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History notwithstanding, did Ukraine have sovereign borders? Or were they a part of Russia? Before Russian troops and equipment crossed that border, heading into Ukraine, a separate nation? Was Crimea a state of Russia or part of a sovereign nation? Before Russian backed armed groups took control of Crimea? In 2014?
"competition", who 'wins' an argument on a bike forum...good for you.
blutto said:Bustedknuckle said:blutto said:....curious, which two ?....
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.Crimea and Ukraine...but I'm sure you'll say that was Obamas and Clinton's fault
....that funny real funny....hahaha....
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So you are saying Russia didn't 'annex' Crimea and there are not Russian troops and hardware in Ukraine?
Just checking since you seem to be the 'expert' here and on the US, ahem, USA politics section.
....you may want to perhaps acquaint yourself with the history of Crimea, especially the last couple of decades, and cross reference that that against the referendums that were run during that period and cross reference again against the Kosovo precedent...you know, so you can get a clearer idea of what actually went on there instead of just regurgitating some self-serving US propaganda......
...sure there are most likely Russians and Russians weapons in the Donbas ( it was, after all a heavily Russified part of the Soviet union and where they would obviously have and hence use weapons from that era...and btw the Ukrainians are using weapons from that era as well ) just like there are Americans fighting with ISIS/al Qaeda in Syria using American weapons (so using your intimation we can say the US government is actively backing ISIS ?...and as recent events "clearly" show also providing air-support and logistics ?.... )
...btw don't consider myself an "expert" but then the competition here is often pretty, errr, weak....as an example, I have some ability to read critically and can actually understand a lot of what I read....and I don't make really silly mistakes like say, continually confusing the old USSR with Russia ....so to the untrained eye it may well appear to be the case...
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History notwithstanding, did Ukraine have sovereign borders? Or were they a part of Russia? Before Russian troops and equipment crossed that border, heading into Ukraine, a separate nation? Was Crimea a state of Russia or part of a sovereign nation? Before Russian backed armed groups took control of Crimea? In 2014?
"competition", who 'wins' an argument on a bike forum...good for you.