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Syrian medics 'subjected to extreme intimidation' after Douma attack
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/17/syria-crisis-medics-intimidated-over-douma-gas-attack?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/17/syria-crisis-medics-intimidated-over-douma-gas-attack?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...lls-snap-vote-for-first-time-in-party-history
Should go better then May's snap election in 2017!
Should go better then May's snap election in 2017!
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-sanctions-response/russia-our-response-to-u-s-sanctions-will-be-precise-and-painful-idUSKBN1HP1DC?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Reuters%2FworldNews+%28Reuters+World+News%29
...lots of 'expectorant' developments in the last couple of days.
thump had again provided those insisting he's a russia stooge with more fodder by refusing to enact the sanctions his un rep (freaky nikki) had said were imminent. the boss reportedly even yelled at the first ever indian american diplomat woman so high up (did i say american indian ? no i did not !). the alternative media insisted that the real reason for the undrained sump hesitation was the tough russia threat linked above from reuters. as ever, the western source missed the key threat (not that it was hard to pick up but was obviously too scary to print for a laymen pocket) - a threat to american civilian airliners. the threat of crazy tariffs for overflying the worlds biggest air space that would put them nearly out of business.
another curious tid bit was that the douma visit by the international chem inspectors was postponed due to them being fired on by ....rebels. i am expecting a story the rebel firing was the assad cook up to hide the evidence. none so far on my rss.
and lastly, i read earlier that the british regulator opened an investigation into...guess who... rt for (not sure of the official term used) for poor reporting of the skripal case. that is, the rt reporting was pro the country they never hid to represent. they did not open an investigation against bbc and the guardian for their bias, but i bet there will be a very swift and tough response to any further bashing. i recall a month ago , the rus foreign dept spokes-lady said literally, 'her majesty's media will be summarily kicked out of russia if rt is persecuted any further'
that was a response to a similar move against rt. cant say, i am not having fun
...lots of 'expectorant' developments in the last couple of days.
thump had again provided those insisting he's a russia stooge with more fodder by refusing to enact the sanctions his un rep (freaky nikki) had said were imminent. the boss reportedly even yelled at the first ever indian american diplomat woman so high up (did i say american indian ? no i did not !). the alternative media insisted that the real reason for the undrained sump hesitation was the tough russia threat linked above from reuters. as ever, the western source missed the key threat (not that it was hard to pick up but was obviously too scary to print for a laymen pocket) - a threat to american civilian airliners. the threat of crazy tariffs for overflying the worlds biggest air space that would put them nearly out of business.
another curious tid bit was that the douma visit by the international chem inspectors was postponed due to them being fired on by ....rebels. i am expecting a story the rebel firing was the assad cook up to hide the evidence. none so far on my rss.
and lastly, i read earlier that the british regulator opened an investigation into...guess who... rt for (not sure of the official term used) for poor reporting of the skripal case. that is, the rt reporting was pro the country they never hid to represent. they did not open an investigation against bbc and the guardian for their bias, but i bet there will be a very swift and tough response to any further bashing. i recall a month ago , the rus foreign dept spokes-lady said literally, 'her majesty's media will be summarily kicked out of russia if rt is persecuted any further'
that was a response to a similar move against rt. cant say, i am not having fun
Why would OFCOM be interested in the Guardian? It's a broadcasting regulator.
Added to which OFCOM has castigated the BBC on many occasions for lack of impartiality.
At least have some idea of what you are talking about, please.
Added to which OFCOM has castigated the BBC on many occasions for lack of impartiality.
At least have some idea of what you are talking about, please.
Gotta love someone decrying bias right after claiming that it was rebels that shot at the U.N. Forces.
Dear "World Politics":
Please settle an argument between a friend and me. He says that being gassed is the worst way to go. I say that being gut shot with hot missile shrapnel in the blaring heat is the worst.
Who's right?
Thanks,
Marjorie
Please settle an argument between a friend and me. He says that being gassed is the worst way to go. I say that being gut shot with hot missile shrapnel in the blaring heat is the worst.
Who's right?
Thanks,
Marjorie
@Python
That threat doesn't make any sense. Hardly any US carriers overfly Russia. To get to Europe they fly over the Atlantic and for Asia they fly over the Pacific.
@Alpe73
It depends on the gas, how much, and how the gut shrapnell has affected the body. VX is supposedly not that bad to die from. Sarin and chlorine not so much.
If the choice is VX or gut shrapnel etc. I'm going VX. If it's Sarin or Chlorine I'm gonna go for the gut shrapnel in the sun.
That threat doesn't make any sense. Hardly any US carriers overfly Russia. To get to Europe they fly over the Atlantic and for Asia they fly over the Pacific.
@Alpe73
It depends on the gas, how much, and how the gut shrapnell has affected the body. VX is supposedly not that bad to die from. Sarin and chlorine not so much.
If the choice is VX or gut shrapnel etc. I'm going VX. If it's Sarin or Chlorine I'm gonna go for the gut shrapnel in the sun.
torebear, what exactly are you talking about. ?.all i said was what was in the media re the rus considerations for their retaliation response. naturally, some airlines depending on where they are flying from/to currently use the russian airspace. i have no specific data. i did read there is a bilateral agreement which i understand was up for a renewal some days ago. a threat of higher tariffs was about that. i didn't study the extent of the bilateral agreement, but there can be little doubt it made several american airliners very nervous when the threat was issued and later suspended...they are also talking about other retaliatory moves, which they say will hurt the us.
the point is simply that if the american almost daily declarations of bombastic sanctions were aimed to make vlad plea for mercy, it's not happening. quite opposite, they are talking of counter sanctions which may or may not be hurtful. we dont know what exactly they mean, though, i doubt little their economy will be hurt more by american sanctions. i also learned long ago bringing up 2 kids, if you overdo the stick part, which the us seems obsessed wrt to their sanctions effect, the stick just seizes to be effective...
the point is simply that if the american almost daily declarations of bombastic sanctions were aimed to make vlad plea for mercy, it's not happening. quite opposite, they are talking of counter sanctions which may or may not be hurtful. we dont know what exactly they mean, though, i doubt little their economy will be hurt more by american sanctions. i also learned long ago bringing up 2 kids, if you overdo the stick part, which the us seems obsessed wrt to their sanctions effect, the stick just seizes to be effective...
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Well trump cares about one and not the other..making the world safe for the butcher of damascus.
Alpe73 said:
Well trump cares about one and not the other..making the world safe for the butcher of damascus.
The point is there are hardly any. A few routes to and from China might need a detour, but they are mostly used by chinese carriers anyway.
Had it been European or Asian carriers going to each other it would be a huge deal. But for the US it's not an issue at all. In fact I think the Russians might be more hurt by this due to their needs for overflight when going to South/Central America.
From my understanding, the reason the UN rep was left with egg on her face was because Trump and co changed their minds due to a lack of reaction from the Russians. As in they were expecting a reaction, but got none so they put the sanctions back in the drawer. Then it's of course all the Trump + Putin = .
I doubt the Russians could do anything sanctions wise against the US that would hurt the US more than Russia would be hurt by those sanctions.
The sanctions on the oligarchs might be starting to have some effect, and that could alter Putins calculations.
I would say Putin needs more stick, since the carrots didn't work.
Had it been European or Asian carriers going to each other it would be a huge deal. But for the US it's not an issue at all. In fact I think the Russians might be more hurt by this due to their needs for overflight when going to South/Central America.
From my understanding, the reason the UN rep was left with egg on her face was because Trump and co changed their minds due to a lack of reaction from the Russians. As in they were expecting a reaction, but got none so they put the sanctions back in the drawer. Then it's of course all the Trump + Putin =
.I doubt the Russians could do anything sanctions wise against the US that would hurt the US more than Russia would be hurt by those sanctions.
The sanctions on the oligarchs might be starting to have some effect, and that could alter Putins calculations.
I would say Putin needs more stick, since the carrots didn't work.
Anatomy of a russian propaganda campaign.
How and why the white helmets have become the boogey man to consumers of Russian propaganda.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/vanessa-beeley-syria-white-helmets_uk_5ad9b6cae4b03c426dad48a9
How and why the white helmets have become the boogey man to consumers of Russian propaganda.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/vanessa-beeley-syria-white-helmets_uk_5ad9b6cae4b03c426dad48a9
iran has promised a harsh and surprising response to the us scrapping the nuclear deal, which seems a given having in mind the new hawks in the trump band...
i wonder what that implies since the harshest steps - like leaving the non-proliferation treaty - would likely get iran in hot water with europe, which currently supports the deal. i personally think that macron may get trump to agree to another 3 months extension, but it matters little at this point since i doubt iran is going to sit by depending on the trump whim or good will. i also cant see at this point how trump can bring the pressure short of an outright attack on the nuclear facilities that would reverse iran even in the slightest.
i see it as a lose-lose for america or for the west in general if europe prostitutes itself once again. in fact, i cant see any winners if the deal collapses, except hoping that europe get some balls and accelerate its sovereignty seeing another fiasco attaching itself to the us foreign policy.
cant see how china or russia can benefit from a nuclear-armed iran, but it is also clear they arent going to do american bidding while having been waged a trade war against or being under the sanctions.
i wonder what that implies since the harshest steps - like leaving the non-proliferation treaty - would likely get iran in hot water with europe, which currently supports the deal. i personally think that macron may get trump to agree to another 3 months extension, but it matters little at this point since i doubt iran is going to sit by depending on the trump whim or good will. i also cant see at this point how trump can bring the pressure short of an outright attack on the nuclear facilities that would reverse iran even in the slightest.
i see it as a lose-lose for america or for the west in general if europe prostitutes itself once again. in fact, i cant see any winners if the deal collapses, except hoping that europe get some balls and accelerate its sovereignty seeing another fiasco attaching itself to the us foreign policy.
cant see how china or russia can benefit from a nuclear-armed iran, but it is also clear they arent going to do american bidding while having been waged a trade war against or being under the sanctions.
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Bolton wants donnie to jump off the Iran Nuke deal..so Iran can start enrichment again, so he can convince donnie to hit Iran militarily..won't be the cake walk the one in Iraq was(either GW 1 or 2) but a whole different gig with Iran.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/26/opinion/to-stop-irans-bomb-bomb-iran.html
Bolton is a fool is a fool's administration..He STILL believes WMD's were in Iraq..he's trump's Goring w/a mustache.
python said:
Bolton wants donnie to jump off the Iran Nuke deal..so Iran can start enrichment again, so he can convince donnie to hit Iran militarily..won't be the cake walk the one in Iraq was(either GW 1 or 2) but a whole different gig with Iran.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/26/opinion/to-stop-irans-bomb-bomb-iran.html
Bolton is a fool is a fool's administration..He STILL believes WMD's were in Iraq..he's trump's Goring w/a mustache.
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I have not paid any attention whatsoever to this thread, so I may be missing something here.
The former is most definitely the worst way to go. That takes some time, bro.
I've never been shot, but I assume the experience would cause sensory overload and make you pass out almost immediately.
p.s. Neither comes even close to being the worst. Think sharks.
Think Grizzly bears. You know what I mean? Getting eaten by either would cause a world of hurt.
Alpe73 said:
I have not paid any attention whatsoever to this thread, so I may be missing something here.
The former is most definitely the worst way to go. That takes some time, bro.
I've never been shot, but I assume the experience would cause sensory overload and make you pass out almost immediately.
p.s. Neither comes even close to being the worst. Think sharks.
Think Grizzly bears. You know what I mean? Getting eaten by either would cause a world of hurt.
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I'm hoping fool+fool=wise
Or fool + fool + actual power = realization of consequences.
And with all this hope, I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Mueller will save the day.
Bustedknuckle said:
I'm hoping fool+fool=wise
Or fool + fool + actual power = realization of consequences.
And with all this hope, I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Mueller will save the day.
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What a hottie!
Anyway I'm impressed with the Boy and his father speaking so clearly about the event. The pressure to tell the right story must have been a lot for the boy to handle so soon after having suffered a chemical weapons attack. Nice that they were interviewed in a safe environment at the Syrian Arab Armies officer club. It shows clearly how likely it is for them to tell any other version than the government line. Hopefully the boy and family will remain safe.
https://theintercept.com/2018/04/23/russian-tv-interview-syrian-boy-secretly-conducted-army-facility/
BullsFan22 said:
What a hottie!
Anyway I'm impressed with the Boy and his father speaking so clearly about the event. The pressure to tell the right story must have been a lot for the boy to handle so soon after having suffered a chemical weapons attack. Nice that they were interviewed in a safe environment at the Syrian Arab Armies officer club. It shows clearly how likely it is for them to tell any other version than the government line. Hopefully the boy and family will remain safe.
https://theintercept.com/2018/04/23/russian-tv-interview-syrian-boy-secretly-conducted-army-facility/
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