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CentralCaliBike said:
People tend to be so focused on the US that they tend to forget the US is not alone in responding to Iraq - both Britain and Australia were involved at the outset and Italy has sent limited troops to Iraq in 2003 (and still has forces in the country).

Some of the most vocal opposition came from France who has a long standing colonial relationship with Iraq, that became an economic partnership in the 1970s (http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31552) The partnership gained France much needed oil in exchange for nuclear power plant, military supplies, and chemical weapons. In fact France sold over 20 billion dollars worth of weapons to Iraq in the next 15 years.

There is a reason that Europe has had the opportunity to grow into the EU. After WWI, the European victors did nothing to bring Germany back into the mainstream of political discussion, in fact they did every effort to economically destroy the remaining pieces of the Austria-Hungary Empire. It was the US who insured the economic recovery of Western Europe following WWII. What most do not acknowledge is that the US military costs include those for the rebuilding (48 billion dollars from 2006 to 2008 alone http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/iraq/complete/la-oe-bilmes15-2008aug15,0,110536.story).

I am not going to state that the US can do no wrong, but I do believe that many out there are not willing to recognize that others (Europe included) have their own responsibility for the Iraq wars.

I'm frankly at a loss for words. Australia? Britain? As if the political and moral responsibility for the debacle in Iraq isn't exclusivly wrapped up in the neocon ideology of "preventative war" of the Bush administration. To look for any other alternatrive as an alibi for one's own conscience, is either the fruit of a cynical and perverse patriotism, or sheer blind patriotic idiocy. All I can say is that your way of seeing things is simply surreal.
 
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rhubroma said:
I'm frankly at a loss for words. Australia? Britain? As if the political and moral responsibility for the debacle in Iraq isn't exclusivly wrapped up in the neocon ideology of "preventative war" of the Bush administration. To look for any other alternatrive as an alibi for one's own conscience, is either the fruit of a cynical and perverse patriotism, or sheer blind patriotic idiocy. All I can say is that your way of seeing things is simply surreal.

+1Just because they were bullied into sending a few troops doesn't make the whole stupid mess in any way their responsiblity.
 
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rhubroma said:
I'm frankly at a loss for words. Australia? Britain? As if the political and moral responsibility for the debacle in Iraq isn't exclusivly wrapped up in the neocon ideology of "preventative war" of the Bush administration. To look for any other alternatrive as an alibi for one's own conscience, is either the fruit of a cynical and perverse patriotism, or sheer blind patriotic idiocy. All I can say is that your way of seeing things is simply surreal.

I also agree, the responsibility belongs at the feet of the Bush administration not the allies.
 
CentralCaliBike said:
You can have the best class outlines available, but it takes students who are interested to make a real difference. I am sure that you see some students from Italy and the US who are interested and demonstrate the knowledge level that suggests they understand what you are teaching. I am equally sure that there are students in both countries who find history to be boring and of no interest at all - those students are not likely to impress you at all no matter what country they come from.

I still believe that it is the culture of learning - which starts in the home - which determines the quality of the student, not the level of teaching standards.

I've always thought that curiosity is the first sign of intelligence (and absolutely necessary to critical thought). Without it no "culture of learning," as you say, exists.

In any case everyone is free to assume the level interest one feels they have within them, though not everyone is entitled to excellence.
 
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Memory, college, swimming lessons, in the pool more than 90% of people wearing square pants, ruthless minority of people wearing San Jiaoku. In addition to bathing in hot springs in these 10 years, has never been a swimming pool, had not been to the beach swimming. More recently, want to go to the seaside resort, have to buy a piece swimming trunks, wardrobe, only one 10 years ago, San Jiao swimming trunks, and I do not know where to go to the four corners of pants. But how many are looking at tourism usual channels, probably know that the United States splashing beach boys move off almost wore swimming trunks anizzia superior product, even playing in the water park, too, if it is wearing a piece San Jiaoku will absurd! Went to study a little swimming pants trend now. A little emotion.

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By using the location, swimming pools swimwear swimming trunks and beach pants, according to material is divided into tight and loose, in principle, tight-fitting clothing in the pool, relaxed, that is worn at the beach, but at the beach do not wear tight-fitting? Surf wear pants in the pool can do? Friends, you have paid attention to dabble do when they wear?

◎ If, as the venue of view, the sub-pool, the beach, playing in the water park.
■ Swimming pool with water sanitation and hardware maintenance considerations, so have the rules set out clothes, tight-fitting style is the standard dress. I am more unacceptable is that, why should wearing a swimming cap, I know that is to prevent the hair, but could it be the water treatment system can not be overcome even this do? There is a short beach shorts can be worn into a swimming pool? Lifeguards will voice their opinions I would like to it, because it feels wrong, afraid of dirty water, not the same as anyone else, but the surf wear pants into the swimming pool really is too exceeded.
■ beach beach is a ruthless multi-sand, and then will engage in other activities such as walking, jogging, playing ... that is not entirely in the water to swim, so shorts are designed to move generally reasonable, but I do not know long ago become worn at the beach tights would be laughing, and then was originally designed for surfers pants turned into a unique beach wear, like me primarily in swimming at the beach, says that people felt that wearing pants is not a good choice to surf.
■ playing in the water park this place seem to range from between the pool and beach, with the present trend, probably wearing a pant or surfing pants are mostly bar! However, some facilities are rules set can not wear loose pants surfing, and should be afraid to hook into the bar. In the tourism channel, I see playing in the water park where little boys are also wearing pants surfing.
◎ If the photo feature to see it, sub-tight and loose
■ Tight-style demands of non-bound, low water resistance, suitable for swimming, wear in the pool completely reasonable, but the wear on the beach, leaving aside the appearance aside, it may be unable to cope with the sand and the wear bar. Based on this point, I felt not appropriate to wear swimming trunks to the beach by. However, if it is a pure swimming, I feel that wearing a tight-fitting swimming trunks to the beach is also nothing wrong, nothing funny, but if it is to wear tight-fitting swimming trunks in the playing pieces of beach volleyball, it is more surprising.
■ beach pants are debris-resistant, wear, suitable for beach activities, which are designed to prevent moisture to remain in the clothes from the water when the water is severe drying, the sand will not stay in the pants, even if the there are pockets, but also designed to be a leaking drain hole sand.
 
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rhubroma said:
I've always thought that curiosity is the first sign of intelligence (and absolutely necessary to critical thought). Without it no "culture of learning," as you say, exists.

In any case everyone is free to assume the level interest one feels they have within them, though not everyone is entitled to excellence.

Reasonable assumptions - as an aside, I believe that there are many subcultures within families, religious and social groups that do value education, and their children have a better advantage in life than those with parents who are wealthy but lack that same "culture of learning".

I figure a parent has done well to have children who are happy, can empathize with the circumstances of those they come into contact with, and value an education.

Anyway, Merry Christmas and/or a Happy New Year to all of those out there who are a part of this thread :)
 
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titan_90 said:
I also agree, the responsibility belongs at the feet of the Bush administration not the allies.

As an American that didn't vote for Bush or this particular policy; I agree. As a human being that voted for Obama with the expectation that he would clean up our American mess with my tax dollars; I'd hope anyone that would be a beneficiary either on a moral basis, financially or evangellically-help us out because that neighborhood is dangerous. We've lost enough family and friends on both sides.
 
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Of course, you and I were probably of the many who voted the Democrats into Congress in 2006 as they ran on a total "Get out of Iraq now!" policy. Remember? Remember what they actually did once in office? They pretty much gave Bush, Cheney and the Pentagon every last thing they wanted regarding the war(s). What was the other thing they ran on? Getting things cleaned up in Congress. You know how much attention that got.

I didn't like Bush much at all either. But this sword cuts in both directions, and the old adage of "absolute power corrupts absolutely" proved itself once again.

There's also no real indication by anyone with an open view that Obama has any concrete plans on how to get us the hell out of Iraq or Afghanistan either.

The real problem is dependence on foreign oil, and meddling in their world for too long, going back a half-century. Until we get out of there and leave them alone, we're stuck.

Cash05458 said:
Yeah, when I lived in Belgium and would return to the U.S. folks would ask me if they had indoor toilets and actual plumbing there!
Don't laugh, but when I was a boy (late 1960's), my grandmother went back east on a trip and found people who thought most of us on the west coast were living without electricity or plumbing or paved roads. Not all of them, of course, but enough to make you scratch your head.
 
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Don't laugh, but when I was a boy (late 1960's), my grandmother went back east on a trip and found people who thought most of us on the west coast were living without electricity or plumbing or paved roads. Not all of them, of course, but enough to make you scratch your head.

I'm not laughing, either. Back in the '70's I grew up in a place on the Eastern side of Lake Washington. It now resembles the OC on steriods, which is sad. Kids I met from Seattle thought we were trappers and loggers...so much for coastal insulation from learning.
 
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CentralCaliBike said:
Since a number of the current stories on Drudge are all about weather I thought I would mention that now may be a time to wish we could effect the weather causing some global warming: http://www.drudgereport.com/

Oh absolutely, considering our cyclocross race in Lake View Terrace (just north of LA, CA) on January 3 took place in frigid 85 degree weather.
 
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CentralCaliBike said:
Since a number of the current stories on Drudge are all about weather I thought I would mention that now may be a time to wish we could effect the weather causing some global warming: http://www.drudgereport.com/

Rumor has it that we already have. Are you asking for more?

P.S. Apparently studying climate change is quite a high-profile field of research, surprised you haven't heard of it.
 
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Less snow and hotter summers (@75 years previous) is a political issue? Don't know if it's global warming but have pictures of CA,AZ,NV, Germany, France and Scotland that show way,way more snow during winter. Pictures on Lake Erie of ice fishing in the 40's,doesn't happen regularly like it used to. No snow is not political,ignoring the change may be
 
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ihavenolimbs said:
Rumor has it that we already have. Are you asking for more?

P.S. Apparently studying climate change is quite a high-profile field of research, surprised you haven't heard of it.

Read back a few pages
 
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fatandfast said:
Less snow and hotter summers (@75 years previous) is a political issue? Don't know if it's global warming but have pictures of CA,AZ,NV, Germany, France and Scotland that show way,way more snow during winter. Pictures on Lake Erie of ice fishing in the 40's,doesn't happen regularly like it used to. No snow is not political,ignoring the change may be

The hacked emails made public something that was readily apparently a number of years ago - global warming is political (I know some people like to call it "climate change" but that is because they have not been able to show the warming that was expected from their calculations).
 
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Hugh Januss said:
Oh absolutely, considering our cyclocross race in Lake View Terrace (just north of LA, CA) on January 3 took place in frigid 85 degree weather.

January 3, 1953

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Minimum Temperature

45.0 °F

Mean Temperature

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Maximum Temperature

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That was the actual for Lake View Terrace: http://www.almanac.com/weather/history/CA/Lake%20View%20Terrace/1953-01-03


Yesterday was actually:
Temperature: 73.2 °F 45.9 °F 61.4 °F
http://www.wunderground.com/history...tml?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA

Not exactly the 85 degrees you were mentioning but not the 50 degrees I have been feeling a hundred and twenty to the north.
 
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CentralCaliBike said:
The hacked emails made public something that was readily apparently a number of years ago - global warming is political (I know some people like to call it "climate change" but that is because they have not been able to show the warming that was expected from their calculations).

I should conclude that my dad and gramps are both high. They fished on ice every year and that ice is no longer consistently forms. The photos they have are doctored to show less snow and ice from their childhoods than today. Ski slopes I used to enjoy in Germany only have ice every other year,is this my imagination? I have no calculations only 3 to 100 sampling of areas that previously had snow fall
 
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A guy like Centralcali will have absolutely nothing to say if he is wrong 50 years from now. That is really the question....what if you are wrong? Did you do all you could to give your ancestors a fair shake in this world?

Conservation, efficient and alternative energy development have so many benefits aside from avoiding possible climate calamity. The fact of the matter is denial-ism is in keeping with the republican party line to produce a negative political atmosphere. The position of denial has nothing to do with sound policy for the nation.
 
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CentralCaliBike said:
The hacked emails made public something that was readily apparently a number of years ago - global warming is political (I know some people like to call it "climate change" but that is because they have not been able to show the warming that was expected from their calculations).

I would suggest that you look more throughly into the email issue. Of course the issue has been politicize but the emails taken out of context are hardly evidence of this. As "The Economist" recently wrote

None of this is evidence of fraud. Looked at broadly, the e-mails seem to show a pretty workaday picture of scientists, with frustrations and sloppinesses, disagreements, opponents badmouthed, and cultural differences bridged

The idea of anthropogenic climate change rests on a great deal more than just tree-ring records, useful as they are for providing context to the current warming.

A spate of recent claims of global cooling, for example, rely on comparing 1998, the second-hottest year in the modern record (going to 1880), with 2008, which was relatively cooler. Yet, according to NASA, 2008 was the ninth-hottest year on record. 2009 is shaping up to be the sixth-hottest. All of the ten hottest years recorded have come since 1997. And retreating Arctic sea ice provides even more visible data to support conclusions of warming.
 
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Please, lets keep politics out of here. It NY Escort will bring out people that make Arbiter/BPC/Wonderlance look NY Escorts normal.
That is a good thought. There is a reason why other sites that allow discussion of politics restrict it to a politics forum.

That said, my opinion of Obama has been NY Asian Escorts going steadily down as he continues to fold on issue after issue. After Bush and his posse destroyed the world economy, Obama has NY Asian Escort his hands tied on a lot of things; but he still seems way too anxious to backtrack on campaign promises.
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scribe said:
A guy like Centralcali will have absolutely nothing to say if he is wrong 50 years from now. That is really the question....what if you are wrong? Did you do all you could to give your ancestors a fair shake in this world?

Conservation, efficient and alternative energy development have so many benefits aside from avoiding possible climate calamity. The fact of the matter is denial-ism is in keeping with the republican party line to produce a negative political atmosphere. The position of denial has nothing to do with sound policy for the nation.

I have no problem with alternative energy development, obviously we have a finite source of energy in coal, oil, and nature gas. I also enjoy clean air - but the man=made global warming claims are just not reasonable. Look at the amount of material produced by the auto industry and compare it to the amount of pollution produced by a decent size volcanic eruption and you will see that man just cannot compete with the natural environment for changing climates.
 
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Race Radio said:
I would suggest that you look more throughly into the email issue. Of course the issue has been politicize but the emails taken out of context are hardly evidence of this. As "The Economist" recently wrote



The idea of anthropogenic climate change rests on a great deal more than just tree-ring records, useful as they are for providing context to the current warming.

A spate of recent claims of global cooling, for example, rely on comparing 1998, the second-hottest year in the modern record (going to 1880), with 2008, which was relatively cooler. Yet, according to NASA, 2008 was the ninth-hottest year on record. 2009 is shaping up to be the sixth-hottest. All of the ten hottest years recorded have come since 1997. And retreating Arctic sea ice provides even more visible data to support conclusions of warming.

I have actually read a large number of the emails - some were posted many pages ago and they are not all taken out of context (really there is only one that could be argued was misstated in context and that is open to debate).

As far as the Arctic Ice cap - it actually increased at the fastest rate for the past 30 years in 2007 and 2008: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/02/03/arctic-sea-ice-increases-at-record-rate/
 
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CentralCaliBike said:
I have no problem with alternative energy development, obviously we have a finite source of energy in coal, oil, and nature gas. I also enjoy clean air - but the man=made global warming claims are just not reasonable. Look at the amount of material produced by the auto industry and compare it to the amount of pollution produced by a decent size volcanic eruption and you will see that man just cannot compete with the natural environment for changing climates.

I see all denial. The topic of my post was to ditch the denial and embrace the positive impact of cleaner and leaner technology.
 
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