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blutto said:
....from an interview with a Al-Nusra commander....

Jürgen Todenhöfer: How is the relation between you and the United States? Does the U.S. support the rebels?

Abu al-Ezz: Yes, the U.S. support the opposition, but not directly. They support the countries which support us. But we are not yet satisfied with this support. They should support us with highly developed weapons. We have won battles thanks to the "TOW" missiles. We reached a balance with the regime through these missiles. We received the tanks from Libya through Turkey. Also the "BMs" - multiple rocket launchers. The regime excels us only with their fighter jets, missiles and missile launchers. We captured a share of its missile launchers and a large share came from abroad. But it is through the American "TOW" that we have the situation in some regions under control.

To whom did the U.S. hand those missiles before they were brought to you? Were those missiles first given to the Free Syrian Army by the U.S. and from there to you?

No, the missiles were give directly to us. They were delivered to a certain group. When the "road" was closed and we were besieged we had officers here from Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Israel and the United States.

What did those officers do?

Experts! Experts for the use of satellites, missiles, reconnaissance work, thermal surveillance cameras ...

Were there also American experts?

Yes, experts from several countries.

Including Americans?

Yes. The Americans are on our side, but not as it should be. For example we were told: We must capture and conquer "Battalion 47". Saudi Arabia gave us 500 million Syrian pounds. For taking the "al-Muslimiya" infantry school years ago we received from Kuwait 1.5 million Kuwaiti dinar and from Saudi Arabia 5 million U.S. dollars.

From the governments or from private persons?

From the governments.

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2016/09/todenh%C3%B6fer-interview-with-al-nusra-commander-the-americans-stand-on-our-side.html

Cheers

Looks like Russia decided to remedy the "experts situation" by deleting the CIC that Abu al-Ezz was talking about. Likely payback for the Deir Ezzor "mistake". I find it a bit terrifying that US and Russian forces are fighting opposite sides of a hot war. Not through proxies like we enjoyed throughout the Cold War, but directly. And now they're starting to shoot at one another.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-coalition-intelligence-operations-room-inside-syria-destroyed-by-russian-missile-attack-thirty-israeli-american-british-turkish-saudi-qatari-intelligence-officials-killed-report/5547099

John Swanson

Russia killing US and other, military members...first time, we'll see where this goes. Not really 'at one another', yet. The US striking Syrian forces not like Russia killing NATO military members.

But over a week ago and no real info...hard to believe Russia didn't know who was manning the center. Plus the intel center helping with info on Syria and Russia targeting ISIL...

Why not? Syrian forces trying to fight off terrorist groups....IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY!! I am not advocating that Russia or Syrian troops attack NATO members, but Syrian troops have the right to defend their homeland as much as America, or Russia, or Great Britain, or France or anyone else.

I don't see any good reason for US led troops to bomb Syrian forces.
 
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....or provide them with supplies and intell.....and then complain when the fruits of their labour leave the farm and go off and spread the joy in the Western world ( though isn't that also known as "fund raiser" which is something you actually rely upon as a part of your overall strategy... )....

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Bustedknuckle said:
ScienceIsCool said:
blutto said:
....from an interview with a Al-Nusra commander....

Jürgen Todenhöfer: How is the relation between you and the United States? Does the U.S. support the rebels?

Abu al-Ezz: Yes, the U.S. support the opposition, but not directly. They support the countries which support us. But we are not yet satisfied with this support. They should support us with highly developed weapons. We have won battles thanks to the "TOW" missiles. We reached a balance with the regime through these missiles. We received the tanks from Libya through Turkey. Also the "BMs" - multiple rocket launchers. The regime excels us only with their fighter jets, missiles and missile launchers. We captured a share of its missile launchers and a large share came from abroad. But it is through the American "TOW" that we have the situation in some regions under control.

To whom did the U.S. hand those missiles before they were brought to you? Were those missiles first given to the Free Syrian Army by the U.S. and from there to you?

No, the missiles were give directly to us. They were delivered to a certain group. When the "road" was closed and we were besieged we had officers here from Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Israel and the United States.

What did those officers do?

Experts! Experts for the use of satellites, missiles, reconnaissance work, thermal surveillance cameras ...

Were there also American experts?

Yes, experts from several countries.

Including Americans?

Yes. The Americans are on our side, but not as it should be. For example we were told: We must capture and conquer "Battalion 47". Saudi Arabia gave us 500 million Syrian pounds. For taking the "al-Muslimiya" infantry school years ago we received from Kuwait 1.5 million Kuwaiti dinar and from Saudi Arabia 5 million U.S. dollars.

From the governments or from private persons?

From the governments.

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2016/09/todenh%C3%B6fer-interview-with-al-nusra-commander-the-americans-stand-on-our-side.html

Cheers

Looks like Russia decided to remedy the "experts situation" by deleting the CIC that Abu al-Ezz was talking about. Likely payback for the Deir Ezzor "mistake". I find it a bit terrifying that US and Russian forces are fighting opposite sides of a hot war. Not through proxies like we enjoyed throughout the Cold War, but directly. And now they're starting to shoot at one another.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-coalition-intelligence-operations-room-inside-syria-destroyed-by-russian-missile-attack-thirty-israeli-american-british-turkish-saudi-qatari-intelligence-officials-killed-report/5547099

John Swanson

Russia killing US and other, military members...first time, we'll see where this goes. Not really 'at one another', yet. The US striking Syrian forces not like Russia killing NATO military members.

But over a week ago and no real info...hard to believe Russia didn't know who was manning the center. Plus the intel center helping with info on Syria and Russia targeting ISIL...

Why not? Syrian forces trying to fight off terrorist groups....IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY!! I am not advocating that Russia or Syrian troops attack NATO members, but Syrian troops have the right to defend their homeland as much as America, or Russia, or Great Britain, or France or anyone else.

I don't see any good reason for US led troops to bomb Syrian forces.

I don't either but the previous point was about Russia and the US going toe to toe.
 
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ScienceIsCool wrote:
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2016/09/todenh%C3%B6fer-interview-with-al-nusra-commander-the-americans-stand-on-our-side.html


Looks like Russia decided to remedy the "experts situation" by deleting the CIC that Abu al-Ezz was talking about. Likely payback for the Deir Ezzor "mistake". I find it a bit terrifying that US and Russian forces are fighting opposite sides of a hot war. Not through proxies like we enjoyed throughout the Cold War, but directly. And now they're starting to shoot at one another.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-coalition-intelligence-operations-room-inside-syria-destroyed-by-russian-missile-attack-thirty-israeli-american-british-turkish-saudi-qatari-intelligence-officials-killed-report/5547099

John Swanson
in time i may be proven wrong, but i am skeptical of that story. very skeptical...

an open missile attack ( i mean not a covert one by the means that could be denied) such an attack on a nato/israeli/us intelligence facility is a HUGE deal. it would be a shear stupidity as a retaliation for the us attack on the syrian troops in deir ezzor. much more significant, it would be an open invitation for wiping out many russian and syrian military and intelligence facilities of which, i am sure, the us and the israelis know quite a lot.

it is simply not done this way unless a major military confrontation btwn the us and russia was on the way and one of the sides was rushing to 'trim' the command and control of another...it may, and i fear that day, but luckily it is not there yet.

besides, the article's assertion that the 'operations room' was inside aleppo makes little sense. there is simply no compelling reason to keep such a numerous intelligence staff inside a war zone with zero protection - any of their alleged functions can be easily accomplished from the adjacent, numerous and SAFE american facilities in turkey, jordan, iraq even in the kurdish areas of syria...aleppo is a 15 min flight for a spy plain jumping off in turkey. not that there are no human intelligence personnel on the ground, but they stay fluid to survive as opposed to being sitting ducks inside some caves as the article alleged...

but it is absolutely true that the real tensions are up, besides the stupid talk by the mad chick samantha of the barbarians.

my read is that the russians are livid with the us defacto sinking their agrements by either being not willing or incapable of separating al nusra from the 'moderates' as vlad insisted. so, they will ratchet the pressure gradually...1st by trying, as i would, to pulverize the 'moderates' in aleppo ignoring any us pleas which to them are meaningless b/c they see them as a one-sided trick. then, when a sufficient progress on the ground will be achieved, they'll signal 'lets talk'. the us now is faced with some bad choices. supply more lethal weapons to the 'moderates' (which will inevitably BE used againST the us CRAFT) or get involved directly and a shooting war with russia and syria.

that hood is insane...
 
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2 huge nuclear-armed nations have just entered a sharp escalation...and they are NOT most people in the west would think

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-pakistan-india-kashmir-idUSKCN11Z0IJ?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Reuters%2FworldNews+%28Reuters+World+News%29

"The bigger message is that Pakistan is now on notice that cross-border attacks would be part of our response if there are any more terrorist attacks," said former Indian air vice marshal Manmohan Bahadur

besides the traditional animosity btwn the 2 states over kashmir, some very interesting shifts in geopolitical currents had occurred (not in the article). like for instance the us having recently concluded their 1st ever joint military exercise with india earlier or the 1st ever russian-pakistan military exercise concluding last week. also, india the words most active buyer of military gear, had shifted its procurement from russia (not entirely of course) to the west. i've been also following with one eye the china-india relationship. while still competitors, there seems a substantial warming due to increased trade.

syria, shmyria...get used to shmakistan :geek:
 
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movingtarget said:

....well you know this is the gawd's honest truth because Bellingcat is involved...

A British-led online investigative team says it has identified Russian soldiers linked to a surface-to-air missile suspected of downing Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 in Ukraine in 2014.

The Bellingcat report paints a picture of up to 100 Russian soldiers and officers who it says could have known about or been involved in the plane’s downing on 17 July 2014, at the height of the conflict between Ukrainian forces and Russia-backed separatists. All 298 people on board died in the crash.

Drawing on open source data such as soldiers’ social network photos, an online forum for soldiers’ relatives and Google Earth satellite imagery, the report expands on previous Bellingcat findings to argue that a Buk missile belonging to the 2nd battalion of Russia’s 53rd anti-aircraft missile brigade likely shot down the Boeing 777.

The head of the MH17 investigation, Fred Westerbeke, told victims’ families in a letter last week that finding and prosecuting those responsible “could take a long time”. But the new report raises the likelihood that “justice could be served”, Bellingcat head Eliot Higgins told the Guardian. Although names were changed and faces blurred in the public report, the identities were provided in a version given to Dutch prosecutors in December
.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/24/mh17-report-identifies-russian-soldiers-suspected-of-downing-plane-in-ukraine

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Moscow, 9/29/2016, 16:00 local time

urgent ! i just received a sensational message from an exceedngly reliable source that would prefer to remain anonymous.

vlad putin has been in deep depression since the end of the american presidential debate. the source said his personal guard overheard vlad pounding his kremlin office table screaming, 'i hate that effing b*ch'.

furthermore, the source said, vlad's condition deteriorated sharply after a state department official threatened to imposed a round of new sanctions should russia continue to support barbarism. it was also leaked that mr putin was close to a complete nervous breakdown with his whole body shaking from fear after mr kerry threatened to cut off all talks on the syrian crisis if russia continued to see the light held by the honorable us secretary of state who would never lie.

the source further speculated, should things continue to deteriorate and the present rate, he would not exclude that provided vlad had not gone mad entirely, mr putin may recuse his throne and possibly ask for a political asylum in kazakhstan or china.

stay tuned :lol: :D
 
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...i already opined earlier.

the question should really be reversed, what is the us up to ? who is it supporting in syria and is the obama admin ready to pay the due price - the little thing it usually passed to others - for the ambiguous policies and mistakes it followed.

in syria, they support at the same time turkey and their sworn enemies, the kurds. what is the us up to ? is it not obvious they try to have both the kurds and the turks do their bidding wrt to isis spilling the turkish and kurdish blood...

or again in the same syria, who the us prioritized fighting, the assad regime or issis or both ? to that extent, the us signed a comprehensive agreement with russia. both sides let known the agreement was about their joint action against 'bad' terrorists AFTER separating the 'bad terrorists from 'good' terrorists. the russkies said, 'lets make it public, why not let everyone see what we signed'. 'No', said the uncle. it must stay secret.

a natural question then arose, what exactly the americans have tried to hide ? the answer got obvious after 7 days. soon after the 'good' terrorists refused to separate, the ceasefire ended. 2days before america massacred 100s of syrian military to round up the mess. clearly, the us did not want that public learned the 'good' terrorists are pro-alquaida supporters valued for their anti- assad role.

and as i speculated above, in the presence of the us inability or unwillingness to separate the terrorists, vlad simply did what he had consistently done - 'we BOTH stick by the agreement or NONE'.

to me, there is absolutely no secret about what vlad is up to - he is pulverizing the us supported 'good terrorists' not dissimilar to the us massacring the syrian soldiers. except he's not issuing false, cynical apologies for doing so....it's a very brash, ballsy not to mention a risky behavior facing the pentagon hawks. but, to him - i speculate - he wants to know what the us is up to ? who does it really support ? whose and how much blood it wants to be spill to go after which goals ? which priorities ? he thinks of lybia when the russians in the unsc gave the west a mandate for a no-fly zone that was turned around into a downright regime change. he thinks of iraq and afghanistan ongoing bloody mess where russia stayed away.

in syria - and in crimea for that matter - he decided to play hard ball b/c he's fed up with america defining russia's core national security for him. very unfortunately, such a position so far hasn't reduced the syrian suffering :mad:
 
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BullsFan22 said:

....laugh now but when they take over and knock on your door to take away your freedoms and drink all your craft beer you won't be laughing , you commie pinko libbbrrrrllll, fellow traveller, useful idiot guy person, you will be sooooooooooo sorry....

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blutto said:
BullsFan22 said:

....laugh now but when they take over and knock on your door to take away your freedoms and drink all your craft beer you won't be laughing , you commie pinko libbbrrrrllll, fellow traveller, useful idiot guy person, you will be sooooooooooo sorry....

Cheers


Well, once Hillary gets in the WH, she'll make sure that we are all safe and sound (including you, our lovable friends to the North)!! No fear!!!
 
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....the absolute and utter bull$ht that is Merikan foreign policy writ large, and just doing what is always does, just fcuking up the world in exceptional ways.....and once again answering the question why do they hate us, answer , because you have a very long history of being monumentally stupid corrupt arrogant murdering ar$eholes....

No one on the ground believes in this mission or this effort”, a former Green Beret writes of America’s covert and clandestine programs to train and arm Syrian insurgents, “they know we are just training the next generation of jihadis, so they are sabotaging it by saying, ‘*** it, who cares?’”. “I don’t want to be responsible for Nusra guys saying they were trained by Americans,” the Green Beret added.

In a detailed report, US Special Forces Sabotage White House Policy gone Disastrously Wrong with Covert Ops in Syria, Jack Murphy, himself a former Green Beret (U.S. Special Forces), recounts a former CIA officer having told him how the “the Syria covert action program is [CIA Director John] Brennan’s baby …Brennan was the one who breathed life into the Syrian Task Force … John Brennan loved that regime-change ***.”

In gist, Murphy tells the story of U.S. Special Forces under one Presidential authority, arming Syrian anti-ISIS forces, whilst the CIA, obsessed with overthrowing President Bashar al-Assad, and operating under a separate Presidential authority, conducts a separate and parallel program to arm anti-Assad insurgents.

Murphy’s report makes clear the CIA disdain for combatting ISIS (though this altered somewhat with the beheading of American journalist James Foley in August 2014): “With the CIA wanting little to do with anti-ISIS operations as they are focused on bringing down the Assad regime, the agency kicked the can over to 5th Special Forces Group. Basing themselves out of Jordan and Turkey” — operating under “military activities” authority, rather than under the CIA’s coveted Title 50 covert action authority.

The “untold story,” Murphy writes, is one of abuse, as well as bureaucratic infighting, which has only contributed to perpetuating the Syrian conflict.

But it is not the “turf wars,” nor the “abuse and waste,” which occupies the central part of Murphy’s long report, that truly matters; nor even the contradictory and self-defeating nature of U.S. objectives pursued. Rather, the report tells us quite plainly why the attempted ceasefires have failed (although this is not explicitly treated in the analysis), and it helps explain why parts of the U.S. Administration (Defense Secretary Ashton Carter and CIA Director Brenner) have declined to comply with President Obama’s will – as expressed in the diplomatic accord (the recent ceasefire) reached with the Russian Federation.

The story is much worse than that hinted in Murphy’s title: it underlies the present mess which constitutes relations between the U.S. and Russia, and the collapse of the ceasefire.

https://consortiumnews.com/2016/09/29/how-the-us-armed-up-syrian-jihadists/

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Russia's Putin suspends plutonium cleanup accord with U.S. because of 'unfriendly' acts
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-usa-nuclear-idUSKCN1230YN?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Reuters%2FworldNews+%28Reuters+World+News%29

it is big deal of monumental significance !

in essence, stopping the disposal of 34 tonnes of weapons grade plutonium opens an unlimited reintegration of the plutonium back into hundreds of new mass destruction weapons. for a chilling comparison, the renegade north korea is thought to own a couple kilos of plutonium that drives the whole world nuts.

the significance, of course, is that it's another fcuk u from vlad at the time the us is thundering its favorite but proven useless stick of sanctions. what is interesting - in fact indicative of the western msm in general - is that the reuters article dropped entirely the factual explanation why technically the russians are right - the us simply was not holding its part of the deal. that is, it has not built a reprocessing plant it obliged to while russia has built one and maxed its output.

a more neutral portal explained:
...The building of a MOX fuel reprocessing plant was opposed in the United States in the wake of the 2011 Fukushima nuclear disaster in Japan over safety fears and high cost of the project, which is already billions of dollars over budget.
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/russia-ends-plutonium-disposal-deal-unfriendly-us-1430969439
 
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...wow. just heard this on france 24 (following the press briefing btwn the foreign ministers of france and russia) plus some bits from other sources. russia is essentially extending a complete air cover over the regime military.

... in response to some media comments that the us is in the process of deciding to strike the regime again, the 'russian pentagon' issued a no nonsense warning. any attempt will be considered an attack on the russian facilities in syria as there will be no time to differentiate WHO is a potential target. the spokesman said that both the military professionals and the dilettantes may be surprised to discover the range of their anti-air missiles and that there are no invisible craft. further more, he said the regime air-protection was boosted drastically following the slaughter in deir ezzor...

also, their f. minister lavrov said the russian position following the collapse of the agreement with the us is NOT likely to soften if not met with the committed reciprocity. he let out a curious bit to support his stance. for the 1st time he revealed a private convo with mr kerry who he said admitted the us inability to control some syrian rebels and thus mr. suggested that russia employ its troops to secure the rebel separation. to which lavrov said, 'sure but together with your troops'. to which, per lavrov, kerry replied nonchalantly 'it's too dangerous for the us troops.'

this tough talk follows the unilateral russian revocation of 3 nuclear-related agreements with the us in the last 2 days.

interesting...
 
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....Western media and simple arithmetic ...never the twain shall meet ?....

Saturday, October 08, 2016

Liz Sly and various Western propaganda on Aleppo: so how many hospitals are there in East Aleppo? Let us do a count

Zaynab Srur of As-Safir followed Western media counts of hospitals in Eastern Aleppo, and here is my summary of her article (I can't judge one way or another the veracity of the various reports, of course): Physicians without Borders said three days ago that there are only "four out of eight" hospitals functioning in East Aleppo and that they were bombed. Aljazeera claimed that there are six hospitals functioning. The Guardian said that there are three hospitals left in East Aleppo, and that one of the three was bombed by Russian and Syrian regime. This number clashes with the number of Physicians without Borders. CNN, on the other hand, said that there is one hospital left in East Aleppo still functioning out of four and mentioned a 3rd hospital bombed. The hospital mentioned by CNN is not listed by Physicians without Borders. Huffington Post listed five hospitals in East Aleppo which are still functioning which also clash with other counts. But a month prior, Huffington Post has mentioned three hospitals in East Aleppo. But the local committees of the Syrian rebels said TWO MONTHS ago that that there are no hospitals left anymore in East Aleppo, but the same committee later said that two functioning hospitals were bombed. And those same committees were the major source of "news" from East Aleppo for Western media. As for the notorious Liz Sly (who basically takes the propaganda of Syrian rebels and produces it in English) of the Washington Post, she wrote on Sep. 28 that there are six remaining hospitals in East Aleppo. But six days later, Liz Sly mentioned eight remaining hospitals (the number of Physicians without Borders). And that is how the truth is disseminated about the news from Syria in Western media.

http://angryarab.blogspot.ca/2016/10/liz-sly-and-various-western-propaganda.html

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^those silly medical amateurs don't know how to count.

here is a confirmed statistic (let's start with 5)... about how the hardened defenders of freedom and liberty in the mostest bestest surgicallest way (do i sound blutto ?) -- taking care of the hospital business.

Kunduz, Afghanistan.
Twenty-two patients and hospital staff members were killed when American bombs hit the hospital late Saturday night.

Baghdad, Iraq
U.S. aircraft bombed a maternity hospital run by the International Red Crescent ... Several people were killed and 27 injured, including some medical personnel.

Ramadi, Iraq
Hundreds of American troops stormed into the largest hospital in Western Iraq on July 5, 2006.

Belgrade, Serbia
After accidentally bombing the Chinese Embassy that killed three Chinese journalists, NATO warplanes bombed a hospital in Belgrade

Nis, Serbia
NATO dropped cluster bombs on a crowded outdoor market and a hospital in the Serbian city of Nis

Mogadishu, Somalia
Turkish and American forces involved in a United Nations’ peacekeeping mission in Somalia bombed a Digfer Hospital, where MSF was operating. Three patients were killed, and the hospital was badly damaged.

weddings is a separate spreadsheet..

embassies is a separate spread sheet

a separate spreadsheet is also on the deliberately burned down whole towns with accidentally found hospitals in them (like tokyo, dresden etc etc). and we are not talking the nukes yet.

damn those amateur statisticians...
 
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python said:
^those silly medical amateurs don't know how to count.

here is a confirmed statistic (let's start with 5)... about how the hardened defenders of freedom and liberty in the mostest bestest surgicallest way (do i sound blutto ?) -- taking care of the hospital business.

Kunduz, Afghanistan.
Twenty-two patients and hospital staff members were killed when American bombs hit the hospital late Saturday night.

Baghdad, Iraq
U.S. aircraft bombed a maternity hospital run by the International Red Crescent ... Several people were killed and 27 injured, including some medical personnel.

Ramadi, Iraq
Hundreds of American troops stormed into the largest hospital in Western Iraq on July 5, 2006.

Belgrade, Serbia
After accidentally bombing the Chinese Embassy that killed three Chinese journalists, NATO warplanes bombed a hospital in Belgrade

Nis, Serbia
NATO dropped cluster bombs on a crowded outdoor market and a hospital in the Serbian city of Nis

Mogadishu, Somalia
Turkish and American forces involved in a United Nations’ peacekeeping mission in Somalia bombed a Digfer Hospital, where MSF was operating. Three patients were killed, and the hospital was badly damaged.

weddings is a separate spreadsheet..

embassies is a separate spread sheet

a separate spreadsheet is also on the deliberately burned down whole towns with accidentally found hospitals in them (like tokyo, dresden etc etc). and we are not talking the nukes yet.

damn those amateur statisticians...

....and all that wailing and hand wringing over Aleppo in the Western media ....and this from the people that brought us the destruction of Fallujah ( which in many ways is not unlike the destruction of the Warsaw Jewish ghetto by the Nazis.....save of course for the use of DU munitions which is a gift that may well be giving for thousands of years to come....and the exceptionalists came to find WMD's in Iraq, ohhh the absolutely nauseating irony !....)

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....here is what happens when I get stuck in the house doing laundry and doing everything possible to avoid vacuuming ....a hilarious read...

On Sep 28, the French mission to the UN claimed that two hospitals in east-Aleppo had been bombed. It documented this in a tweet with a picture of destroyed buildings in Gaza. The French later deleted that tweet. It is not the first time such false claims and willful obfuscations were made by “western” officials. But usually they shy away from outright lies. Not so Jackass Kerry. In a press event yesterday, before talks with the French FM Ayrault about a new UNSCR, he said about Syria:


Last night, the regime attacked yet another hospital, and 20 people were killed and 100 people were wounded. And Russia and the regime owe the world more than an explanation about why they keep hitting hospitals and medical facilities and children and women. These are acts that beg for an appropriate investigation of war crimes. And those who commit these would and should be held accountable for these actions.

No opposition group has claimed that such an extremely grave event happened. None. No press agency has a record of it. The MI-6 disinformation outlet SOHR in Britain, which quite reliably notes every claimed casualty and is frequently cited in “western” media, has not said anything about such an event anywhere in Syria. The grave incident Jackass claimed did not happen. Jackass made it up. Was it supposed to happen, got canceled and Jackass missed the memo? Jackass used the lie to call for war crime investigations and punishment. This in front of cameras, at an official event with a foreign guest in the context of a UNSCR. This is grave. This is nearly as grave as Colin Powell’s false claims of WMD in Iraq in front of the UNSC. Early reports, like this one at CBS News, repeat the claim:


Jackass said Syrian forces hit a hospital overnight, killing 20 people and wounding 100, describing what would be the latest strike by Moscow or its ally in Damascus on a civilian target.

But the NYT write-up of the event, which includes Jackass’ demand for war crime investigations, does not mention the hospital bombing claim. Not at all. For the self-acclaimed “paper of record”, Jackass’ lie did not happen. Likewise the WaPo which in its own write-up makes no mention of the false claim. The latest AP write-up by Matthew Lee also omits the lie. This is curious as Matt Lee is obviously aware of it. The State Dept’s daily press briefing yesterday had a whole section on it. Video (@3:30) shows that it is Matt who asks these questions:


Q: Okay. On to Syria and the Secretary’s comments earlier this morning, one is: Do you know what strike he was talking about in his comments overnight on a hospital in Aleppo?
A: I think the Secretary’s referring actually to a strike that we saw happen yesterday on a field hospital in the Rif Dimashq Governorate. I’m not exactly positive that that’s what he was referring to, but I think he was referring to actually one that was —
Q: Not one in Aleppo?
A: I believe it was – I think it was – I think he – my guess is – I’m guessing here that he was a bit mistaken on location and referring to one…
Q: But you don’t have certainty, though?
A: I don’t. Best I got, best information I got, is that he was most likely referring to one yesterday in this governorate, but it could just be an honest mistake.
Q: If we could – if we can nail that down with certainty what he was talking about —
A: I’ll do the best I can, Matt.

This goes on for a while. But there was no hospital attack in Rif Dimashq nor in Aleppo. Later on DoS spokesman Kirby basically admits that Kerry lied:


A: I can’t corroborate that.

It also turns out that Jackass has no evidence for any war crimes and no plausible way to initiate any official international procedure about such. And for what? To bully Russia? Fat chance, that would be a hopeless endeavor and Jackass should know that. Jackass is desperate. He has completely lost the plot on Syria. Russia is in the lead and will do whatever needs to be done. Apart from starting a World War, the Obama administration no longer has any way to significantly influence that. Jackass is only one tool of the Obama administration. Later that day, DNI Clapper made other accusations against Russia:


The Pindosi Intelligence Community is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of emails from pindo persons and institutions, including from pindo political organizations. The recent disclosures of alleged hacked emails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts. These thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the pindo election process. Such activity is not new to Moscow: the Russians have used similar tactics and techniques across Europe and Eurasia, for example, to influence public opinion there. We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia’s senior-most officials could have authorized these activities.

Translation: “WE DO NOT KNOW at all (“we are confident”, “we believe”, “directed”) who did these hacks and WE DO NOT HAVE the slightest evidence (“consistent with”,”based on the scope and sensitivity”) that Russia is involved, so let me throw some chaff and try to bamboozle you all.” Craig Murray calls it a blatant neocon lie. It was obviously the DNC that manipulated the pindo election, contrary to its mandate, by promoting Clinton over Sanders. The hackers only proved that. It is also easy to see why these accusations are made now. Craig Murray writes:


That the Obama administration has made a formal accusation of Russia based on no evidence is, on one level, astonishing. But it is motivated by desperation. WikiLeaks have already announced that they have a huge cache of other material relating to Hillary’s shenanigans. The White House is simply seeking to discredit it in advance by a completely false association with Russian intelligence.

The Obama administration is losing it. On Syria as well as on the election it can no longer assert its will. Trump, despite all dirty boy’s club talk he may do, has a significant chance to catch the presidency. He (-44%) and Clinton (-41%) are more disliked by the pindosi electorate than Putin (-38%). Any solution in Syria will be more in Russia’s than the Washington’s favor. Such desperation can be dangerous. Jackass is gasping at straws when he lies about Russia. The president and his colleagues at the Pentagon and the CIA have more kinetic means to express themselves. Could they order up something really stupid?

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Can anybody here just admit that what Russia and their Syrian allies are doing to the civilians in Aleppo is horrifying?

Out of only eight hospitals still functioning in east Aleppo, four hospitals and a blood bank were damaged by bombing in four days, one of them twice.

On 30 September, two hospitals in east Aleppo supported by MSF, among others, were damaged by continuous indiscriminate bombing. A blood bank was also damaged. Despite the damage, medical teams at the three facilities managed to continue their work.

On 1 October, a major trauma hospital was so severely damaged by bombing that it was forced to close. Two days later, as construction teams worked to repair the damage, the area was bombed again, killing a number of people and further damaging the hospital.

On 2 October, a surgical hospital was damaged by bombing, but remained open.

http://www.msf.org/en/article/syria-hospitals-hit-repeatedly-russian-and-syrian-airstrikes-condemning-hundreds-wounded
 
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djpbaltimore said:
Can anybody here just admit that what Russia and their Syrian allies are doing to the civilians in Aleppo is horrifying?

Out of only eight hospitals still functioning in east Aleppo, four hospitals and a blood bank were damaged by bombing in four days, one of them twice.

On 30 September, two hospitals in east Aleppo supported by MSF, among others, were damaged by continuous indiscriminate bombing. A blood bank was also damaged. Despite the damage, medical teams at the three facilities managed to continue their work.

On 1 October, a major trauma hospital was so severely damaged by bombing that it was forced to close. Two days later, as construction teams worked to repair the damage, the area was bombed again, killing a number of people and further damaging the hospital.

On 2 October, a surgical hospital was damaged by bombing, but remained open.

http://www.msf.org/en/article/syria-hospitals-hit-repeatedly-russian-and-syrian-airstrikes-condemning-hundreds-wounded

....so you are supporting ISIS in this conflict ?.....no big surprise.....after all you are a big fan of one of their big supporters...hope you sleep well tonight....

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