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adhuez, I am not going to write a treatise for you, there's plenty for you to read already, but, briefly and simply, I believe this: "That government is best which governs least."

Besides, critics are doing a wonderful job of imagining my leanings and then attacking the boogeyman/stalking horse without using any other basis. It gives a great insight into what remains of your addled minds.

From the Mouthpiece of the Man, holding decent working families down for over a century:
President Obama and Democrats have settled on demonizing Wall Street as a campaign theme for November's elections. If history is any guide, Mr. Obama and New York Senator Chuck Schumer will now persuade Wall Street to underwrite this campaign. Ah, the politics of hope and change. How refreshing.

Continuing from paragraph 2 - Clear to those who spew their venom my way, as is the fashion lately, If anyone criticizes Obama, then they are a virulent racist. And I am sure the things they say about Clarence Thomas, Michael Steele, Ward Connerly, Thomas Sowell, J C Watts and many many other people of color are without any racial content, even when the criticism incorporates race as a basis for their criticism. I wish I had a dime for every time a thoughtful, kind and tolerant and always pro-diversity progressive referred to conservatives of color as --- well I'll let you imagine that.

Progressives, Liberals, Dems, whatever label you want today are a funny lot. The ultimate frauds. Open minded, kind, tolerant, inclusive. So long as no one disagrees. And as soon as that happens, the rules change, and we get a beautiful picture of who you really are. It's hilarious to me.

But please don't suspend the assaults, it cracks me up. It's like stepping on an ant hill and watching them all come out frenetically running around in circles and then gradually retreating back into their little mound of dirt. (Dear PETA: No ants were harmed in the writing of this post.)

I find this interesting (another mouthpiece of the bourgeosie insurgency), and I think politically thinking people of left and right would benefit from reading it. I won't tell anyone if your lips move when you read it.

Never ceases to amaze me how Uniballer fans and dittoheads are completely oblivious of the irony of their posts. Open mindedness and/or kindness? Obviously you are not familiar with my work.

As for racism, if it walks like a duck...I can hear your quacking from here...

Oh, and as to worship, this is one of my favorites of all time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxdt_f0hwUg (that part where she speaks in tongue is just AWESOME)

Just wait to see what they do with the moose knuckle from Alaska
 

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Never ceases to amaze me how Uniballer fans and dittoheads are completely oblivious of the irony of their posts. Open mindedness and/or kindness? Obviously you are not familiar with my work.

As for racism, if it walks like a duck...I can hear your quacking from here...

Oh, and as to worship, this is one of my favorites of all time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxdt_f0hwUg (that part where she speaks in tongue is just AWESOME)

Just wait to see what they do with the moose knuckle from Alaska

waaaahhhh wahhhhh

Looks like tff has crawled out from his latest AA meeting. Yawn. Even your insults are boring.
 
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You have to love the tea baggers:

- staunch conservatives in love with the status quo, or better, who would prefer a ride in the DeLorean back to better times, when the greatness of the nation was undisputed
- scrambling for their guns and clinging to one true religion
- self-proclaimed saviors of the nation, a true revolutionary guard
- screaming murder and terrorism when American government policies don't coincide with their beliefs
- alluding to the US president as a mindless murderer, a terrorist of the worst kind who kills babies, women, elderly and other innocent human beings
- attending staged propaganda rallies
- morbidly against any limitations to national sovereignty, who see foreign intervention conspiracies around the corner and refuse to recognize institutions like the UN.
- with a knack for Middle Eastern imperialism/domination, and who would love to launch an attack on Iran
- supporting self-glorifying and aggrandizing clowns as leaders
- pro-torture when national security demands it

Here's a picture:

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adhuez, I am not going to write a treatise for you, there's plenty for you to read already, but, briefly and simply, I believe this: "That government is best which governs least."

so, for a quick sampling.......

-You would agree with the idea that government shouldn't concern itself with a person's sexuality, as it pertains to issues such as marriage and military.
-You believe in a dramatically reduced military.
-Reduced need for public works services and maintenance, such as roads.
-No need for public safety measures that are too expensive to maintain.
-You STILL believe in a system free of controls and caps via regulation in sectors such as finance.
 
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waaaahhhh wahhhhh

Looks like tff has crawled out from his latest AA meeting. Yawn. Even your insults are boring.

And yours are just plain stupid.
 
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so, for a quick sampling.......

-You would agree with the idea that government shouldn't concern itself with a person's sexuality, as it pertains to issues such as marriage and military.
-You believe in a dramatically reduced military.
-Reduced need for public works services and maintenance, such as roads.
-No need for public safety measures that are too expensive to maintain.
-You STILL believe in a system free of controls and caps via regulation in sectors such as finance.

Its okay, he just has a theory of how government should act in terms of the economy. Just ask him to produce one single industrialized nation that got through the Great Depression using market forces instead of government spending. Just one. Oh wait, he can't. Just ask him to produce one major industrialized nation that has a pure capitalist system. Oh wait, he can't. There aren't any. (I guess he could say Somolia if he wanted) See, free market disciples like him believe in something that has clear examples of its use, only the last time it was used was in the 19th century, and every major industrialized nation on the planet moved away from it because it is a stupid theory based on an idealistic belief that people will economically act rationally and without extreme corruption if given the "freedom" to do so. Funny, in the 100+ years we have incorporated socialist principles into our economy, we also created the greatest amount of wealth for the greatest number of people in the history of mankind. People like him preach their ivory tower economics thinking that they will be at the top in their fantasy land, never understanding the extreme concentration of wealth and poverty present in such a system. He would be crying for his mama in the system he desires because from what I see, "Captian of industry" will never be one of his titles.
 

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so, for a quick sampling.......

-You would agree with the idea that government shouldn't concern itself with a person's sexuality, as it pertains to issues such as marriage and military.
-You believe in a dramatically reduced military.
-Reduced need for public works services and maintenance, such as roads.
-No need for public safety measures that are too expensive to maintain.
-You STILL believe in a system free of controls and caps via regulation in sectors such as finance.

you and tff do wonderful jobs proving my point about setting up a stalking horse and then attacking it.

stop making it so easy!
 
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LOL

Somalia is probably the most pure form of politics for ultra-conservatives.

Hey, it is the only example of their theory in play at this point. Gotta go with what ya got.

The funny part is he only snipes because he cannot actually engage in a discussion of his actual beliefs because they are too easy to tear to pieces. Based on that, I am going to guess he is the Cheney/Chicken hawk type of tea bagger.
 
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you and tff do wonderful jobs proving my point about setting up a stalking horse and then attacking it.

stop making it so easy!

If it is so easy, just provide a real world example of your economic system at work (other than Somolia, because lets face it, you want to avoid that one at all costs). Go ahead, show us...

Its funny, you silly dittoheads talking about "ivory towers" and "elitism" when you are promoting the most theoretical of economic philosophies considering the lack of real world examples.

Irony, get a sense of it.
 

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If it is so easy, just provide a real world example of your economic system at work (other than Somolia, because lets face it, you want to avoid that one at all costs). Go ahead, show us...

Its funny, you silly dittoheads talking about "ivory towers" and "elitism" when you are promoting the most theoretical of economic philosophies considering the lack of real world examples.

Irony, get a sense of it.

Provide your own. Hint: Cuba.
 
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Hey, it is the only example of their theory in play at this point. Gotta go with what ya got.

The funny part is he only snipes because he cannot actually engage in a discussion of his actual beliefs because they are too easy to tear to pieces. Based on that, I am going to guess he is the Cheney/Chicken hawk type of tea bagger.

Limbaugh has created quite a legion of brainwashed devotees. It is all the same tired talking points that have been put to the test through the years (contract with America, Bush/Cheney, Palin) and proved to be a failure in political philosophy.
 
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Perhaps Brown's election will be a blessing in disguise. So, leaders are considering making limited changes that can be passed using a budget process called reconciliation, which only requires 51 votes in the Senate.

Good thing is:

The changes being considered track closely with the agreements House and Senate leaders made in White House meetings last week, according to a source. They include the deal with labor unions to ease the tax on high-end insurance plans, additional Medicare cuts and taxes, the elimination of a special Medicaid funding deal for Nebraska and a move to help cover the gap in seniors' prescription drug coverage. Pelosi is also working to change the Senate provision that sets up state insurance exchanges. The House prefers a single, national exchange

Now the 60th senator's vote has devalued, they can back-paddle on their deal with Nebraska.
 
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Provide your own. Hint: Cuba.

You are a communist? Because I am not sure if you know this, but Cuba is not a market economy...that answer makes me wonder if you even comprehend the topic at hand.
 
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Provide your own. Hint: Cuba.

No, mine is the US considering I believe in a mixed economy. You however fail on two fronts, you don't come up with an answer of your own (because there isn't one) and you prove you have no concept of complex economic thought. Dang, one more strike...

Just quit man, you are working with a pea shooter brain, and this just isn't fair.
 
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Limbaugh has created quite a legion of brainwashed devotees. It is all the same tired talking points that have been put to the test through the years (contract with America, Bush/Cheney, Palin) and proved to be a failure in political philosophy.

Yea, hearing Limbaugh crow about a RINO being elected in Mass was just too funny. He has not sense of shame or irony. Unfortunately, he passes that trait on to his children, otherwise known as listeners. (the terms are interchangeable in this instance)
 
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One thing is pretty certain here, Beck is even dumber than ravens.


The tearful Patriot knows the value of Rush Limbaugh's franchise and is actually a smart actor. It's no shock that Rush, Howard Stern and Joey Buttafucco share the same agent. Beck is selling a product and if he actually believes in his version of the "cause" he won't feel quite so dirty taking all that money. As for Raven's politics; my son was extremely conservative until his in laws divulged how they got access to Bush's inner circle-lots of money. They now embrace the politics of the bailout because they make their money off of it, too. Funny how business just shifts gears and a new group of zealots beat the drums.
 
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