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hektoren said:
Still haven't improved on your reading ability, then. He was merely pointing to the fact that the "American Dream" is seriously flawed. The notion that anybody can be what they want to be, by putting in the working-hours, talent and dedication is a hoax. It's not true in the good ol' Us of A, it's not true in Europe, it's not true anywhere, really. We're really not the captains of identical ships on our way to bliss. Some start out in yachts, some can't swim and you know it's true, so why not just shut up? As bigoted right-wing Americans go, you rank with the finest.

I see that you still are against the democratic ideals of freedom of speech and thought.
 
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CentralCaliBike said:
There are a number of conservatives that consider government the vehicle to protect and insure the physical safety of it's citizens. Their complaints start when it goes a great distance from that priority while at the same time giving less attention and resources to that basic need.

Yeah, that's what I said, but it should do more than that.
 
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CentralCaliBike said:
Sounds good - we have farms in this area, lots of them. The people who own the farms tend to be fairly well off. I guess we should tax them a lot more since they clearly are not paying their fair share. Then, when the parents die, we should make the estate sell off the property. Unfortunately not many people out there will be able to purchase the farm since we are taxing the all of the wealthy the profits enough to they cannot get that way.

Exactly my point! You are basically paraphrasing that not all people are born equal, and would therefore be (dis)advantaged to realize their full potential. Some are born as farmer sons/daughters and would therefore be one of the few to actually own and operate a farm. For future generations to remain in the farming business, you assert, inheritance (its laws and regulations) is an essential vehicle.

Some would say access to a minimum form of health care and good education would also be contributing factors for people to realize their potential and become productive members of society. Also the non-land owning farmworkers...

In the meantime the guys who were paid to milk the cows, pick the oranges, drive the crop to the markets are now unemployed since there is no one to pay them. Also, the food which would have been produced by the farm is not going to make it into the markets, however, I am sure this will be covered by the surviving farmers who are not going to be allowed to become wealthy through inheritance, hard work, planning, or the purchasing and production of any product.

Some observations regarding your romanticized ideal of farm life

- due to farmers' large families, many farms got split up between sons/daughters, to the point that they became inefficient and went bankrupt.

- 'economies of scale' has pushed many small farmers out of business, because large corporate farms have taken over. These corporate structures have driven down prices so much

1) that people have forgotten the true value of food.
2) that newcomers can barely enter the market because there is no profit to make on a small scale.
3) that crops and livestock needs to be manipulated to grow as fast as possible, often with disregard for animal and human health/well-being.

- many hard working people who would lose their seasonal farm jobs are here 'illegally', because many a hard working American doesn't want to pick berries, grapes, strawberries, dig up asparagus, plant crops, bend over 12 hours a day to pick weeds, muck out the dirt, toil in the mud, do heavy lifting that incapacitates one after 20 years in the work force, only to realize his meager income has run dry and he can't even afford health care to have his ruined back checked out...

According to the Economic Research Service:

Agricultural work is frequently a means of entering the U.S. labor market for foreign-born Hispanics. Consequently, most farmworkers are ethnically Hispanic, male, White, and married. Compared with all wage and salary workers, farmworkers are about five years younger on average and are far more likely to be male and Hispanic.

Data from the CPS also indicate that almost 40 percent of all farmworkers are foreign-born and lack U.S. citizenship, proportions that are substantially higher than for all wage and salary workers. The CPS data do not indicate how many of those without citizenship possess legal work status. Data from the National Agricultural Workers Survey (NAWS) suggest that half of all hired farmworkers in crops are unauthorized. The high proportion of foreign-born workers and the low-skill requirements of much non-managerial farm labor help explain why education levels of farmworkers are significantly lower than those of all wage and salary workers. Most foreign-born workers come from rural communities in Latin America, principally Mexico, where education attainment levels are considerably lower than in urban areas. (source)

It's hard working people all right, but also those who receive the short end of the stick (wage, health care, education) so that others can eat a 1$ hormone burger at the Royal Wendy McPaddywack shack.
 
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Bala Verde said:
Some observations regarding your romanticized ideal of farm life

- due to farmers' large families, many farms got split up between sons/daughters, to the point that they became inefficient and went bankrupt.

- 'economies of scale' has pushed many small farmers out of business, because large corporate farms have taken over. These corporate structures have driven down prices so much . . .

http://www.pdfdownload.org/pdf2html/pdf2html.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nrcs.usda.gov%2FTechnical%2Fnri%2Fpubs%2Frca%2FappendixA.pdf&images=yes

Not sure you can call it romanticism - I think I might have mentioned there is a lot of farming in where I live, I actually am speaking from experience.

There is a reason that a lot of farms of family corporations - not large corporations that has been claimed in this thread - see link above. Of course some do go bankrupt - so do a lot of owner proprietor businesses, that is one of the risks in attempting to become a capitalist.
 
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CentralCaliBike said:
http://www.pdfdownload.org/pdf2html/pdf2html.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nrcs.usda.gov%2FTechnical%2Fnri%2Fpubs%2Frca%2FappendixA.pdf&images=yes

Not sure you can call it romanticism - I think I might have mentioned there is a lot of farming in where I live, I actually am speaking from experience.

There is a reason that a lot of farms of family corporations - not large corporations that has been claimed in this thread - see link above. Of course some do go bankrupt - so do a lot of owner proprietor businesses, that is one of the risks in attempting to become a capitalist.

I hope nobody ever puts me on a lie detector and it's revealed accurately how many pop tarts, mystery meat tacos from Jack in the Box,scoops of eggnog ice cream, or microwave burritos and Slurpees I am really responsible for buying. I didn't feel all that bad eating crappy food and until a few years ago. I didn't want to think about all the costs that are associated with factory farming. Bad made worse, seeing the animals condition make me cringe but to see how farm labor is treated makes me feel real guilt. I hope to vote and eat my way to the right side. Given a few 1000 words to choose from I would never describe a farmer as a capitalist, or the the migrant picking fruit a capitalist. Your weave makes the word feel really dirty. In non-capitalist cultures the math tutor, shoe maker,dentist or baker have a role to play for the good of all, and when you cut one of the jobs I mentioned out and replace it with Nike or Wonder it doesn't take long for everything to come unglued. I am trying not to watch movies Like Food Inc or Super size me but I do so I can keep things in perspective while watching the big screen eating another slice of pie.
 
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CentralCaliBike said:
There are a number of conservatives that consider government the vehicle to protect and insure the physical safety of it's citizens. Their complaints start when it goes a great distance from that priority while at the same time giving less attention and resources to that basic need.

They are doing a real good job protecting and insuring the physical safety of it's citizens are they not?

45,000 people die every year because they don't have health insurance.
 
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Cobblestones said:
Anyway, what's this about Avatar? I have no clue. Is it another 'Conservatives against Hollywood elite' BS? What's the movie about? Conservapedia is not up to date.

The film is anti war, anti imperialism, and pro environment. There are hits against U.S. Iraq/war on terror policy. It is also gorgeous with incredibly detailed special effects, and good use of 3D. It is james Cameron's first movie since Titanic. It is the "event movie" of the year. And it will be hugly popular based on the visuals alone, especially with young people. Theaters are selling out.

The film's politics are basically everything the conservatives hate about the "Hollywood elite" and its sure to be, massive popularity is sure to infuriate them to no end.

The ironic thing is that the film was made by Fox studios.
 
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BroDeal said:
The film is anti war, anti imperialism, and pro environment. There are hits against U.S. Iraq/war on terror policy. It is also gorgeous with incredibly detailed special effects, and good use of 3D. It is james Cameron's first movie since Titanic. It is the "event movie" of the year. And it will be hugly popular based on the visuals alone, especially with young people. Theaters are selling out.

The film's politics are basically everything the conservatives hate about the "Hollywood elite" and its sure to be, massive popularity is sure to infuriate them to no end.

The ironic thing is that the film was made by Fox studios.

I figure I will see it and seriously doubt that it will both me since I usually consider movies to be entertainment and not reality. Besides, I guess you could consider it a balance for the popular show "V".
 
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CentralCaliBike said:
http://www.pdfdownload.org/pdf2html/pdf2html.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nrcs.usda.gov%2FTechnical%2Fnri%2Fpubs%2Frca%2FappendixA.pdf&images=yes

Not sure you can call it romanticism - I think I might have mentioned there is a lot of farming in where I live, I actually am speaking from experience.

There is a reason that a lot of farms of family corporations - not large corporations that has been claimed in this thread - see link above. Of course some do go bankrupt - so do a lot of owner proprietor businesses, that is one of the risks in attempting to become a capitalist.

According to your own source:

These middlesized farms, whose numbers are rapidly dwindling, account for 36.6 percent of total sales.

Furthermore:

Because most farms are small but most production occurs on large farms, common measures of representative farm size—the average and median—obscure large changes in the concentration of production. Average and median measures of farm size focus on the typical farm, which is small, rather than the typical acre of farmland, which is associated with a larger operation.

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On the other hand, the acre-weighted median increased by about 35 percent since 1982, reflecting continued shifts of land to bigger operations. In 2002, the acre-weighted median was 2,190 acres—half of all farmland was on farms that were larger than that size.

In other words, farming is becoming more and more a 'too big too fail' enterprise, whereby agricultural production is concentrated in the hands of a few.

You have a tendency to infer great theories from singular experiences. "I know someone; I have seen someone; This guy told me; A friend has said" and so on and so forth. However, being near farms doesn't mean anything. Some can see Russia from Alaska, and that would hardly qualify anyone to be a profligate foreign policy specialist...

Did you ever do any meaningful and extensive work on a farm? That, IMHO, could be a measure to make your experience somewhat relevant.
 
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Bala Verde said:
Did you ever do any meaningful and extensive work on a farm? That, IMHO, could be a measure to make your experience somewhat relevant.

I have not worked in farming (the maternal side of my family own/owned several dairies, a number of ranches, and several farms - I spent some time visiting ) but I have worked with several farmers as victims of crime, as a result I understand what a crop lean is and how labor contractors operate, among other areas of farming.

the singular experience often does not consist of the entire knowledge or understanding of a subject - it may, however, highlight something in a way that statistics cannot (besides most of what we are discussing would requires reams of paper to render a full defense of any particular issue).
 
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CentralCaliBike said:
I have no argument with any of this. I do believe that the wealthy have the odds stacked in their favor, I just happen to believe that you take the elusive goal away from those who are not wealthy you will end up with far less production, and in the end a much weaker society. The wealthy may have the odds stacked in their favor, but they can end up losing it all as well from bad judgment or just pure bad luck - this actually should have happened in my opinion instead of the bail outs that we have put in place at the moment.
I would agree with you completely here.

One thing to keep in mind, all the wealthy are not the same wealthy. Not only is there a difference between a physician (or farmer for that matter) making $120,000 a year contributing to society, and multi-millionaires living off investments in low risk overseas bonds, with the money tucked away in foreign banks. All while owning 5, 6, 7 etc. huge houses, boats, private jets, etc.

There seems to be this fallacy that everyone wealthy are entrepreneurs. There's a huge difference between someone who takes $100,000 of their $400,000 savings to put into a new invention, restaurant, etc. which truly is risk, and in the American spirit, and the aforementioned wealthy who hide all their money in low risk areas, and hoard goods produced by others.
 
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I think one of the things the "conservatives" don't like most of all isn't so much paying their fair share of taxes, it's where that money goes and the lack of accountability in it.

Many think it's part of life and makes society safe and what gave them the opportunity they have to succeed (Buffet, Bill Gates Sr. and sometimes Jr. and Carl Icahn seem to espouse this).

Some genuinely believe that if there were almost no taxes, that society would function better, and take care of itself and grow faster; the lower the tax rate no matter what - this is the part I think is nonsense.

But there's also a large part that look at the same government as everyone else, and see stories about government waste and no solution other than to cut off the money supply to the government, as they'll just waste it all on lavish, extravagant goodies for themselves. This link says it all, especially the political expert at the end of the clip. Watch here (whether you're a liberal or conservative or neither, this is good local journalism at work).
 
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They probably got some gay scandal stuff on him. He is a little lispy.

btw: That journalist has some huge knockers.
 
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Alpe d'Huez said:
I would agree with you completely here.

One thing to keep in mind, all the wealthy are not the same wealthy. Not only is there a difference between a physician (or farmer for that matter) making $120,000 a year contributing to society, and multi-millionaires living off investments in low risk overseas bonds, with the money tucked away in foreign banks. All while owning 5, 6, 7 etc. huge houses, boats, private jets, etc.

There seems to be this fallacy that everyone wealthy are entrepreneurs. There's a huge difference between someone who takes $100,000 of their $400,000 savings to put into a new invention, restaurant, etc. which truly is risk, and in the American spirit, and the aforementioned wealthy who hide all their money in low risk areas, and hoard goods produced by others.

I would imagine that the "top 1%" on the wealth chart represents almost entirely "old" money. Even a sports star who, lets say signs a 50 million 5 year contract and buys a 6mil house (compound?) in south Miami (for instance), gets a couple cars, and spends like most young guys who suddenly have a lot of cash do, is not going to register very high on the wealth chart. Not as high as someone who inherited 20mil and 3 big houses and rental properties would. But they are both miles above the corporate lawyer making only 750,000 per year with a mortgage on a 1.5 mil house, 200K in student loans and a wife and 3 kids. All of them of course are so far above most of us that we couldn't even spit on them (say we wanted to do such a thing). We all are the 75% folks, and here we sit worrying (some of us) about how "taken advantage" of the 10% at the top is.
 
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Alpe d'Huez said:
Some genuinely believe that if there were almost no taxes, that society would function better, and take care of itself and grow faster; the lower the tax rate no matter what - this is the part I think is nonsense.

I do not see these as conservatives, I think they are better labeled anarchists, but usually they call themselves "constitutionalists".
 
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Alpe d'Huez said:
I would agree with you completely here.

One thing to keep in mind, all the wealthy are not the same wealthy. Not only is there a difference between a physician (or farmer for that matter) making $120,000 a year contributing to society, and multi-millionaires living off investments in low risk overseas bonds, with the money tucked away in foreign banks. All while owning 5, 6, 7 etc. huge houses, boats, private jets, etc.

There seems to be this fallacy that everyone wealthy are entrepreneurs. There's a huge difference between someone who takes $100,000 of their $400,000 savings to put into a new invention, restaurant, etc. which truly is risk, and in the American spirit, and the aforementioned wealthy who hide all their money in low risk areas, and hoard goods produced by others.

Unfortunately, most low risk assets cover government spending (bonds mostly).
 
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Well, some would consider the growth on bonds such as CocaCola, Exxon, Nabisco, the S&P 500, etc. to be low-risk. And when you've got $75m to your name, to only get 4-6% interest is already way more money than you'll ever spend.

Baird has a doctorate in psychiatry, so maybe he's a little crazy. I think he was just fed up with everything, and didn't like stories like this appearing calling him out for spending DOUBLE the amount a normal person would for a plush vacation.
 
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CentralCaliBike said:
I do not see these as conservatives, I think they are better labeled anarchists, but usually they call themselves "constitutionalists".
Yes, I think this is a problem the "right" has. One one hand, there is this part claiming to be the pure aspect of the party. And on the other, the so called neocons who seem to act like it's okay for government to assist cherry picked industries or programs, as long as it grows the country or benefits America in their perception under the guise of supply-side econommics (though not in the strict sense Art Laffer wrote of at all). Though they may not say so, that's pretty much how I view the Dick Cheneys and Mitt Romneys of the world. Then on the other side you have the Austrian school part of the GOP that influenced Ron Paul, but many of them tend to be a magnet to the "constitutionalists".

Of course the so called "Left" has just as many problems, and is arguably more fake, as they lie to the working people while operating under a very similar economic set as the neocons, but with a wanton to spend more money they don't have in the name of "growth".

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Swimsuit photo

Swimsuit photo
We usually figure in the photo, that they will without hesitation to put the camera on the flat with the eye height. In particular, the male friends in the pictures when the MM are basically men is relatively high, so easy to form when taking pictures down from the point of view. This perspective of the reasons is because the pictures of the MM head large and physically small (seems to be shorter-than-life) effects. Unless there are special purpose, otherwise there is absolutely MM has been adapted to this would be very unhappy.
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The correct approach is to take pictures of the time for me to bend over slightly to allow cameras at his chest while standing up and down the height, so that will be able to shoot ratio of the average, the natural posture photos. While bent over to take pictures some trouble, but for their own short film than those who are very valuable. Generally in magazines or on television we often see that when the photographer shooting models and Kazakhstan will be bending back the scene, that is for this reason.
Which, in turn, then shoot up from below will make people's head is relatively small, she is looking higher. But still have to pay attention to the performance of the main face. The use of extreme perspective of the following would also be taken if the more interesting results.
Summer, swim-dress, of course, for the kind of cheerful, bright atmosphere. I like wearing a moving-off superior product anizzia swimsuit photo. Especially the beach or the swimming pool in summer, due to relatively strong sunlight, so the sky or the sea water swimming pool water, is much brighter than the figure should be. At this time if it is DC's own metering to control the exposure, will MM looks pretty dark.
Then there are two ways to avoid such a situation, one of which is the exposure compensation.
MM in the last seaside swimsuit shoot tutorial We have also mentioned the use of exposure compensation, we might look at the review here again. When using the camera automatic transmission, more prone to the dark figure's face was cover in the shadow of the hair. This is because the background was bright, so that the camera's metering system to produce illusion caused.
However, the use of exposure compensation will then become bright, then the whole picture, photos, the atmosphere is completely different. Especially in the summer, the girl was in the sky, regardless of your photos overexposure to no details have been, as long as their own white enough. If you shoot MM feel somewhat dark, you can increase the exposure compensation supplemented one.
Increase fruit exposure compensation is also dark, then we should use the second method, that is, the use of flash fill light. In broad daylight, the mandatory use of DC flash function, you can fill bare. And can make the eyes appear on reflective white point (commonly known as the eyes light), very beautiful. If used properly, can produce eye girl cartoon characters that appear frequently ☆ effects (Oh, exaggerated points, but still very nice).
 
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Ride preparation

Cycling has so many benefits, nor is it the bicycle can start the road. We need to be fully prepared, the experts prompt us to:

The first is selection of motorcycle and bicycle is best designed specifically for long-distance travel, the car both before and after the frame, variable speed, and according to different road choose a different vehicle belt;
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The second was to adjust the car, usually while riding a bicycle travel is to look, freedom, speed is not very important, is convenient, comfortable, according to this asked for a transfer car seat to ride by the middle of the axilla on the seat, the Ministry of hands to touch wheel axis, in order to touch the subject, that is, those who ride the right seat height. Handlebar and the seat at the same horizontal plane as well, between the high and low in the cede. Check whether the continuity of transmission, front and rear brake is sensitive and can be put in the front and rear with a tube inside a number of Trapping fluid, if leakage is necessary to check and removal of piercing objects to the hole on North Korea, sufficient air can automatically fill zone;

The third is a tool, for just in case, should bring some to match your choice of bicycle tools and parts, such as scissors, wooden nail file, multi-purpose wrench, travel pump, glue, scissors filed a good small piece of rubber, inner zone, outer with each one to prepare for an emergency;

Fourth, clothing, general long-distance bike trip more choices summer and autumn, then the best choice of bike riding-dress, and its advantage is tight, no additional resistance, riding trousers with leather pad, or simulation Leather, wear , breathable, wind and small flying insects in order, but also wear riding glasses. Some people like to wear helmets when traveling to prevent a traffic accident, in fact, cycling cap is more practical, more comfortable and economical.

In short, to master the correct riding techniques is very important. Master the riding speed, nose sniffing the main call. For use mouth breathing, indicating strength too, should be properly slow down. Uphill downhill also need to change gear. For deceleration, brake brake after application, or external with a great injury. Prior to doing a long bike ride, it is best to do some short trips in order to adapt.
 
Neoconservatism is a euphemism for "fascist capitalism" (and with the illegal war the neocons caused in Iraq, "fascist democracy" too). In the true darwinian spirit, though also colored by a good dose of machiavellian realpolitk, their guiding ideology could be summed up thusly: "power and wealth enjoys the privilidges it is entitled to, the poor suffer as they must."

Conservative America, with its vox popolito be found in the talking heads of FoxNews and Rush Limbaugh, would have us believe that the Nation is under threat from a massive left-wing, neo-Bolshevik conspiricy that will be ruinous to their way of life and the so called "American Dream."

What they forget, however, is that America isn't early 20th century Russia, that the Tzar isn't in command (won't be back to depose, unless as a conservative tyrannt they impose over us); and that most Americans who want something like socialized healthcare have no intention of giving up their Sunday afternoons at the local shopping mall. But they would like to see an America that lives up to the human rights and democratic values which it is supposedly based upon and, by virtue of which, they have been told should be a universal model of Good Government. They are also rather indignant with the way in which their political elite has systematically conceded far too many privildges to the wealthiest class over the past several decades and would like to see a just change in the way government spending is being done, so that they at least get some tangible return on the taxes they spend.

To them neo-conservative America seems like a sinister private club (composed of behind the scenes conspirers), which uses its immense finacial resources toward a sly mass media propagandistic campaign to tell the Nation that to help the less fortunate with public spending is evil and ungodly. To attack those not "with us," the providential destiny of the rightous of a "chosen" nation, whose national colors are naturally red, white and blue. Those on the opposite side of the ideological fence with a discerning eye, however, can see right through the smoke sceen that covers up the conservatives headquarter's door, upon which is a sign that reads, like in the Oliver Stone film about Wall Street: "Greed is Good."

They would also find themselves in complete accord with that slogan in Mell Brooks' History of the World Part I (a true cult classic of the 80's), uttered unanimously by the ancient Roman senate (that, too, was a conserative body) in regards to taxation and public spending: "Fook the poor!"
 
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BroDeal said:
The film is anti war, anti imperialism, and pro environment. There are hits against U.S. Iraq/war on terror policy. It is also gorgeous with incredibly detailed special effects, and good use of 3D. It is james Cameron's first movie since Titanic. It is the "event movie" of the year. And it will be hugly popular based on the visuals alone, especially with young people. Theaters are selling out.

The film's politics are basically everything the conservatives hate about the "Hollywood elite" and its sure to be, massive popularity is sure to infuriate them to no end.

The ironic thing is that the film was made by Fox studios.

That's not irony....it is by design. It makes alot of money and stirs up the mouth breathers, which is good for fauxnews ratings. It's a win-win for Fox.

When this movie comes out on blue-ray, will it have to be viewed in 3D or can it be watched on a regular 1080P set?
 
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scribe said:
btw: That journalist has some huge knockers.

Yeah, no shyt. The first one was hot as well. I didn't like either of their mouths, though. :D

What was that clip about again?
 
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