greeks, forced on them at metaphorical gun point.
Amsterhammer said:Do we have any Russian speakers in the house? New MH-17 film, never before seen, appears to clearly suggest where the responsibility for this senseless tragedy lies.
http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/never-before-seen-footage-reveals-russian-backed-rebels-arriving-at-the-wreckage-of-mh17/story-fnizu68q-1227444676268
python said:^^...speaking of THE israeli missiles, have you folks known that the latest shot-down version points to exactly them as the fatal projectile. i am serious
http://aanirfan.blogspot.com/2015/07/israeli-missile-downed-mh17.html
the upsetting part for me personally was that they chose my peaceful handle to name the horrible device![]()
...so, the israeli air-to-air pyton was selected b/c of the shape and size of the striking elements and its infrared homing in addition to the radar homing.blutto said:python said:^^...speaking of THE israeli missiles, have you folks known that the latest shot-down version points to exactly them as the fatal projectile. i am serious
http://aanirfan.blogspot.com/2015/07/israeli-missile-downed-mh17.html
the upsetting part for me personally was that they chose my peaceful handle to name the horrible device![]()
....find below an article that examines this story in greater detail...
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/07/russia-today/did-an-israeli-python-missile-destroy-mh-17/
....oddly enough a Russia Today article presented on a prominent American libertarian site....go figure...
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blutto said:"WASHINGTON—Following Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s heated objections to the nuclear deal struck between the United States and Iran, American officials announced Tuesday that they were calming the upset head of government by treating him to a nice, big shipment of ballistic missiles. “Bibi always gets a little cranky when he sees us talking to Iran, but a few dozen short-range surface-to-surface missiles usually cheer him right up,” said State Department spokesperson Daniel Goldman, adding that the shipment of MGM-140 ATACMS missiles should be enough to settle the sullen Israeli leader down at least for the deal’s crucial early implementation stages. “Of course, we try not to spoil him by giving him a whole new tactical ballistics delivery system every single time he throws a fit, but our guy’s pretty good at getting his way. At least we’ll have a couple months of peace and quiet around here.” Goldman went on to say that the U.S. was saving its shipment of missile defense system components in case Netanyahu got worked up during Israel-Palestine peace negotiations later this year."
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python said:...so, the israeli air-to-air pyton was selected b/c of the shape and size of the striking elements and its infrared homing in addition to the radar homing.blutto said:python said:^^...speaking of THE israeli missiles, have you folks known that the latest shot-down version points to exactly them as the fatal projectile. i am serious
http://aanirfan.blogspot.com/2015/07/israeli-missile-downed-mh17.html
the upsetting part for me personally was that they chose my peaceful handle to name the horrible device![]()
....find below an article that examines this story in greater detail...
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/07/russia-today/did-an-israeli-python-missile-destroy-mh-17/
....oddly enough a Russia Today article presented on a prominent American libertarian site....go figure...
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the question, though, remains: how would such a missile become available to the ukrainian air force which was considered armed entirely by the soviet leftover hardware ?
apart from a general statement of some su-25s being refurbished, the article gives no answer. however, another source i saw someplace said that it might have been an israeli upgrade with georgia that would have been passed over to the ukrainians by the saakashvili govt
Alpe d'Huez said:A wild guess is that in a few years, or sooner, when this latest round fails and the backs of the Greeks are even more broken, you'll see a rise in power of the communists there. Once considered extreme and fringe, with no input. It wouldn't shock me if they end up in power.
Alpe d'Huez said:Before the Greek debacle fades from view - at least until the next payments are due and the Geeks can't pay them, or we hear more stories of people living in abject poverty that leads to violence - I would like to hear some comments from those with a better understanding of this regarding my speculation about a possible future I posted before:
Alpe d'Huez said:A wild guess is that in a few years, or sooner, when this latest round fails and the backs of the Greeks are even more broken, you'll see a rise in power of the communists there. Once considered extreme and fringe, with no input. It wouldn't shock me if they end up in power.
it's a very good question, blutto, but ultimately even if ihor-the-the-oligarrh and, by definition, an inspiration and a sponsor of the 'revolution', he'd be a mere tool in the hands of someone bigger had he been involved in the military technology mediation...blutto said:python said:...so, the israeli air-to-air pyton was selected b/c of the shape and size of the striking elements and its infrared homing in addition to the radar homing.blutto said:python said:^^...speaking of THE israeli missiles, have you folks known that the latest shot-down version points to exactly them as the fatal projectile. i am serious
http://aanirfan.blogspot.com/2015/07/israeli-missile-downed-mh17.html
the upsetting part for me personally was that they chose my peaceful handle to name the horrible device![]()
....find below an article that examines this story in greater detail...
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/07/russia-today/did-an-israeli-python-missile-destroy-mh-17/
....oddly enough a Russia Today article presented on a prominent American libertarian site....go figure...
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the question, though, remains: how would such a missile become available to the ukrainian air force which was considered armed entirely by the soviet leftover hardware ?
apart from a general statement of some su-25s being refurbished, the article gives no answer. however, another source i saw someplace said that it might have been an israeli upgrade with georgia that would have been passed over to the ukrainians by the saakashvili govt
Ihor Valeriyovych Kolomoyskyi ?
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blackcat said:python's does Ihor's religion/race have anything to do with it tho? dont think so.
And if the Israeli's are involved, they would merely be the cypher doing bidding for DC and Uncle Sam.
Israel, like you intuit, have no beef there, and no real interest, are they an associate member of the failing EU experiment? anyway, I don't see why they will be in Georgia and Ukraine and working proxy for NATO, they dont need to poke the bear (Putin/Russia), as you said.
blutto said:....more on that MH17 crash site video...with some translation of the audio...
"Later on, the man is quoted as saying that “there’s two planes taken down,” while a voice in the background says, “the fighter jet brought down this one [MH17 Boeing], and our people brought down the fighter. They [the Ukrainians] decided to do it this way, to make it look like we have brought down the plane.”
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/07/russia-today/was-there-a-2nd-aircraft-in-the-mh-17-disaster/
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