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I thought they preferred to be called Ukraine without the article attached.

....its a translation thing....and leaves a huge remainder when divided simply...I'm kinda Ukrainian, and have been for a while, so I kinda know...read, no easy solution...

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it's kinda interesting. both politically and linguistically.

i did notice you use the definitive article all the time. i think i understand why.

not sure if 99.999% of ethnic ukrainians (of course those who don't speak english as their 1st like you) would have come even close to understanding your deeper motive. the reason is rather simple - as i understand it - there are NO articles (neither definite nor indefinite) in the ukrainian language as there probably are none in ANY slavic language. at least i know for a fact there are none in the czech language which i more or less understand due to living there and which is related to the ukrainian language.

as a speaker of many europen languages you may be surprised when i say that the german language (or for that matter), the french, italian or spanish would use the name of the country your parents hale from pretty much the way you do. with the article.

just thought it may be entertaining to comment on :) ...
 
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python said:
blutto said:
djpbaltimore said:
I thought they preferred to be called Ukraine without the article attached.

....its a translation thing....and leaves a huge remainder when divided simply...I'm kinda Ukrainian, and have been for a while, so I kinda know...read, no easy solution...

Cheers
it's kinda interesting. both politically and linguistically.

i did notice you use the definitive article all the time. i think i understand why.

not sure if 99.999% of ethnic ukrainians (of course those who don't speak english as their 1st like you) would have come even close to understanding your deeper motive. the reason is rather simple - as i understand it - there are NO articles (neither definite nor indefinite) in the ukrainian language as there probably are none in ANY slavic language. at least i know for a fact there are none in the czech language which i more or less understand due to living there and which is related to the ukrainian language.

as a speaker of many europen languages you may be surprised when i say that the german language (or for that matter), the french, italian or spanish would use the name of the country your parents hale from pretty much the way you do. with the article.

just thought it may be entertaining to comment on :) ...

....thank you so much for that....yeah English was not my first language, Ukrainian was...and I swear that my brain is still wired Ukrainian and I translate my thoughts thru Ukrainian into English...this produces some pretty interesting grammar at times....

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Incredible news, a western politician with power has criticised the Saudis. Bozza is speaking sense for once. I mean, we still sell them a ton of arms they use to bomb hospitals and stuff for no real reason but at least it is a start.
 
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Incredible news, a western politician with power has criticised the Saudis. Bozza is speaking sense for once. I mean, we still sell them a ton of arms they use to bomb hospitals and stuff for no real reason but at least it is a start.

AND Russia/Iran not only does the same for Syria but russia aircraft also participate in dropping cluster weapons on civilians. Both are really ugly but 2 sides of that street. At least Russia has somewhat better human rights record, as long as you aren't a jounalist.
 
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...Killbilly cyber warfare ?....and lets not get into discussing Madame Secretary which just blows my mind every time I peek in on it...at best its sort of a Blue Bloods for wonks....

In an email release on Tuesday, WikiLeaks revealed that The Colbert Report was colluding with the Clinton Global Initiative, years before Hillary Clinton’s campaign was officially launched.In an email from Craig Minassian of the Clinton Global Initiative to John Podesta, the former asserts that the show aired two episodes that he “had them do.” The episodes focused on presenting the Clinton Foundation in a positive light.

“I hope you got a chance to see the The Colbert Report’s two special episodes I had them do about CGI U that we taped in St. Louis this weekend,” Minassian wrote. “This is the link to last nights with a sketch about commitments and the monologue and WJC (Bill Clinton) interview aired Monday. Hope you enjoy and looking forward to your feedback. Next will be your Colbert appearance!” The show has long supported Democratic candidates and policies, but it was not previously clear that they had been taking direct orders from the operatives of party figureheads.

On Wednesday’s episode of Stephen Colbert’s new gig at CBS’s The Late Show, the host addressed the email, by jokingly saying that “she can’t afford me.” “A conspiracy is what villains do. An agreement is what adults do,” Colbert said.

Read more: https://sputniknews.com/us/201612091048342279-wikileaks-clinton-colbert-collusion/

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Brullnux said:
Incredible news, a western politician with power has criticised the Saudis. Bozza is speaking sense for once. I mean, we still sell them a ton of arms they use to bomb hospitals and stuff for no real reason but at least it is a start.

AND Russia/Iran not only does the same for Syria but russia aircraft also participate in dropping cluster weapons on civilians. Both are really ugly but 2 sides of that street. At least Russia has somewhat better human rights record, as long as you aren't a jounalist.
Agreed that the russians are wrongly participating in attacks on civilians, although I feel it is mofe justified due to who is on the other side (isis and al nusra). However, there is no doubt a better solution but the US will not work with Putin, despite it being the best option to save Syrian lives.
 
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Brullnux said:
Bustedknuckle said:
Brullnux said:
Incredible news, a western politician with power has criticised the Saudis. Bozza is speaking sense for once. I mean, we still sell them a ton of arms they use to bomb hospitals and stuff for no real reason but at least it is a start.

AND Russia/Iran not only does the same for Syria but russia aircraft also participate in dropping cluster weapons on civilians. Both are really ugly but 2 sides of that street. At least Russia has somewhat better human rights record, as long as you aren't a jounalist.
Agreed that the russians are wrongly participating in attacks on civilians, although I feel it is mofe justified due to who is on the other side (isis and al nusra). However, there is no doubt a better solution but the US will not work with Putin, despite it being the best option to save Syrian lives.

....here is a question...are the Russians targeting civilians exclusively ?.....or are they targeting hostile targets that are in areas with high civilian concentrations ?.....

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Brullnux said:
Bustedknuckle said:
Brullnux said:
Incredible news, a western politician with power has criticised the Saudis. Bozza is speaking sense for once. I mean, we still sell them a ton of arms they use to bomb hospitals and stuff for no real reason but at least it is a start.

AND Russia/Iran not only does the same for Syria but russia aircraft also participate in dropping cluster weapons on civilians. Both are really ugly but 2 sides of that street. At least Russia has somewhat better human rights record, as long as you aren't a jounalist.
Agreed that the russians are wrongly participating in attacks on civilians, although I feel it is more justified due to who is on the other side (isis and al nusra). However, there is no doubt a better solution but the US will not work with Putin, despite it being the best option to save Syrian lives.

And to another poster, Russia, with their glorious daytime aviators are indeed purposely targeting civilian areas and hospitals as a terror campaign to force the rebels to either flee or surrender. Their targeting os ISIS and NUSRA plays a minor role to their helping Syria(and Iran) to target civilians on purpose.

I think donnie WILL align with Vlad, form some sort of alliance to 'defeat' ISIS(see VietNam tho, they will melt into the towns and cities. They will own the night) and allow Al-Assad to defeat the 'rebels'. Blood of Syrian civilians will be on don's hands too.
 
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blutto said:
Brullnux said:
Bustedknuckle said:
Brullnux said:
Incredible news, a western politician with power has criticised the Saudis. Bozza is speaking sense for once. I mean, we still sell them a ton of arms they use to bomb hospitals and stuff for no real reason but at least it is a start.

AND Russia/Iran not only does the same for Syria but russia aircraft also participate in dropping cluster weapons on civilians. Both are really ugly but 2 sides of that street. At least Russia has somewhat better human rights record, as long as you aren't a jounalist.
Agreed that the russians are wrongly participating in attacks on civilians, although I feel it is mofe justified due to who is on the other side (isis and al nusra). However, there is no doubt a better solution but the US will not work with Putin, despite it being the best option to save Syrian lives.

....here is a question...are the Russians targeting civilians exclusively ?.....or are they targeting hostile targets that are in areas with high civilian concentrations ?.....

Cheers
A mixture, probably. There have been for sure avoidable civilian deaths.
 
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....oh whoops...or....I guess the big question is, was this just another accident, or was this deliberate, a part of an attempt to help their allies, the lung eaters, in Mosul....

A total of 90 Iraqi servicemen were killed and 100 were wounded as a result of a mistake strike by the US Air Force in Mosul, a local news portal reported Saturday. A source in the Iraqi army confirmed the information to Sputnik Arabic.MOSCOW (Sputnik) — According to the Factiniraq news portal, the airstrike also damaged Iraqi military hardware, and the troops had to retreat from the area.

The airstrike, which occurred on Friday, targeted an armored division, destroying eight infantry fighting vehicles and four Humvee military trucks, the army source told Sputnik Arabic. The Iraqi operation to liberate Mosul, which was occupied by the Daesh terrorist group (outlawed in Russia) in June 2014, has been ongoing since October 17. The offensive is led by Kurdish Peshmerga fighters and Iraqi soldiers backed by the US-led anti-terror coalition.Read more: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201612101048391522-us-airstrike-mosul-iraqi-servicemen
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Read more: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201612101048391522-us-airstrike-mosul-iraqi-servicemen/

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....oh whoops...or....I guess the big question is, was this just another accident, or was this deliberate, a part of an attempt to help their allies, the lung eaters, in Mosul....

A total of 90 Iraqi servicemen were killed and 100 were wounded as a result of a mistake strike by the US Air Force in Mosul, a local news portal reported Saturday. A source in the Iraqi army confirmed the information to Sputnik Arabic.MOSCOW (Sputnik) — According to the Factiniraq news portal, the airstrike also damaged Iraqi military hardware, and the troops had to retreat from the area.

The airstrike, which occurred on Friday, targeted an armored division, destroying eight infantry fighting vehicles and four Humvee military trucks, the army source told Sputnik Arabic. The Iraqi operation to liberate Mosul, which was occupied by the Daesh terrorist group (outlawed in Russia) in June 2014, has been ongoing since October 17. The offensive is led by Kurdish Peshmerga fighters and Iraqi soldiers backed by the US-led anti-terror coalition.Read more: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201612101048391522-us-airstrike-mosul-iraqi-servicemen
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Read more: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201612101048391522-us-airstrike-mosul-iraqi-servicemen/

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are you surprised ? they slaughtered scores of their allied troops, from the 1st and 2nd iraqi adventures, to afghanistan, to again in iraq. they also slaughtered scores of the civilians and continue to do so. and the longer it will get unpunished, the more they will kill.

but here's where i'd have to make a common sense observation. are they drunk on violence ? absolutely. but in all honesty i dont think the american military is intentionally doing so. it would be wicked stupid to spend all that money and produce so many flops no one needs.

that busted is incapable to extend this simple common sense to other militaries and continues to repeat the stupid dogmas as a prayer make me question his ability to think critically. in fact, i usually stay away from engaging him b/c i imagined, despite the numerous ignorant posts, as a proud military he may have extended a universal military virtues code (he's so sensitive to) to others. i was probably mistaken. but i see it in glen, in patrick.

perhaps they are just smarter, more what i thinkof a military professional regardless of a country they served should be... dont know :rolleyes:
 
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python said:
blutto said:
....oh whoops...or....I guess the big question is, was this just another accident, or was this deliberate, a part of an attempt to help their allies, the lung eaters, in Mosul....

A total of 90 Iraqi servicemen were killed and 100 were wounded as a result of a mistake strike by the US Air Force in Mosul, a local news portal reported Saturday. A source in the Iraqi army confirmed the information to Sputnik Arabic.MOSCOW (Sputnik) — According to the Factiniraq news portal, the airstrike also damaged Iraqi military hardware, and the troops had to retreat from the area.

The airstrike, which occurred on Friday, targeted an armored division, destroying eight infantry fighting vehicles and four Humvee military trucks, the army source told Sputnik Arabic. The Iraqi operation to liberate Mosul, which was occupied by the Daesh terrorist group (outlawed in Russia) in June 2014, has been ongoing since October 17. The offensive is led by Kurdish Peshmerga fighters and Iraqi soldiers backed by the US-led anti-terror coalition.Read more: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201612101048391522-us-airstrike-mosul-iraqi-servicemen
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Read more: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201612101048391522-us-airstrike-mosul-iraqi-servicemen/

Cheers
are you surprised ? they slaughtered scores of their allied troops, from the 1st and 2nd iraqi adventures, to afghanistan, to again in iraq. they also slaughtered scores of the civilians and continue to do so. and the longer it will get unpunished, the more they will kill.

but here's where i'd have to make a common sense observation. are they drunk on violence ? absolutely. but in all honesty i dont think the american military is intentionally doing so. it would be wicked stupid to spend all that money and produce so many flops no one needs.

that busted is incapable to extend this simple common sense to other militaries and continues to repeat the stupid dogmas as a prayer make me question his ability to think critically. in fact, i usually stay away from engaging him b/c i imagined, despite the numerous ignorant posts, as a proud military he may have extended a universal military virtues code (he's so sensitive to) to others. i was probably mistaken. but i see it in glen, in patrick.

perhaps they are just smarter, more what i thinkof a military professional regardless of a country they served should be... dont know :rolleyes:

I think it's more of a matter of seeing mission, accomplishing mission, with, unfortunately, fog of war thrown in.
'Intel' in Iraq and Syria is poor. The US didn't target friendlies intensionally. ISIS looks almost the same as friendly forces on the ground in terms of hardware. The 'fight' is very fluid, ever changing, again, with poor intel.

'Drunk on violence'? Well, war fighting is violent, sorry, it is but at least in the US military, the where is decided by civilians, the how is modified by civilians..the military carries it out.

BTW-I don't think you have ever read that I think the second Gulf War was a good idea. It was a huge mistake, perpetuated by GBush2 and was the genesis for the Arab spring and for ISIS.

My point again, is that the conflicts in Iraq, Syria, Afganistan, Yemen are a mess, in no small part tied to ISIS/Arab spring and the second Gulf war. Russia is mired in this as is Iran, Syria, SA and the US. I really despise Donnie but if the US gets out of these foreign entanglements, turn inward to protect the USA, well, that's not a bad thing. However, based on bad intel, that's exactly what Dubya did when he invaded Iraq.

regardless of what 'some' civilians say, it was not deliberate, to target friendlies. BUT another stone to throw at the country and people he hates..the USA. BUT conspiracy theorists abound everywhere..even in canada..eh?
 
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Bustedknuckle said:
python said:
blutto said:
....oh whoops...or....I guess the big question is, was this just another accident, or was this deliberate, a part of an attempt to help their allies, the lung eaters, in Mosul....

A total of 90 Iraqi servicemen were killed and 100 were wounded as a result of a mistake strike by the US Air Force in Mosul, a local news portal reported Saturday. A source in the Iraqi army confirmed the information to Sputnik Arabic.MOSCOW (Sputnik) — According to the Factiniraq news portal, the airstrike also damaged Iraqi military hardware, and the troops had to retreat from the area.

The airstrike, which occurred on Friday, targeted an armored division, destroying eight infantry fighting vehicles and four Humvee military trucks, the army source told Sputnik Arabic. The Iraqi operation to liberate Mosul, which was occupied by the Daesh terrorist group (outlawed in Russia) in June 2014, has been ongoing since October 17. The offensive is led by Kurdish Peshmerga fighters and Iraqi soldiers backed by the US-led anti-terror coalition.Read more: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201612101048391522-us-airstrike-mosul-iraqi-servicemen
/

Read more: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201612101048391522-us-airstrike-mosul-iraqi-servicemen/

Cheers
are you surprised ? they slaughtered scores of their allied troops, from the 1st and 2nd iraqi adventures, to afghanistan, to again in iraq. they also slaughtered scores of the civilians and continue to do so. and the longer it will get unpunished, the more they will kill.

but here's where i'd have to make a common sense observation. are they drunk on violence ? absolutely. but in all honesty i dont think the american military is intentionally doing so. it would be wicked stupid to spend all that money and produce so many flops no one needs.

that busted is incapable to extend this simple common sense to other militaries and continues to repeat the stupid dogmas as a prayer make me question his ability to think critically. in fact, i usually stay away from engaging him b/c i imagined, despite the numerous ignorant posts, as a proud military he may have extended a universal military virtues code (he's so sensitive to) to others. i was probably mistaken. but i see it in glen, in patrick.

perhaps they are just smarter, more what i thinkof a military professional regardless of a country they served should be... dont know :rolleyes:

I think it's more of a matter of seeing mission, accomplishing mission, with, unfortunately, fog of war thrown in.
'Intel' in Iraq and Syria is poor. The US didn't target friendlies intensionally. ISIS looks almost the same as friendly forces on the ground in terms of hardware. The 'fight' is very fluid, ever changing, again, with poor intel.

'Drunk on violence'? Well, war fighting is violent, sorry, it is but at least in the US military, the where is decided by civilians, the how is modified by civilians..the military carries it out.

BTW-I don't think you have ever read that I think the second Gulf War was a good idea. It was a huge mistake, perpetuated by GBush2 and was the genesis for the Arab spring and for ISIS.

My point again, is that the conflicts in Iraq, Syria, Afganistan, Yemen are a mess, in no small part tied to ISIS/Arab spring and the second Gulf war. Russia is mired in this as is Iran, Syria, SA and the US. I really despise Donnie but if the US gets out of these foreign entanglements, turn inward to protect the USA, well, that's not a bad thing. However, based on bad intel, that's exactly what Dubya did when he invaded Iraq.

regardless of what 'some' civilians say, it was not deliberate, to target friendlies. BUT another stone to throw at the country and people he hates..the USA.

....so tell why is this fog only present when youse guys fcuk up....or is this fog just a smoke-screen by another name....?.....

....and how is it that civilians are always so truthful in Syria and not so much in Iraq and why oh why does this fog never appear in Syria....man that must be some exceptional climate inversion/reliability inversion, like what do you attribute that to exactly ? ....this wouldn't be anything to do with being a self-appointed city on the hill would it ?....

...btw, you might want to head into the shop and pour yourself a quart, there is the beginnings of a brown line appearing on your forehead...

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/19/syria-ceasefire-is-over-says-countrys-military

eh? cheers

....oh look, white hats and truthful civilians....let me guess ?....this must be Syria....

....and as long as we are throwing stones over a fence....we found some fog in Afghanistan....btw they bombed and shot up that hospital for about an hour...read it was not some errant bomb that went astray, it was concerted effort over time despite numerous pleading for it to stop...fog must have been pretty thick that time eh....

Patients at the field hospital in Kunduz, a city that the Taliban had conquered and held, burned alive in their beds as a US AC-130 gunship made multiple passes overhead in the pre-dawn chaos. The report concluded that MSF provided the US with coordinates of the hospital, which under international humanitarian law is supposed to be a protected facility, before the 3 October strike, but a combination of human and technical errors in Kunduz led to identification of the facility came too late.

The inquiry found that MSF contacted a US military liaison within minutes of the strike. But when the message was relayed to the ground commander in Kunduz, it did not “immediately register” with him, Votel said, as the ground crew believed the AC-130 was striking a different location used by the Taliban

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/29/kunduz-hospital-attack-msf-us-military-charges

....and ....

https://theintercept.com/2016/04/28/searching-for-ground-truth-in-the-kunduz-hospital-bombing/

Gen. Campbell said that the military had not followed its own rules of engagement during the Kunduz airstrike. The U.S. commander who called in the strike did not have eyes on the target; he was several hundred meters away, in the visual range of neither the NDS nor the MSF hospital. Nor was the strike necessary for force protection.

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the islamic state confirmed occupied palmyra from which they were kicked out in march.

this is a huge setback for the fight against the savages and a testimony to the limited reach of the russians and the inefficiency of the syrian army. despite the earlier contradictory reports, i checked the news with sana (the official syrian gov), with al jazeera and with the trt (turkish tv). all report that the govt forces had withdrawn.

what makes this event significant is that while isil is pushed around mosul, they had somehow avoided the surveillance (both american and russian) and were able to somehow suddenly attack the desert city. it is easy to see on the map that nothing stands btwn mosul and palmyra to prevent the islamic state from shuttling its forces btwn the 2 cities. clearly, someone was interested (and perhaps blind) to having the isil forces drawn from iraq to syria...

as usual, it may backfire by biting the cynics in their own ardz via the terror attacks on the terms the cynics will think they control but fail to... sort of like 9-11 reduced ?
 
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So glad that Assad will maintain power in Syria. :rolleyes:
Syrian government forces have reportedly entered civilian homes and killed people inside “on the spot” in eastern Aleppo, the U.N. Human Rights Office said today. At least 82 civilians, including 11 women and 13 children, were reportedly killed in four different eastern Aleppo neighborhoods, U.N. spokesman Rupert Colville told reporters in Geneva.
The Syrian government has taken over the entire city of Aleppo except for a small and shrinking enclave in the eastern part of the city. Gaining control of the remaining neighborhoods would be a strategic victory for President Bashar al-Assad, returning all urban centers in the country to his control.
I'm sure that Assad and his apologists will say that those civilians were ISIS.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/syrian-government-reportedly-kills-dozens-civilians-aleppo-spot/story?id=44160179
 
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..looks like the trump choice for a state sec may indeed ease up the tension btwn the 2 nuclear super militaries..

not sure where the guy stands on other international issues, but i personally would not argue with the notion. will the mp's approve him remains to be seen.
 
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djpbaltimore said:
So glad that Assad will maintain power in Syria. :rolleyes:
Syrian government forces have reportedly entered civilian homes and killed people inside “on the spot” in eastern Aleppo, the U.N. Human Rights Office said today. At least 82 civilians, including 11 women and 13 children, were reportedly killed in four different eastern Aleppo neighborhoods, U.N. spokesman Rupert Colville told reporters in Geneva.
The Syrian government has taken over the entire city of Aleppo except for a small and shrinking enclave in the eastern part of the city. Gaining control of the remaining neighborhoods would be a strategic victory for President Bashar al-Assad, returning all urban centers in the country to his control.
I'm sure that Assad and his apologists will say that those civilians were ISIS.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/syrian-government-reportedly-kills-dozens-civilians-aleppo-spot/story?id=44160179

....yeah the main source for this is a guy in his pajamas reporting direct from Coventry England....that being said it is a nice lead-in back to the big story of the century, the fake news imbroglio....

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djpbaltimore said:
So glad that Assad will maintain power in Syria. :rolleyes:
Syrian government forces have reportedly entered civilian homes and killed people inside “on the spot” in eastern Aleppo, the U.N. Human Rights Office said today. At least 82 civilians, including 11 women and 13 children, were reportedly killed in four different eastern Aleppo neighborhoods, U.N. spokesman Rupert Colville told reporters in Geneva.
The Syrian government has taken over the entire city of Aleppo except for a small and shrinking enclave in the eastern part of the city. Gaining control of the remaining neighborhoods would be a strategic victory for President Bashar al-Assad, returning all urban centers in the country to his control.
I'm sure that Assad and his apologists will say that those civilians were ISIS.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/syrian-government-reportedly-kills-dozens-civilians-aleppo-spot/story?id=44160179
But why do we have to be concerned with trying to change the government of Syria? You don't say in your post that we should but it reads that you are hinting the direction of regime change supported by the USA. The cost of which I don't think merikah is ready to pay.

The red line was drawn in the sand and when it was crossed nothing was done except to finance and provide weapons to people who does not like the USA. Nothing has changed.

Massive killings or assassinations were going on before. Would you like for the incoming US president to do something about this?
 
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How does the sand look from viewing at close range? Or is your head buried in a different orifice?

....oh did that weave a widdle mark...oh boohoo....too bad so sad....

Cheers

....btw try to maintain some critical consistency across complex multi-tiered structural fabulations....who knows, maybe people would be more apt to take you more much seriously....
 
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djpbaltimore said:
The fact that you feel the need to constantly troll my posts speaks to the seriousness with which you take them.

....nah nah nah, you are the comic relief backdrop against which I do my serious work....

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