World Politics

[FoxxyBrown1111]

And what do those who call these rebel mercenaries, "freedom fighters" ...

I call them freedom fighters...

... especially since the terrorists sponsored by USA (the so-called "Maidan revolutionaires") have burned down that building in Donesk or was it Odessa? Either way, if terrorists are called "revolutionaires", I call freedom fighters freddom fighters. If the US imperialists bomb and burn down whole countries and kill their democratically leaders in the name of "freedom and democracy", I call their opponents freedom fighters. And if every MSM reader repeats the "rebel" word, I call them by their real name: freedom fighters. And if a genocide in eastern Ukraine happens to those who fight against the US implemented politic gangsters, I call them freedom fighters. And I especially call them freedom fighters since it was stolen from them when US dollar sponsored gangsters spoiled their peaceful life. They defend themselves to gain their freedom back, thus freedom fighters...
All the bad things that happened you described in your post would have not happened if the ever greedy men stayed home, and didn´t try to provoke Russians and Ukrainians...

Sorry Amster. I know we are on different pages here. Let´s have better times in the upcoming NFL season.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

I call them freedom fighters...

... especially since the terrorists sponsored by USA (the so-called "Maidan revolutionaires") have burned down that building in Donesk or was it Odessa? Either way, if terrorists are called "revolutionaires", I call freedom fighters freddom fighters. If the US imperialists bomb and burn down whole countries and kill their democratically leaders in the name of "freedom and democracy", I call their opponents freedom fighters. And if every MSM reader repeats the "rebel" word, I call them by their real name: freedom fighters. And if a genocide in eastern Ukraine happens to those who fight against the US implemented politic gangsters, I call them freedom fighters. And I especially call them freedom fighters since it was stolen from them when US dollar sponsored gangsters spoiled their peaceful life. They defend themselves to gain their freedom back, thus freedom fighters...
All the bad things that happened you described in your post would have not happened if the ever greedy men stayed home, and didn´t try to provoke Russians and Ukrainians...

Sorry Amster. I know we are on different pages here. Let´s have better times in the upcoming NFL season.

All the bad things that happened is because greedy man. I agree. Totally spot on.

 

[python]

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The result of the resolution – which passed despite the US’ no vote – will be a UN probe into how Israel is using force in Gaza, ...

i may be the stupidest man on earth, but i can not figure out wtf is there to investigate the world should be debating sanctions and other ways to stop the killers from killing children...in stead, they are going to PROBE ...wtf

the favourite term of the us political elites - the 'world community' - has just backfired on the us duplicity. how ironic...

we are witnessing the us defending the cult of military force, the cult of arrogance, the cult of KNOWING their crimes will go unpunished.

i said this before - israel's behavior does not fit anything i grew up to respect about humanity, about the jewish people own fate... i am not naive. it is more than likely the hamas rebels are shooting rockets from public building like hospitals and schools.

does that justify wiping off 50 civilians to get those 3 rebels ?

only if you are an obnoxious, protected criminal drunk with own force.

a soldier brought up in the world i am from, would refuse such mission.

that Israelis supply such soldier in abundance, indicate to me their society is sick.

 

[ChrisE]

They should have listened to Patton.

 

[RetroActive]

Washington Is Escalating the Orchestrated Ukrainian “Crisis” to War — Paul Craig Roberts
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/201...ated-ukrainian-crisis-war-paul-craig-roberts/


Winter is coming, they better hurry up.

 

[Amsterhammer]

"investigations" are how this charade works. The IDF is, of course, "investigating" how the UN shelter came to be bombed today, killing dozens of women and children in a protected building. They will, no doubt, conclude that they didn't do it, and that Hamas bombed themselves to elicit pity and support.

The Israelis need to be condemned for this ongoing outrage of wholly disproportionate violence.

Foxxy, if it looks like a gangster thug, if it behaves like a gangster thug, if it talks and lies like a gangster thug, if it kidnaps journalists and murders its opponents like gangster thugs do, then I refuse to call secessionist gangster thugs 'freedom fighters'.

You know who are/were freedom fighters? Palestinians, the ANC, those who opposed Idi Amin, Pol Pot and Pinochet, to name just a few, were freedom fighters. imho

 

[RetroActive]

Foxxy, if it looks like a gangster thug, if it behaves like a gangster thug, if it talks and lies like a gangster thug, if it kidnaps journalists and murders its opponents like gangster thugs do, then I refuse to call secessionist gangster thugs 'freedom fighters'.

yeah, you're right. As Poroshenko says they're just vermin and as Tymoshenko says they should be nuked. Russians in the Ukraine, eight million problems to be dealt with.

 

[RetroActive]

Things In The Middle East Are About To Get Much Worse
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-24/things-gaza-are-about-get-much-worse

Fire up the West Bank too - why not?

I wonder how many mongongo nuts the San people collected today. If they don't make it I've lost all faith.

 

[RetroActive]

The FAA allowing the resumption of flights to Tel Aviv makes me suspect political pressure.

yeah, watch out for those Qassam rockets. Michael Bloomberg is a very brave man.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qassam_rocket

 

[Zam_Olyas]

All the bad things that happened is because greedy man. I agree. Totally spot on.

Reminds me of Ray person quote

"Look at this ****, how come we can't ever invade a cool country, like chicks in bikinis, you know, how come counties like that don't ever need Marines, I'll tell you why, it's lack of ***** that ****s countries up, lack of ***** is the root ****ing cause of all global instability, if more hajis were getting quality *****, there'd be no reason for us to come over and **** em up like this, cause a nutbusting ***, is a happy ***."

"this whole thing comes down to *****! Look, if you take the Republican Guard and comp their asses for a week in Vegas, no ****ing war! "

Of course Ukraine has the infractructre but that post reminded me Ray Person.

 

[ToreBear]

yeah, watch out for those Qassam rockets. Michael Bloomberg is a very brave man.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qassam_rocket

A plane can be brought down by a few birds. A rocket with or without explosives can be dangerous.

There is risk and there is acceptable risk. The question is if the airline/insurance company/pilot feel the risk is low enough to be called an acceptable risk.

I don't think Bloomberg was most concerned about the safety of airline passengers.

 

[blutto]

"Armed robbery in Gaza - Israel, US, UK carve up the spoils of Palestine's stolen gas

Israel desperately covets Gaza's gas as a 'cheap stop-gap' yielding revenues of $6-7 billion a year, writes Nafeez Ahmed. The UK's BG and the US's Noble Energy are lined up to do the dirty work - but first Hamas must be 'uprooted' from Gaza, and Fatah bullied into cutting off its talks with Russia's Gazprom."


http://www.theecologist.org/News/ne...e_up_the_spoils_of_palestines_stolen_gas.html

....ironicistical given the players involved ain't it....

Cheers

 

[blutto]

more - http://www.reuters.com/article/2014...sis-commander-exclusive-idUSKBN0FS1V920140723

....well this story suddenly has become a story all of its own with accusations of misrepresentation of facts, biased editing and outright lies....

"According to Reuters, the reporting of its story was by one person, the writing by a second, and the editing by a third. From my experience in journalism, this means that we don’t know whose story it is, how the story was changed, or what its reliability might be."

....so the original story which seemed fairly clear in its point is now a bit of a mystery that speaks of manipulation to paint a particular picture rather than a portrayal of fact....

"Russian-Backed Separatist Leader Khodakovsky Changes His Story to Reuters — or Does He? "

...from ...

http://www.interpretermag.com/russi...vsky-changes-his-story-to-reuters-or-does-he/

....oh well the desired effect of the original story has probably already been neatly realized and the damage done....and as we all know retractions generally end up on page 16 in both the newspapers and in most peoples minds..

Cheers

 

[blutto]

....find below an article that looks critically at both the corpse-gate and black box-gate hysteria that has incensed so many ( including our own Mr Amster ) and is coincidently a key element in the current campaign of Russia/Putin bashing...

...very interesting read that may help put the outrage in the West over these stories into perspective....think low key version of the WMD story that the rubes gobbled up like a Big Mac and washed down with a Big Gulp...

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/07/25/russia-bashing-hatred-hysteria-and-humbug/

Cheers

 

[Bustedknuckle]

And what do those who call these rebel mercenaries, "freedom fighters" think about their kidnapping of journalists? Or about the fact that they denied having the black boxes all weekend, then suddenly produced them after Vlad spoke up?

Unless you happen to have a personal connection to E. Ukraine, I just can't see how any honest, moral person, whatever their personal ideology may be, can support this Russian inspired, supported, armed, largely mercenary, group of thugs.

Drunk gang members? Vodka to all my 'friends'...the EU needs to get involved..isn't Norway a member of NATO?? I know not in the EU(smart).

 

[blutto]

....couple of on target comments from Andy Borowitz..

"Unfortunately, we live in a world where saying "Children should not be killed" can lead to a bitter political argument."

...and...

"Now that I know "children should not be killed" is such a hot-button statement
I'm going back to my old standby:
I like kittens. "

.... if you have some spare time maybe spend a few moments on Andy's facebook site...much fun and giggles...

https://www.facebook.com/andyborowitz

Cheers

 

[python]

Ukrainian Air Defense Exercises Might be Behind Malaysian Aircraft Crash – Source

http://en.ria.ru/world/20140725/191...ense-Exercises-Might-be-Behind-Malaysian.html

the source is said to originate within the ukrainian defense department.

such details as the exact identification of a military unit involved (156th Anti-Aircraft Regiment), its location and the coordinated drill with 2 su-25 planes are consistent with the version of the events given at the russian defense ministry briefing. imo, this means the russians are likely in possession of the local ukrainian commander conversations and radar data ready to hit the table...when the 'independent' investigation heats up.

 

[blutto]

....for all of you that enjoy an interesting article by an interesting writer here is the latest from Pepe Escobar...

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/CEN-01-230714.html

...for those fervently committed to an agenda that is at odds with the thrust of Mr Escobar's articles I apologize for the waste of precious bandwidth...

Cheers

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Ukrainian Air Defense Exercises Might be Behind Malaysian Aircraft Crash – Source

http://en.ria.ru/world/20140725/191...ense-Exercises-Might-be-Behind-Malaysian.html

the source is said to originate within the ukrainian defense department.

such details as the exact identification of a military unit involved (156th Anti-Aircraft Regiment), its location and the coordinated drill with 2 su-25 planes are consistent with the version of the events given at the russian defense ministry briefing. imo, this means the russians are likely in possession of the local ukrainian commander conversations and radar data ready to hit the table...when the 'independent' investigation heats up.

Since it's Rio novosti, i am very sceptical of the report. However, this is good http://rt.com/news/175284-ukraine-contributor-phillips-hostage/ ...good that he is released.

 

[python]

Since it's Rio novosti, i am very sceptical of the report. However, this is good http://rt.com/news/175284-ukraine-contributor-phillips-hostage/ ...good that Graham Phililps is released.

i think it is valid to be skeptical. i am not ready to buy it either unless it is proven. but the report, the way i understood it, not just hinted at but listed specific alleged facts. i perfectly understand it's the info war, and me thinks they expect their facts to be refuted by another set of alleged facts, either by the ukis or the americans.

so far, we had american statements to take their intelligence word (with some serious backpedaling) and the russian military briefing filled with charts, space images and radar data...

 

[python]

Israel very publicly and loudly just told the us to mind its own business, when obama suggested a humanitarian siezfire. A supposedly vassal whose very existences depended on the us since israels inception has just told its lifeline to go and fork itself..

Can one come up with the greater irony, or the jews indeed run the us foregn policy ?

Im no expert in the us history, but was that what the general patton warned about ?

 

[hrotha]

Eh, it's not the first time Israel clashes with the US over diplomatic matters. Israel regularly tells the US to go **** themselves. So often, in fact, that the US's unconditional support for Israel at the UN is quite jarring and even kind of hard to understand even ascribing a ridiculously large, lizardmen-conspiracy-level influence to the Jewish lobby.

 

[python]

Eh, it's not the first time Israel clashes with the US over diplomatic matters. Israel regularly tells the US to go **** themselves. So often, in fact, that the US's unconditional support for Israel at the UN is quite jarring and even kind of hard to understand even ascribing a ridiculously large, lizardmen-conspiracy-level influence to the Jewish lobby.

please state your own theory/scenario/libretto even if the lizards you seem to be concerned about did not cloud your supposedly superior brain ?

 

[hrotha]

please state your own theory/scenario/libretto even if the lizards you seem to be concerned about did not cloud your supposedly superior brain ?

Why the hostility? And the projecting?

 

[python]

Why the hostility? And the projecting?

thats what lizards ask to varify when they are inserted as the subject of theories having nothing to do with lizards but israel and the palestine...or you have more reasonable explanations since it was you, no one but you, hrotha, who inserted lizards..I understand your points totally, in fact I agree with you, except wtf lizards had to do with it ?
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Hrotha: 'even ascribing a ridiculously large, lizardmen-conspiracy-level influence'