World Politics

[blutto]

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LMAO, Putin says Sepp Blatter deserves a Nobel Prize.

Which one? Peace? Economics? Chemistry? Lots of possibilities here.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/fifas-blatter-deserves-nobel-prize-says-putin-101428485--sow.html

Obviously economics. Who would have thought that greed and corruption would be so highly admired in Russia ? Putin never fails to provoke. Vladimir Provoker Putin.

....well....given the vastly greater amount of greed and corruption that has occurred ( and is occurring ) among the Wall St gang of thieves ( and which btw has not been to any real extent pursued by the DOJ though oddly they have found the time to go after Blatter ) Russia is absolutely penny-ante in comparison and given the way that this greed and corruption is so highly admired and aspired to in the olde US of A kinda leaves your point a wee bit hollow....

...the Nobel thang was a dig at Obama, the Drone King ( you know the guy who is famous for bringing that extra special gift to weddings and family gatherings across the Middle East ) and self appointed Super Special Judge Jury and Executioner for the World , who for some reason got a Nobel for Peace....so I guess given that reality on the ground Blatter should by all rights probably get a Nobel for Economics, Peace and Chemistry, its only fair eh....

....read, Putin was trolling Western hypocrisy and Obama.....and yup, given the typical Western response, absolutely ****** hilarious....

Cheers

 

[python]

i don't know if the putin remark was a dig at obama for his nobel collection. it might have been...a dig at a nobel award committee makes more contextual sense, since they immediately discontinued a common project with fifa following the 1st charges of corruption.

...you can call both vlad and blatter anything, but both proved being stubborn and independent in the face of certain main stream opinions in the west. thus, both are disliked in those parts of the world and are easy targets.

of course, vlad is paying sepp back for his steadfast support of the world cup in 2018.

 

[blutto]

....Mike Whitney on the US/Turkey/Kurd mess....

"The Kurdish militias (YPG, PKK) have been Washington’s most effective weapon in the fight against ISIS in Iraq and Syria. But the Obama administration has sold out the Kurds in order to strengthen ties with Turkey and gain access to Turkey’s Incirlik Air Base. The agreement to switch sides was made in phone call between President Obama and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan less than 48 hours after a terrorist incident in the Turkish town of Suruc killed 32 people and wounded more than 100 others.

The bombing provided Obama with the cover he needed to throw the Kurds under the bus, cave in to Turkey’s demands, and look the other way while Turkish bombers and tanks pounded Kurdish positions in Syria and Iraq. The media has characterized this shocking reversal of US policy as a “game-changer” that will improve US prospects for victory over ISIS. But what the about-face really shows is Washington’s inability to conduct a principled foreign policy as well as Obama’s eagerness to betray a trusted friend and ally if he sees some advantage in doing so."

....and...

"Just take a look at these two tweets from CNN Turkey on Saturday and you’ll see what’s going on under the radar:


@CNNTURK_ENG:
#BREAKING Sources tell CNN Türk last night Turkish jets made 159 sorties against #PKK camps in N.Iraq&hit 400 targetspic.twitter.com/oGVJmKsGbs

@CNNTURK_ENG:
#BREAKING Sources tell CNN Türk last night there was no air strike against #ISIS, targets were hit by tank fire near #Kilis.
(The tweets first appeared at Moon of Alabama)

Repeat: 159 air attacks on Kurdish positions and ZERO on ISIS targets. And the media wants us to believe that Turkey has joined Obama’s war on ISIS?"

.....from... http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/07/29/the-politics-of-betrayal-obama-backstabs-kurds-to-appease-turkey/

...seems that rare NATO meeting really straightened things out....

Cheers

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

No joke, real life Germany 2015...

"Refugees" getting "their" money, just say "Simsalabim" at the refugee bureau...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdRVANOOclo

... And millions of native germans are homless, jobless... and can´t say "Simsalabim". True native-hate towards their own germans who actually have to work for their money... But the fake left politicans don´t care that they destroy our society. It´s a shame and a big crime, the biggest of this young century...

 

[python]

...just minutes ago.
Russia vetoes bid to set up tribunal for downed flight MH17

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/29/us-ukraine-crisis-mh17-un-idUSKCN0Q32GS20150729?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews

the short reuters article said nothing about WHY. earlier today, I read a DW article in german that predicted the outcome, but also said NOTHING about the reasons WHY they would likely veto. so, i made a point to listen to the live un broadcast, that ended minutes ago...

vlad's rep at the un, certain mr. churkin, (based on the synchronous english interpretation) gave the following reasons:

1. the investigation is ongoing. thus it's premature to set up a tribunal
2. the investigation is classified (not transparent) thus it is not clear to russia (denied the investigative details) what exactly the un tribunal should prosecute and why russia should support it.
3. there was never a precedent that the un security council would even vote on the similar issues, particularly when the us missile shot down the iranian civil liner in 1999 (?) or the the ukrainian missile shot down the russian liner over a black sea in 2001

Ukraine admits missile may have downed Russian plane, http://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/oct/12/russia.israel

4. none of the russian offers to assist the investigation with its expertise or even the russian alternatives to prosecute the guilty were listened to.

'thus, we veto it'.

here is my candid opinion:

the reason #1 is a weak retort, b/c in principle, a prosecuting body framework can be set up anytime before the specific findings are finalized. the reason #2 is true or better said, a half-true. indeed russia was denied the investigative seat, but it was and is informed of the findings as they entered the dutch draft. in fact, russia was sent the complete summary draft last month. that said, i am in full agreement with them regarding the reasons ##3&4. Had i been in a similar position, i'd question why the un did not resort to a tribunal when the american and the ukrainian perpetrators shut down the civilian airlines??

it is common sense - those american and ukrainian tragedies were an accident, just like the mh17 was likely an accident...no one would benefit shooting a civilian intentionally, unless it was an even plot.

i am open to reasonable arguments as to where and why I am wrong...

 

[Amsterhammer]

Re:

...just minutes ago.
Russia vetoes bid to set up tribunal for downed flight MH17

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/29/us-ukraine-crisis-mh17-un-idUSKCN0Q32GS20150729?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews

the short reuters article said nothing about WHY. earlier today, I read a DW article in german that predicted the outcome, but also said NOTHING about the reasons WHY they would likely veto. so, i made a point to listen to the live un broadcast, that ended minutes ago...

vlad's rep at the un, certain mr. churkin, (based on the synchronous english interpretation) gave the following reasons:

1. the investigation is ongoing. thus it's premature to set up a tribunal
2. the investigation is classified (not transparent) thus it is not clear to russia (denied the investigative details) what exactly the un tribunal should prosecute and why russia should support it.
3. there was never a precedent that the un security council would even vote on the similar issues, particularly when the us missile shot down the iranian civil liner in 1999 (?) or the the ukrainian missile shot down the russian liner over a black sea in 2001

Ukraine admits missile may have downed Russian plane, http://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/oct/12/russia.israel

4. none of the russian offers to assist the investigation with its expertise or even the russian alternatives to prosecute the guilty were listened to.

'thus, we veto it'.

here is my candid opinion:

the reason #1 is a weak retort, b/c in principle, a prosecuting body framework can be set up anytime before the specific findings are finalized. the reason #2 is true or better said, a half-true. indeed russia was denied the investigative seat, but it was and is informed of the findings as they entered the dutch draft. in fact, russia was sent the complete summary draft last month. that said, i am in full agreement with them regarding the reasons ##3&4. Had i been in a similar position, i'd question why the un did not resort to a tribunal when the american and the ukrainian perpetrators shut down the civilian airlines??

it is common sense - those american and ukrainian tragedies were an accident, just like the mh17 was likely an accident...no one would benefit shooting a civilian intentionally, unless it was an even plot.

i am open to reasonable arguments as to where and why I am wrong...

Cynical, shameful, but no surprise for the Putin gangster regime.

You are wrong in the most obvious way. In the other two tragedies it was self-evident from the outset that the 'shooter' of the missiles had to be a state actor. In addition, in due course both guilty parties more or less admitted that the fault was theirs, that there was no intent, and that dreadful accidents had occurred. ('Liability and compensation is another matter.)

Here also, most rational people will accept that no one had anything to gain by deliberately shooting down a civilian airliner. Again, a tragic accident. But here, more than a year later, still no one has admitted responsibility, while the preponderance of the evidence that we have suggests rather strongly that the guilty are to be found among the separatists. The separatists could not exist or 'thrive' without Vlad's support. 'Russia' is deliberately protecting their clients from international location, interrogation, or possible prosecution or acquittal. Russia's veto in these circumstances is a gross, cynical, shameful, affront, particularly to Holland, Malaysia, and Australia.

 

[movingtarget]

Re: Re:

LMAO, Putin says Sepp Blatter deserves a Nobel Prize.

Which one? Peace? Economics? Chemistry? Lots of possibilities here.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/fifas-blatter-deserves-nobel-prize-says-putin-101428485--sow.html

Obviously economics. Who would have thought that greed and corruption would be so highly admired in Russia ? Putin never fails to provoke. Vladimir Provoker Putin.

....well....given the vastly greater amount of greed and corruption that has occurred ( and is occurring ) among the Wall St gang of thieves ( and which btw has not been to any real extent pursued by the DOJ though oddly they have found the time to go after Blatter ) Russia is absolutely penny-ante in comparison and given the way that this greed and corruption is so highly admired and aspired to in the olde US of A kinda leaves your point a wee bit hollow....

...the Nobel thang was a dig at Obama, the Drone King ( you know the guy who is famous for bringing that extra special gift to weddings and family gatherings across the Middle East ) and self appointed Super Special Judge Jury and Executioner for the World , who for some reason got a Nobel for Peace....so I guess given that reality on the ground Blatter should by all rights probably get a Nobel for Economics, Peace and Chemistry, its only fair eh....

....read, Putin was trolling Western hypocrisy and Obama.....and yup, given the typical Western response, absolutely ****** hilarious....

Cheers

I don't disagree with anything you said re greed and corruption but Putin's support of Blatter is indefensible so I have changed my mind. They should make a new prize, the Nobel for insanity. Russia's decision to veto the resolution re MH17 is also just like you said just Putin provoking as usual. As for Russia not being allowed on the crash site in the middle of a war zone in a fight they say they are not involved in, well why would they be trusted not to tamper with evidence when they have already lied through their teeth about their involvement in Eastern Ukraine and their plans for Crimea which were already on the drawing board before Maidan as Putin has admitted in a rare display of honesty. Russia can support the Syrian and Iranian regimes but not support an international investigation involving a disaster they say they had nothing to do with even denying the supply of such a weapon ? If Putin wants to a be a player in international affairs again and thinks his country is being unfairly treated, some of his recent decisions are not helping by marginalizing Russia even more. Maybe this is the beginning of the New Russian Empire. It is starting to look like the Cold War all over again. Maybe he will enjoy better relations with someone like Donald Trump !

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Children with learning disabilities are thrown out of schools made for them... for "refugees"... Germany 2015... The native-hate towards the own original Germans knows no borders. True and plain racism. The fake left politicans even take on the weakest original germans now! I only watch in disgust. As I said before: The biggest crime of this century. Right in the heart of Europe.
http://www.focus.de/politik/deutschland/nahe-koeln-eltern-sind-empoert-kinder-sollen-foerderschule-fuer-fluechtlinge-raeumen_id_4850984.html

 

[blackcat]

Re: Re:

I don't disagree with anything you said re greed and corruption but Putin's support of Blatter is indefensible so I have changed my mind. They should make a new prize, the Nobel for insanity. Russia's decision to veto the resolution re MH17 is also just like you said just Putin provoking as usual. As for Russia not being allowed on the crash site in the middle of a war zone in a fight they say they are not involved in, well why would they be trusted not to tamper with evidence when they have already lied through their teeth about their involvement in Eastern Ukraine and their plans for Crimea which were already on the drawing board before Maidan as Putin has admitted in a rare display of honesty. Russia can support the Syrian and Iranian regimes but not support an international investigation involving a disaster they say they had nothing to do with even denying the supply of such a weapon ? If Putin wants to a be a player in international affairs again and thinks his country is being unfairly treated, some of his recent decisions are not helping by marginalizing Russia even more. Maybe this is the beginning of the New Russian Empire. It is starting to look like the Cold War all over again. Maybe he will enjoy better relations with someone like Donald Trump !

Stephen Cohen has been saying this for the last half a dozen years since the encroachment east of NATO. Actually, it started with RAND and GWBush and the Star Wars ICBM defence system in Poland, which has antecedents with Reagan (no?)

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Against german natives hate speech from germans and so-called "germans". May God help us.
https://deutschfeindlichesprueche.wordpress.com/
Racists (especially the people from the "green" party) working against everything our fathers and mothers built from ashes. Anger.
What is going on here is a plain and simple population transposition, a reversion of natives... a cold-hearted extinction of origins, executed by corrupt "german" native haters.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

USA sends a german woman home (she only wanted to visit her aunt)... Handy controlled, Facebook controlled (at the Airport ) > send back...
And now some US citizen living in Europe wanted to teach me I am a anorak racist, xenophobe, etc.! What is U.S.A. then? First they start wars here and there, and then send us the "refugees". And if we talk against it, hell breaks loose. But if they (USA) behave much much more extreme, it´s ok, nothing to see... The hypocrisy can´t get bigger than that.

Link: (use google translator)
http://www.welt.de/vermischtes/article144819484/19-Jaehrige-darf-wegen-Facebook-Chats-nicht-einreisen.html

 

[blutto]

.....interesting...
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"Germany has profited greatly from the Greek debt crisis as it was revealed on Monday that the German government has saved up to 100 billion euros ($109 billion) in interest since 2010.

In the study conducted by the Halle Institute fro Economic Research (IWH), it was revealed that Germany saved through lower interest payments on funds the government borrowed amid investor "flights to safety."

"These savings exceed the costs of the crisis -- even if Greece were to default on its entire debt," said the private, non-profit Leibniz Institute of Economic Research in its paper.
...
"Every time financial markets faced negative news on Greece in recent years, interest rates on German government bonds fell, and every time there was good news, they rose."


Read more: http://www.dailysabah.com/economy/2015/08/10/german-govt-saves-up-to-100-billion-euros-in-interest-thanks-to-greece-debt-crisis



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33845836


This note shows that the German public sector balance benefited significantly from the
European/Greek debt crisis, because of lower interest payments on public sector debt. This is due to
two effects: One, in crisis times investors disproportionately seek out safe investments (“flight to
safety”), bidding down the returns on safe-haven assets. We show that German bunds strongly
benefited from this effect during the Greek debt crisis. Second, while the European Central Bank
(ECB) monetary policy stance was quite close to an “optimal” monetary policy stance for Germany
from 1999 to 2007, during the crisis monetary policy was too accommodating from a German
perspective, due to the emerging disparities across the Euro area. As a result of these two effects, our
calculations suggest that the German sovereign saved more than 100 billion Euros in interest expenses
between 2010 and mid-2015. That is, Germany benefited from the Greek crisis even in case that
Greece defaults on all its debt (a total of 90 billions) owed to the German government via diverse
channels (European Stability Mechanism , International Monetary Fund , or directly).

http://www.iwh-halle.de/d/publik/iwhonline/io_2015-07.pdf

Cheers

 

[python]

Europe's contribution to Israeli colonialism

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2015/08/europe-contribution-israeli-colonialism-150813074831746.html

an insightful, impassioned and loaded with cold facts article....

 

[Echoes]

In order to second Python's post ...

We all remember the January 11 demonstration/imposture orchestrated by Mr Netanyahu in (his own) Paris:

Now the same Paris is organizing a festival called "Tel Aviv sur Seine" in order to legitimise Israel's action among the French public, to making the Israeli ideology friendly and "close to the people" far from the Gaza bombing, far from Palestinian babies burnt alive, ... Paris is really colonized. So disgraceful.

 

[Archibald]

Now the same Paris is organizing a festival called "Tel Aviv sur Seine" in order to legitimise Israel's action among the French public, to making the Israeli ideology friendly and "close to the people" far from the Gaza bombing, far from Palestinian babies burnt alive, ... Paris is really colonized. So disgraceful.

what's with that image - so clearly doctored it's not funny...

 

[blutto]

Now the same Paris is organizing a festival called "Tel Aviv sur Seine" in order to legitimise Israel's action among the French public, to making the Israeli ideology friendly and "close to the people" far from the Gaza bombing, far from Palestinian babies burnt alive, ... Paris is really colonized. So disgraceful.

what's with that image - so clearly doctored it's not funny...

....that, dear sir, is a budding "academic" polishing his resume with powerful insight and facts and figures and in-camera proof....

....I mean, who could argue with this but evil dastardly librrrls...

Cheers

 

[Semper Fidelis]

The kid with the surfboard looks a little out of place NO?

lmao at this picture. Doctored photo does not begin to describe it. (someone has some wicked photoshop skillz)

 

[Echoes]

And this is doctored, perhaps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knc3VGeHXxw ! Bunch of Zionists!

 

[blutto]

....I guess some apologies are in order....that original photo was not photo shopped but reality most certainly underwent something similar....sorta like something out of Wag the Dog ain't it...

Cheers

 

[Amsterhammer]

Tsipras resigns, new elections Sept. 20.

 

[ray j willings]

I posted this in the Malaysian plane thread
"I would like to chip in ....I told my Wife quite some time ago That Malaysia would start being in the headlines. The US want Governments on-board with their polices and political agenda. Malaysia does not tow the US line. The Missing plane is just one of many stories from Malaysia that have been in the headlines in recent times.
Look at the story that is all over the news right now. Its the nudists breaking the law in Malaysia.
Put that story in to context ,,,,its a nothing story. It would not make page 7 in a newspaper on any given day.
Did you know in Malaysia they showed a documentary on TV at peak time explaining how 9/11 was a US government inside job.
The media's job now is to show Malaysia in a bad light and chip away at those in charge for a US friendly regime.
You may think I have gone a conspiracy theory to far but It is Starting to happen and you watch , we will see more stories coming out that will try and make Malaysia look bad and their leaders.
As for the Plane I have no idea. Seems to be a lot of miss information....Something is not right. There a lots of ways to track a Plane besides the usual communication. Engine transmitter data etc Something going on here IMO. Someone knows exactly what happened to that plane.
The news media were trying to set up the Pilot as a patsy ,,,,that's Bulls%%%"


Now look what's happening in Malaysia with the PM and his money fraud accusations etc etc...I told you this would happen. He will be gone and a US /WESTERN pro policy led government will be in charge.
No conspiracy, its happening just like I said.

 

[python]

...india is often referred to in the western media as 'the biggest/largest democracy'. the tag is particularly faved in the us to liken india to the us when a political expediency is convenient to downcast undemocratic china and russia...in that regard, the following article greatly chilled me re. india's democracy

India village council orders rapes of two sisters
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/08/india-village-council-orders-rapes-sisters-150829145847675.html

 

[wendybnt]

When the Russians start parading their own crack SEAL team, you know that an the east-west confrontation is in full swing:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7e3_1440888381

 

[wendybnt]

Re: Re:

...india is often referred to in the western media as 'the biggest/largest democracy'. the tag is particularly faved in the us to liken india to the us when a political expediency is convenient to downcast undemocratic china and russia...in that regard, the following article greatly chilled me re. india's democracy

India village council orders rapes of two sisters
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/08/india-village-council-orders-rapes-sisters-150829145847675.html

And is that islamic "law" or hindu?
.

Neither. It is not law, but a decree from a village council.

The key thing is that the girls belong to the Dalit caste, which means that from birth they are destined to be treated as utter scum.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

...india is often referred to in the western media as 'the biggest/largest democracy'. the tag is particularly faved in the us to liken india to the us when a political expediency is convenient to downcast undemocratic china and russia...in that regard, the following article greatly chilled me re. india's democracy

India village council orders rapes of two sisters
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/08/india-village-council-orders-rapes-sisters-150829145847675.html

And is that islamic "law" or hindu?
.

Neither. It is not law, but a decree from a village council.

The key thing is that the girls belong to the Dalit caste, which means that from birth they are destined to be treated as utter scum.

Heard about the caste system was still in work in India back in the school days. And now I see they havnt improved an inch. But at least we downgrade ourselves, to reach their level for a better "one-world" without borders. Kill the nations, yeah, all evil nationalists... Sarcasm off now.