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[Carboncrank]

From the tax plan that's not just proposed but is actually in force today and set to expire at the end of this year.

We'll see what the numbers look like when the budget gets ratified if that's ok with you.

No, you got the numbers from an article that has already been removed because it was wrong.

I guarantee you nobody under 250,000 per is going to see a tax increase. If i'm not mistaken there hasn't been an increase in that bracket since before Bill Clinton was president. It would make no sense to do so now.

Republicans try to buy elections over and over again with tax cuts and then leave the financial mess around for Democrats to clean up.

It happened again with Bush.

You complain about the deficit but are only happy if doing something about it cuts someones food stamps or social security or medicaide.

 

[buckwheat]

No, you got the numbers from an article that has already been removed because it was wrong.

I guarantee you nobody under 250,000 per is going to see a tax increase. If i'm not mistaken there hasn't been an increase in that bracket since before Bill Clinton was president. It would make no sense to do so now.

Republicans try to buy elections over and over again with tax cuts and then leave the financial mess around for Democrats to clean up.

It happened again with Bush.

You complain about the deficit but are only happy if doing something about it cuts someones food stamps or social security or medicaide.

I'm on your side on this one.

 

[Anonymous]

Ok, C C.

Thanks for playing the game. We have some nice parting gifts for you.

 

[Carboncrank]

If you make greater than $250k or 200k depending on your status, you better start working 168 hours per week, because you are gonna have to bust hump to make up the deficits for the next 10 years.

Ain't class warfare grand? Betcha we end up with a lot less people making less than 200-250k/year. Funny thing about earners, they know how to game the system like any rational person would, but it just makes libs hate them all the more.

We will have to nationalize the means of production. That oughtta teach 'em!

The Bush administration gave away the treasury of the United States to people who already had money, allowed then to run that money in an unregulated stock market that turned it into a ponzi scheme and then ran for the door leaving his successor holding the bag.

Moving someone making 300,000 a year from 25 to 28% is not a back door middle class tax increase.

 

[ihavenolimbs]

The Bush administration gave away the treasury of the United States to people who already had money, allowed then to run that money in an unregulated stock market that turned it into a ponzi scheme and then ran for the door leaving his successor holding the bag.

Moving someone making 300,000 a year from 25 to 28% is not a back door middle class tax increase.

Good posts Carbon Crank. Ravens is just trolling, nobody could be that stupid.

 

[Hugh Januss]

I'm on your side on this one.

Yeah, me too, but Scott and ravens are certainly the loudest on this thread. They may not have all the answers but they make the most noise. I'd actually like it if CC takes 'em on for awhile, I'm tired.

 

[usedtobefast]

No, you got the numbers from an article that has already been removed because it was wrong.

I guarantee you nobody under 250,000 per is going to see a tax increase. If i'm not mistaken there hasn't been an increase in that bracket since before Bill Clinton was president. It would make no sense to do so now.

Republicans try to buy elections over and over again with tax cuts and then leave the financial mess around for Democrats to clean up.

It happened again with Bush.

You complain about the deficit but are only happy if doing something about it cuts someones food stamps or social security or medicaide.

i have your back brother. and the dems do have there issues, but fer cryin'
out loud.

 

[Carboncrank]

Yeah, me too, but Scott and ravens are certainly the loudest on this thread. They may not have all the answers but they make the most noise. I'd actually like it if CC takes 'em on for awhile, I'm tired.

Gee, I don't know. I'm not used to positive feeback. I feel faint.

 

[buckwheat]

Gee, I don't know. I'm not used to positive feeback. I feel faint.

For some strange reason LA defense usually goes along with GWB support. Don't know why.

 

[Hugh Januss]

For some strange reason LA defense usually goes along with GWB support. Don't know why.

It's weird, it is not nearly that simple, for every liberal fanboy Scribe or ChrisE there is a conservative hater ravens or Socal Scott. For every liberal hater TFF there is a conservative fanboy CentralCalibike, greed and selfishness seems to know no bounds.
Edit: Still doesn't mean I'll like you when you spout some of the stuff you do on the Lance threads Carbon Cranky.

 

[ravens]

It's weird, it is not nearly that simple, for every liberal fanboy Scribe or ChrisE there is a conservative hater ravens or Socal Scott. For every liberal hater TFF there is a conservative fanboy CentralCalibike, greed and selfishness seems to know no bounds.
Edit: Still doesn't mean I'll like you when you spout some of the stuff you do on the Lance threads Carbon Cranky.

It is simple, there is no correlation between one's affinity for Lance and their political views.

freakin' moonbats.....

 

[ravens]

not that it matters, but here is some deficit reality

Most of this crowd is completely unwilling to deal with reality, so it's as good as place as any for this:

http://thehill.com/opinion/columnis...ese-are-the-true-deficits-bush-800b-obama-14t

These are the true deficits: Bush $800B, Obama $1.4T
By **** Morris - 02/02/10 06:37 PM ET
President Barack Obama is being disingenuous when he says that the budget deficit he faced “when I walked in the door” of the White House was $1.3 trillion. He went on to say that he only increased it to $1.4 trillion in 2009 and was raising it to $1.6 trillion in 2010.

Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.) might have said, “You lie,” but we’ll settle for “You distort.”

 

[Anonymous]

It's weird, it is not nearly that simple, for every liberal fanboy Scribe or ChrisE there is a conservative hater ravens or Socal Scott. For every liberal hater TFF there is a conservative fanboy CentralCalibike, greed and selfishness seems to know no bounds.
Edit: Still doesn't mean I'll like you when you spout some of the stuff you do on the Lance threads Carbon Cranky.

Geez, good thing I'm not thin-skinned. But I have a correction. I love most conservatives

 

[Anonymous]

Most of this crowd is completely unwilling to deal with reality, so it's as good as place as any for this:

http://thehill.com/opinion/columnis...ese-are-the-true-deficits-bush-800b-obama-14t

These are the true deficits: Bush $800B, Obama $1.4T
By **** Morris - 02/02/10 06:37 PM ET
President Barack Obama is being disingenuous when he says that the budget deficit he faced “when I walked in the door” of the White House was $1.3 trillion. He went on to say that he only increased it to $1.4 trillion in 2009 and was raising it to $1.6 trillion in 2010.

Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.) might have said, “You lie,” but we’ll settle for “You distort.”

No one on the left cares about this. In fact, if anything, the libs are disappointed there is not even more spending.

 

[Anonymous]

Fortunately for this guy the USA still has a cutting-edge healthcare system.

http://www.vancouversun.com/health/premier+heart+surgery+sparks+debate/2516321/story.html

 

[fatandfast]

Fortunately for this guy the USA still has a cutting-edge healthcare system.

http://www.vancouversun.com/health/premier+heart+surgery+sparks+debate/2516321/story.html

Sorry I can't find the link. Published recently was a story about health care within NYC that shows that blacks and whites within the same city die at strange and disturbingly different rates because of the hospitals they choose for care. Cancer specialty hospitals in NY are used by the world's elite when they need their life saved and cost is not an issue. It was amazing to think that a little longer bus,train or cab ride could be the difference between life or death.

 

[Anonymous]

This is getting too easy.

"When times are tough, you tighten your belts," Obama said, according to a White House transcript of his appearance Tuesday at a high school in North Nashua, N.H.

"You don't go buying a boat when you can barely pay your mortgage," Obama said. "You don't blow a bunch of cash on Vegas when you're trying to save for college. You prioritize. You make tough choices."

As usual, what the Prez says and what he does is very different. Tough choices would include, ummm, I dunno.... CUTTING spending?

Meanwhile Mayor Goodwin was less than impressed.

Las Vegas Mayor Oscar Goodman said during a hastily called news conference that Obama is no friend to Las Vegas and would not be welcomed here if he visits.

"I'll do everything I can to give him the boot," Goodman said. "This president is a real slow learner."

Goodman and others are worried that Obama's words will discourage visitors from coming to Las Vegas and depress the industry further.

"Enough is enough!" Democratic Congresswoman Shelley Berkley said in a statement. "President Obama needs to stop picking on Las Vegas and he needs to let Americans decide for themselves how and where to spend their hard-earned vacation dollars."

Is it me or is the press starting to turn on the President?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obama_las_vegas

 

[Hugh Januss]

Geez, good thing I'm not thin-skinned. But I have a correction. I love most conservatives

You know what I meant, Lance hater.

 

[ravens]

This is getting too easy.

"When times are tough, you tighten your belts," Obama said, according to a White House transcript of his appearance Tuesday at a high school in North Nashua, N.H.

"You don't go buying a boat when you can barely pay your mortgage," Obama said. "You don't blow a bunch of cash on Vegas when you're trying to save for college. You prioritize. You make tough choices."

As usual, what the Prez says and what he does is very different. Tough choices would include, ummm, I dunno.... CUTTING spending?

Meanwhile Mayor Goodwin was less than impressed.

Las Vegas Mayor Oscar Goodman said during a hastily called news conference that Obama is no friend to Las Vegas and would not be welcomed here if he visits.

"I'll do everything I can to give him the boot," Goodman said. "This president is a real slow learner."

Goodman and others are worried that Obama's words will discourage visitors from coming to Las Vegas and depress the industry further.

"Enough is enough!" Democratic Congresswoman Shelley Berkley said in a statement. "President Obama needs to stop picking on Las Vegas and he needs to let Americans decide for themselves how and where to spend their hard-earned vacation dollars."

Is it me or is the press starting to turn on the President?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obama_las_vegas

Listen Pal, if you think Libs are going to hold the messiah to his own words, you are sadly mistaken. All that matters is 'They Care' and by implication 'You Don't' After all, you want to keep your money when they have so many good intentions that they want to use your money for.

He kept his promises on transparency. Remember all those healthcare discussions on C-Span? Oh, you didn't see them. Wonder why!

Charity is so easy when it's someone else's dough. You Selfish bazztid!

 

[Anonymous]

You know what I meant, Lance hater.

Yeah, well you're a cancer lover.

 

[CentralCaliBike]

Fortunately for this guy the USA still has a cutting-edge healthcare system.

http://www.vancouversun.com/health/premier+heart+surgery+sparks+debate/2516321/story.html

Interesting statement by a public official about the Canadian medical system.

 

[CentralCaliBike]

It's weird, it is not nearly that simple, for every liberal fanboy Scribe or ChrisE there is a conservative hater ravens or Socal Scott. For every liberal hater TFF there is a conservative fanboy CentralCalibike, greed and selfishness seems to know no bounds.
Edit: Still doesn't mean I'll like you when you spout some of the stuff you do on the Lance threads Carbon Cranky.

I know I shouldn't but I have to ask - what is the difference between a "conservative hater" and a "conservative fanboy" > and where does the greed and selfishness part come in? I have been busy so perhaps I just missed the thought of the thread.

 

[Hugh Januss]

I know I shouldn't but I have to ask - what is the difference between a "conservative hater" and a "conservative fanboy" > and where does the greed and selfishness part come in? I have been busy so perhaps I just missed the thought of the thread.

Yes, you did , it was with regard to the only question bigger than US politics. Lance Armstrong.

 

[ravens]

business owners have no idea what their taxes will be

February 1, 2010
Trashing the Job Makers
by Victor Davis Hanson
Tribune Media Services

A year ago Barack Obama inherited a recession brought on by financial panic following the collapse of the housing bubble. The market crash was made worse by Wall Street shenanigans and recklessness at Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. Job losses followed.

In response, Obama pushed through a stimulus bill that went well beyond the borrowing done by George W. Bush in his last months in office. In fact, Obama and the Congress borrowed an additional $787 billion to infuse the economy with fresh job-creating cash.

The president warned us that without this borrowing, unemployment might reach double digits. Yet with the stimulus, unemployment has soared from 7.6 percent to 10 percent. That translates into over 4 million jobs lost in 2009 alone.

 

[rhubroma]

The American Liberal.

Ask the conservitives why the prodigal arabian son wasn't blown to smithereens about three days after 9-11...?

Other than liberal softliners.